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Showing Original Post only (View all)Gonna drive by a reservation on your way to tell folks how racist the Confederate flag is? [View all]
We stand atop the bones of 50-80 million people, whose property and lives were stolen by this people and government. The house you are in may well stand atop the farm that used to support a now murdered families village. You may be here because their bodies were dug up as our forefathers brought cannibalism to these shores.
Seriously going to pretend your flag is better than another?
Sure, the South needs to finally surrender, and that flag needs to come down. But perhaps you, dear reader, need to climb down off of your high horse of self-righteousness as well.
"Slaughter of horses leaves lasting mark"
What many people consider one of the most brutal, inexplicable and traumatic acts in the mid-1800s war between the U.S. government and Native Americans of the Inland Northwest wasnt about the loss of human life. It had to do with horses.
On Sept. 8 and 9, 1858, approximately 800 horses belonging to tribes of the area were slaughtered by the soldiers of U.S. Army Col. George Wright along the banks of the Spokane River near what would become the border between Washington and Idaho
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Historians who argue that it was the cruelest and most needless of actions said that the horse slaughter was unnecessary because the end of the Indian wars was clearly in sight.
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Horse slaughter was an ugly business. According to an account of an officer present, the animals were taken to the banks of the river and shot one by one, young colts were knocked in the head and mares were heard crying for their foals. In addition, this: On the following day, to avoid the slow process of killing them separately, the companies were ordered to fire volleys into the corral.
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http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2009/oct/01/slaughter-of-horses-leaves-lasting-mark/
I know, I know, you can't hardly hear the kids and people crying as they died from the starvation this brought them. So much easier to sing the Star Spangled Banner when you can't hear the children you killed dying.
BUT - IF YOU ARE IN THE AREA IN JUNE...BIG ART PROJECT
http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2015/jun/19/mural-project-honors-tribes-slaughtered-horses/
...The exact number varies. The monument erected at the site references 800 killed animals. Some believe the number was closer to 900. Regardless, it was a brutal act that devastated area tribes.
Beginning Saturday, artist Ryan Feddersen will lead the community in creating a temporary mural to honor the horses and acknowledge the slaughters impact on local Indians.
Feddersen, who identifies as being of mixed race, is descended from the Okanagan and Arrow Lakes Indian bands and is a member of the Confederated Tribes of the Colville Reservation. Employing nine different horse stencils, public participation and liquid chalk paint (more durable than regular chalk, but still temporary), Feddersen aims to create an image of the horses galloping across the Spokane Tribal Gathering Place, the plaza at the top of Huntington Park next to Spokane City Hall.
While this project has ties to my indigenous heritage, I dont see that as a defining aspect of the piece, Feddersen said in an email interview. In this specific instance, the artwork is addressing an event that should impact people from all backgrounds, and it is equally valuable for any community member regardless of their racial or cultural identity to honor the horses in a way that pays respect to their life and to their role in the tribes livelihood.
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Spaces for 900 horses, people will be given chalk to color them in as they hear the story of the cruelty that we all profit from.
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Gonna drive by a reservation on your way to tell folks how racist the Confederate flag is? [View all]
jtuck004
Jun 2015
OP
America's south isn't hateful and racist like that damn flag is, it has hateful racist people
uponit7771
Jun 2015
#26
I didn't say that at all. I think the Stars & Bars is completely inappropriate in any context but a
Coventina
Jun 2015
#58
You know what? I don't live there, never have lived there, and have rarely visited.
Coventina
Jun 2015
#99
I was born and raised in South Arkansas. Around a lot of racists and red necks.
LiberalArkie
Jun 2015
#103
In his autobiography, Malcolm X stated he preferred southern racists to northern racists...
KansDem
Jun 2015
#176
I knew s lot of black people who made their money in the north especially Detroit and out in Califor
LiberalArkie
Jun 2015
#178
Just all the monuments and idols to the traitorous slave owning bastards. n/t
ncjustice80
Jun 2015
#136
I'm fine with taking them out of government or even public spaces and put into museums where they
Coventina
Jun 2015
#147
Well, then you should be outside protesting just about every military museum in existence.
