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43. Not if it's like NAFTA was

Wed Jun 24, 2015, 10:11 AM

Jun 2015

Median wages and incomes went up; on the whole, textile jobs lost to Mexico were replaced with higher paying jobs in the services sector. My guess is the result will be something largely similar.

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A simple question on the TPP [View all] edhopper Jun 2015 OP

What a fantastic question. Do you think anyone in the media will ask it of the President? guillaumeb Jun 2015 #1

I don't think anyone in the media edhopper Jun 2015 #2

Maybe if they want a new job or career? cascadiance Jun 2015 #4

It is additional training for new jobs. yallerdawg Jun 2015 #3

what happened to the auto plant he worked at for 30 years newfie11 Jun 2015 #7

It's edhopper Jun 2015 #8

Yeah but it doesn't do any good! Nt newfie11 Jun 2015 #10

Do you recall Americans stopped buying American cars? yallerdawg Jun 2015 #11

Many America jobs when out of this country newfie11 Jun 2015 #15

The machinist has a new, better paying job. yallerdawg Jun 2015 #18

I'd like to see the employment stats on all the people laid off with Michael Skittles Jun 2015 #19

Well I guess time will tell newfie11 Jun 2015 #21

Sounds like crap regurgitated from a US Chamber of Commerce talking points sheet. brentspeak Jun 2015 #41

You mean just make up shit... yallerdawg Jun 2015 #47

"Few unions" brentspeak Jun 2015 #56

I'm stating a fact. yallerdawg Jun 2015 #58

"I am a strong union advocate." brentspeak Jun 2015 #60

So it is all right to condemn the Democratic president we have? yallerdawg Jun 2015 #61

The really really fantastic part of the TAA is that IT TAKES MONEY OUT OF MEDICARE. djean111 Jun 2015 #5

The Democrats can vote it down. yallerdawg Jun 2015 #6

We can't take money from the MIC newfie11 Jun 2015 #9

That was my opposition to it Recursion Jun 2015 #28

There will always be displaced workers in these kinds of deals. DCBob Jun 2015 #12

I would like to know how much it's going to take from Medicare newfie11 Jun 2015 #16

people here edhopper Jun 2015 #13

Sure why not? NAFTA proved these agreements are wonderful and beneficial. nc4bo Jun 2015 #14

Name a metric by which workers are worse off today than 1993 Recursion Jun 2015 #26

You think edhopper Jun 2015 #33

Notice wages rose more after NAFTA than before Recursion Jun 2015 #35

You are praising edhopper Jun 2015 #36

Its much better than the 0% increase the 20 years previous Recursion Jun 2015 #37

Let's go back edhopper Jun 2015 #38

The specific jobs were gone anyways Recursion Jun 2015 #39

If I remember correctly, our textile industries were decimated as were our steel industries nc4bo Jun 2015 #51

I am on your side edhopper Jun 2015 #52

Sorry ed.....I think I replied in the wrong subthread......ugh nc4bo Jun 2015 #53

I have the same problem edhopper Jun 2015 #54

Apparently some do newfie11 Jun 2015 #17

the TPP pimps / swooners do Skittles Jun 2015 #20

Hahahahahahahahahaha newfie11 Jun 2015 #23

Yes. I'd definitely predict that Recursion Jun 2015 #25

Correlation is not causation edhopper Jun 2015 #27

The job destroying tech boom? Recursion Jun 2015 #29

Or edhopper Jun 2015 #34

Correlation provides some evidence of causation but is not proof by itself. Correlation does even pampango Jun 2015 #40

That isn't an echo. yallerdawg Jun 2015 #31

There is no trade policy - from free trade to Smoot-Hawley - in which an effective TAA is not needed pampango Jun 2015 #22

Because some jobs will be created and others destroyed Recursion Jun 2015 #24

Sure. brentspeak Jun 2015 #42

Not if it's like NAFTA was Recursion Jun 2015 #43

Yes, I've read your bull$hit on these forums brentspeak Jun 2015 #44

You should read those, since they agree with me Recursion Jun 2015 #45

Funny, none of those studies seem to "agree" with you brentspeak Jun 2015 #46

Because I've read their data tables and you clearly haven't Recursion Jun 2015 #49

Your posts keep getting more and more surreal brentspeak Jun 2015 #55

Inequality. QED. re: "Name a metric..." nt Romulox Jun 2015 #63

Not all trade is bad DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #30

Opposing the TPP edhopper Jun 2015 #32

LOL. The US has massive agricultural subsidies for rice growers. You don't know much Romulox Jun 2015 #48

Non sequitur DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #50

Looks like you got "owned" by a simple fact brentspeak Jun 2015 #57

This message was self-deleted by its author DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #59

Nobody "owns" me in irl or on the "internets" DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #62

LOL! nt Romulox Jun 2015 #64

Back at ya, pal. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #65

I just like how you aren't letting facts slow you down. nt Romulox Jun 2015 #66

What facts? nt DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #67

That's the spirit! nt Romulox Jun 2015 #68

I actually pity a person who needs to get on the internet and insult and patronize people. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #69

LOL. nt Romulox Jun 2015 #70

What satisfaction do you get by insulting people from the anonymity of an internet connection? DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #71

Your point about free trade in rice was simply misinformed. Pointing that out isn't an insult. Romulox Jun 2015 #72

I never suggested there was free trade in rice, bananas, or anything... DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #73