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86. Fact: Summers and Geithner were two of the principal arsonists

Wed Jun 24, 2015, 04:40 PM

Jun 2015

of the Great Wall Street Fire/Meltdown. Putting arsonists in charge of the fire department while the country was burning down was flat-out fucking insanity and told everyone in no uncertain terms it was the banks, and not the people, who would be saved. Read Nomi Prins' "All the Presidents' Bankers." The facts are there and they are not subject to disagreement or contradiction.

In 2008 I was an early Obama supporter. The endorsements of Ted and Caroline Kennedy were enough to sway me from undecided-but-not-for-HRC. I voted for Obama with great enthusiasm and, yes, hope. Four years later the best reason I could come up with for voting for him again was that he was not Mitt Romney. I have been voting for Democrats for president since 1976 with only one exception - John Anderson in 1980. I knew Carter would win my state and lose the election so I felt free to vote my conscience.

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Had enough yet? [View all] MannyGoldstein Jun 2015 OP

I'm hoping Wyden gets a good challenger in the form of Congressman Defazio. I'd love to neverforget Jun 2015 #1

The DSCC will protect Wyden. merrily Jun 2015 #12

Of course they will. There will be no challenger against Wyden. neverforget Jun 2015 #17

If there were a challenger, the DSCC would still protect Wyden. merrily Jun 2015 #18

The Workers in Oregon will protect Wyden too. bvar22 Jun 2015 #87

It's the voters job to protect Wyden, if they feel he has been good for them in whatever ways are merrily Jun 2015 #91

Screw the DSCC! floriduck Jun 2015 #95

I used to have so much respect for Wyden, he often was a lone voice in Congress against the Bush sabrina 1 Jun 2015 #41

They aren't going to give up power without a fight. haikugal Jun 2015 #2

Not at all! Maedhros Jun 2015 #3

HRC : "Outsourcing will continue..." antigop Jun 2015 #5

One of her major donors in 2008 was Tata. Fuddnik Jun 2015 #9

Hillary and Tata antigop Jun 2015 #27

How dare you bash HRC by bringing up things she has said hifiguy Jun 2015 #59

but, but, but...she's our CHAMPION!!! --- NOT! nt antigop Jun 2015 #61

Sad, isn't it? That if Bernie had not decided to run, our choices would be two corporate funded sabrina 1 Jun 2015 #42

OK it's time to ask this question, because I haven't figured out the answer... Volaris Jun 2015 #123

Please see this link... antigop Jun 2015 #130

It isn't "the better of two evils". They are just the same. delrem Jun 2015 #6

+++: You've said it perfectly. The media and the candidates are part of the same money system. erronis Jun 2015 #70

FASCIST TRACK Buy-Partisan TPP benefits multinational corps, the CEO Parties & the Investor Class, appalachiablue Jun 2015 #124

If "we" elect Hillary MissDeeds Jun 2015 #37

I'm with you. Not holding my nose and voting because "X is better than a Republican!" ladyVet Jun 2015 #99

Same here, voted green for pres in 2012 rwsanders Jun 2015 #108

+++ swilton Jun 2015 #114

A good campaign slogan would be hifiguy Jun 2015 #58

This is mine: Maedhros Jun 2015 #64

LOL. Unless we push Bernie to the nomination, this will be our choice hifiguy Jun 2015 #65

More then enough..... daleanime Jun 2015 #4

Nikki Haley's speech was like a HS student council address. Nothing of any depth or sincerity was appalachiablue Jun 2015 #7

They have been at war with us since Jan 20, 2009. n/t PowerToThePeople Jun 2015 #8

Lol. No one who thinks our country took a turn for the worse geek tragedy Jun 2015 #10

I did not say it that PowerToThePeople Jun 2015 #14

Nailed it. zeemike Jun 2015 #19

Lol. Very funny. Thanks for proving my point. geek tragedy Jun 2015 #20

I'm not laughing. 840high Jun 2015 #36

The point is that Obama carried on many of Bush's policies. But you seem to be ok with rhett o rick Jun 2015 #120

Geek Tragedy often reads what Geek Tragedy wants to read MannyGoldstein Jun 2015 #21

Lol. Still bitter about having your bogus claim about Obama forcing children to go hungry geek tragedy Jun 2015 #25

LOL. MannyGoldstein Jun 2015 #28

So, no, you're not willing to defend that claim. geek tragedy Jun 2015 #30

LOL! MannyGoldstein Jun 2015 #32

Good night to you as well. geek tragedy Jun 2015 #34

Was that your alert that went down 6-1? MannyGoldstein Jun 2015 #40

No. Sorry. nt geek tragedy Jun 2015 #47

I doubt you will ever understand but our regrets aren't that McCain and Palin lost, A Simple Game Jun 2015 #71

I understand the purist arguments quite well. People who have never won elected office geek tragedy Jun 2015 #72

Yes it is worth as much as we pay to read it. A Simple Game Jun 2015 #75

It's unclear, are you complaining about Net Neutrality or are you saying geek tragedy Jun 2015 #76

It's a tragedy PowerToThePeople Jun 2015 #33

everything is HORRIBLE LOL snooper2 Jun 2015 #53

Post of the day so far! Thanks redstateblues Jun 2015 #93

The last free place on earth... Kalidurga Jun 2015 #128

Boom. hifiguy Jun 2015 #60

No, we just disagree with the crowd who thinks he's no better than Bush. geek tragedy Jun 2015 #80

Fact: Summers and Geithner were two of the principal arsonists hifiguy Jun 2015 #86