Coventina
Jun 2015
#165
If you put all Confederate flags through the shredder, as you stated, that would be erasing history
Coventina
Jun 2015
#167
Well, again, I fully expect to see you protesting at the USS Arizona Memorial
Coventina
Jun 2015
#169
In point of fact, according to The Oxford Companion to American Military History...
malthaussen
Jun 2015
#14
The IWW insisted that people of color be allowed to join. More than a few left for the AF of L
jtuck004
Jun 2015
#91
Rushbo, the drug addict, predicted liberals would go after the American flag next.
randys1
Jun 2015
#4
I'm only a teeny-tiny bit English, but I have a couch cushion with a Union Jack on it.
Coventina
Jun 2015
#24
I used to feel like you, especially since I wasn't even born in this country but to an ex-pat dad.
Cleita
Jun 2015
#67
The last people actively fighting for the CSA were Native Americans, led by a Cherokee . . .
Journeyman
Jun 2015
#8
There is no doubt that the goal was genocide from the very beginning. That is clearly seen in what
jwirr
Jun 2015
#9
There is a Bernie Group. If you favor him, there is no sniping and a lot of good information. eom
Cleita
Jun 2015
#45
I thought that was Davey Crockett and they ate the potatoes and roots in the cellar
TheKentuckian
Jun 2015
#133
Yup, all kinds of foul deeds by our hero's (minus sleepy hollow, I guess)
TheKentuckian
Jun 2015
#179
the original inhabitants, plants and animals, must have hated when humans showed up. then
msongs
Jun 2015
#37
People are living on the land, have profited from the murder of those people. Today,
jtuck004
Jun 2015
#75
Yup, yup. Let's shove the flagstick in a pile of bones from people we murdered before we salute it.
jtuck004
Jun 2015
#87
I am good evidence for that. I lived there for about my first 50 years. Had to find some place
jtuck004
Jun 2015
#88
We've got to leave the Rebel Flag alone, because of the way we treated the Native Americans.
Rex
Jun 2015
#53
True, can't drive to the local gas station without seeing people eating bodyparts on the side of the
Rex
Jun 2015
#95
odd OP, odd timing - but not really, I guess. I've lost the plot around here recently
NRaleighLiberal
Jun 2015
#65
Uh, you realize the people already "went around with guns", and many of their victims died in the
jtuck004
Jun 2015
#117
We all live here after our ancestors murdered the people who lived here and took their homes
jtuck004
Jun 2015
#132
I like seeing the Nez Perce people a few years back wearing these Treaty of 1855 jackets,
brewens
Jun 2015
#149
"...my house payment started going to the tribe instead of the bank" - Now there is an interesting
jtuck004
Jun 2015
#150
You profited, as we all still do, from the violent acts of racism of others. Fortunately for you
jtuck004
Jun 2015
#69
I agree with them and I have native American blood on one side and holocaust survivor on the other
stevenleser
Jun 2015
#140
“Flags are bits of colored cloth that governments use first to shrink-wrap people’s minds
Tierra_y_Libertad
Jun 2015
#89
Do you blame Asians for the tens of millions of Europeans who died from the plagues?
ieoeja
Jun 2015
#124
According to the most recent genetic testing, disease wiped out most Native Americans
LittleBlue
Jun 2015
#127
Huh. wonder why the British wrote of giving them smallpox laden material and hoping it
jtuck004
Jun 2015
#146
Genetics don't lie. People do though, and they create things to support their stories. And sometimes
jtuck004
Jun 2015
#154
This is a ridiculous OP. The Confederacy can't be racist because of what the US did to Native
stevenleser
Jun 2015
#138
Where did you get the idea that calling the Confederate Flag racist means not caring
Ken Burch
Jun 2015
#141
Generally speaking people talk about what they care about. And in post after post after post
jtuck004
Jun 2015
#144
Kinda like the Chataqua. I think that is a great idea. It's how the wobblies used to
jtuck004
Jun 2015
#153
So, you got yours, fuck everyone else? Sure you are in the right place? Wait, you are. n/t
jtuck004
Jun 2015
#145
The current US flag is better than the Confederate Stars and Bars and the Nazi Germany flag
steve2470
Jun 2015
#157
The Stars and Stripes, unlike the Confederate flag, has never stood for slavery. n/t
pnwmom
Jun 2015
#181