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el_bryanto

(11,804 posts)
20. It would depend on how it was done
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 02:26 PM
Jun 2015

I am very upset at neo-confederates and the fact that history is often taught so as to make them seem partially in the right. I don't know what would have happened if Lincoln had survived; what I do know is we lurched from Johnsons mollycoddling of the south to the Republican congress's more firm stance to pretty much forgetting about the whole thing. In particular the fact that we didn't preserve Black Civil Rights in the South is one of our national cancers.

That said, a blanket change imposed by the federal government would cost a lot of political capital, and I'm not sure it would have the desired effect. Republicans are never going to support such a program, and the South, by and large, isn't going to either. My guess is that even many Liberal Southerners would resent that action. People largely remember History the way they want to remember it, unfortunately. If we are going to spend a lot of political capital fighting and uphill battle, I'd rather we threw our efforts into reforming our law enforcement mechanisms, weeding out the murderous racism that is going on right now.

Turning back to changing the names of schools and the like, the best approach, in my mind, would be to pick one particular Confederate officer who was active in the Klan following the Civil War or who was guilty of killing blacks during the war and underline what he did; and ask why we celebrate this person. That could lead to a teachable moment, where we could discuss how all of the Confederates were fighting for the right to own slaves (regardless of what they want to pretend the civil war was really about).

Bryant

I support removing their names from everything other than a brief historical randys1 Jun 2015 #1
How do you think this should be accomplished? nt el_bryanto Jun 2015 #4
Any entity which receives money from the Federal government can be forced randys1 Jun 2015 #6
That's true - if it's part of the federal highway system el_bryanto Jun 2015 #8
I am almost as mad when I see something named after that complete disaster, Reagan randys1 Jun 2015 #9
Why would you be "in the middle" on this issue? Seems pretty straight forward to me randys1 Jun 2015 #10
It would depend on how it was done el_bryanto Jun 2015 #20
How about Nathan Bedford Forrest? DashOneBravo Jun 2015 #24
Withhold Federal funding. Many states in the South depend on the Feds for highway funds. ncjustice80 Jun 2015 #30
Depends who we're talking about.... TreasonousBastard Jun 2015 #2
Robert E Lee edhopper Jun 2015 #3
Perhaps, but then we're stuck at... TreasonousBastard Jun 2015 #13
Do you think edhopper Jun 2015 #16
Most post war era were put up as a protest against civil rights and have nothing to do with the war Johonny Jun 2015 #21
That is true edhopper Jun 2015 #22
Not in the least, but... TreasonousBastard Jun 2015 #32
Worst part of his life. The only part that matters. n/t ncjustice80 Jun 2015 #31
He didn't start the war. TreasonousBastard Jun 2015 #33
He was a general for the South though. ncjustice80 Jun 2015 #38
If the alternative is naming something else after St. Reagan, it's a tough call. nt Buns_of_Fire Jun 2015 #5
I'm neutral. This is no more offensive to me than naming streets and cities after saints. I don't virgogal Jun 2015 #7
Some DashOneBravo Jun 2015 #11
Nah! Street names are ways to locate things. immoderate Jun 2015 #12
Total Federal action. GoneOffShore Jun 2015 #14
Sure, I guess Recursion Jun 2015 #15
The confederacy was an armed violent rebellion against underthematrix Jun 2015 #17
What about all the stuff named after an Exalted Cyclops in the Ku Klux Klan? Nye Bevan Jun 2015 #18
How about U.S. military installations named after Confederate military leaders? Adrahil Jun 2015 #19
Activists in NOLA have dealt with the existence of Jefferson Davis Parkway KamaAina Jun 2015 #23
I'm in the middle here. LuvNewcastle Jun 2015 #25
Yes, unless there is a good historic significance and I'm also in favor of renaming everything that Cleita Jun 2015 #26
No. deathrind Jun 2015 #27
There's little outrage about most of them. Igel Jun 2015 #28
This gets ridiculous. former9thward Jun 2015 #29
The song wasn't completely sympathetic to the Confederate cause Major Nikon Jun 2015 #34
I guess you don't know the lyrics. former9thward Jun 2015 #35
You stole my line! Major Nikon Jun 2015 #36
Why is there a "Jefferson Davis Memorial Hiway" ... Bigmack Jun 2015 #37
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