No, that is a claim and an opinion, not unlike those who write "Fact: Fannie and Freddie geek tragedy Jun 2015 #88

You desperately, and I do mean DESPERATELY hifiguy Jun 2015 #90

Well said. Summers and Rubin and Greenspan and Ayn Rand who was Greenspan's idol hovering sabrina 1 Jun 2015 #102

The history is out there and it is as plain as a pikestaff. hifiguy Jun 2015 #105

Knowledge is power. The people are being informed of just how bad their government is and this sabrina 1 Jun 2015 #106

Bernie and O'Malley have just been handed a giant club. hifiguy Jun 2015 #111

Like I have said before. WHEN CRABS ROAR Jun 2015 #121

+10000000 nashville_brook Jun 2015 #118

Fights against insiders with duplicitous motives are way dirtier and divisive. GoneFishin Jun 2015 #107

where did you see that? What did happen was that no Wall St crook was held accountable. No war sabrina 1 Jun 2015 #44

Bueller? Bueller? hifiguy Jun 2015 #62

Lol, love that movie! sabrina 1 Jun 2015 #63

Good points, all. Enthusiast Jun 2015 #74

+1. nm DirtyHippyBastard Jun 2015 #109

You got crumbs? Mnpaul Jun 2015 #110

I think it began with the bailout of the banks that crashed the economy Autumn Jun 2015 #52

A very good analogy. nt hifiguy Jun 2015 #92

and the bailout of the banks came from repeal of glass steagall act HFRN Jun 2015 #117

Exactly. Lobbied for hard by both Greenspan and the Clinton White House. merrily Jun 2015 #127

Why is Nikki Haley the hero for adopting the position of virtually every Democrat geek tragedy Jun 2015 #11

Maybe because, as it is her state, she might actually get it taken down, despite the merrily Jun 2015 #22

Still not seeing the heroism. More like bowing to the inevitable. nt geek tragedy Jun 2015 #23

Exactly. MannyGoldstein Jun 2015 #29

Wal-Mart is pulling the flag from its shelves. geek tragedy Jun 2015 #31

Power-mooned. I love it. Nt. Juicy_Bellows Jun 2015 #13

Neat metaphor, but I don't love the visual. merrily Jun 2015 #39

I'm trying to imagine if I have ever Aerows Jun 2015 #77

Being mooned by an emote is cute. Being mooned by most humans meh. merrily Jun 2015 #78

I know Aerows Jun 2015 #79

Perhaps as a function of what kind of month it has been, I am not sure merrily Jun 2015 #83

Good point Aerows Jun 2015 #85

Wake Up, Oregon! McKim Jun 2015 #15

Please see one of my other posts on this thread as to primarying Democratic incumbent Senators. merrily Jun 2015 #24

DSCC is now the Koch Bros. aspirant Jun 2015 #46

It doesn't smell a lot like democracy, does it? merrily Jun 2015 #81

Our local Progressive Democrats of America group and one of our local unions Le Taz Hot Jun 2015 #16

I called Feinstein's office this morning dreamnightwind Jun 2015 #26

I sure hope Kamala is elected. 2banon Jun 2015 #43

Fight in the voting booth. Get 840high Jun 2015 #35

Exactly MissDeeds Jun 2015 #38

"this week's hero is a Republican ... Nikki Haley" joshcryer Jun 2015 #45

Her decision didn't come from a place of integrity; it came from wanting to be re-elected. Avalux Jun 2015 #67

Yep, she's walking on eggshells. joshcryer Jun 2015 #98

She's term-limited. She can't run again until she sits one out. No courage required. hatrack Jun 2015 #125

You should write a letter to Ta-Nehisi Cotes MannyGoldstein Jun 2015 #69

I don't see him calling her a hero. joshcryer Jun 2015 #97

Who wrote the following: MannyGoldstein Jun 2015 #100

Context: credit over protestors or Romney joshcryer Jun 2015 #101

Your statement is context-less. MannyGoldstein Jun 2015 #103

Fess up about not understanding? joshcryer Jun 2015 #104

I'm afraid I am getting worn out. Just, a sad day. raouldukelives Jun 2015 #48

A lot of kids are truly pessimistic, verging on nihilistic. Igel Jun 2015 #49

Give one reason to be optimistic? PowerToThePeople Jun 2015 #51

Hint: When "a lot" of a generation is telling you the same thing jeff47 Jun 2015 #56

Partially true. But it's also true that the American Dream is dead for most Americans. MannyGoldstein Jun 2015 #68

Just about, Manny. Just about. MineralMan Jun 2015 #50

If we keep telling our kids they won't have a job when they graduate, they won't even look for one. kelliekat44 Jun 2015 #54

Yeah Bobbie Jo Jun 2015 #55

Sign me up, Manny. hifiguy Jun 2015 #57

A broken clock is right at least twice a day... Avalux Jun 2015 #66

K&R! This post should have hundreds of recommendations! Enthusiast Jun 2015 #73

Increasingly, and somewhat reluctantly, I am coming around to agreeing with Chris Hedges . . . markpkessinger Jun 2015 #82

I hesitated to rec this because I don't like the war word, even as metaphor. merrily Jun 2015 #84

I'm sorry for you, Manny leftofcool Jun 2015 #89

Don't feel *too* sorry. MannyGoldstein Jun 2015 #96

The floggings will continue until morale improves. Fuddnik Jun 2015 #94

Fuck the Dems. I will never vote for another DINO again. Katashi_itto Jun 2015 #112

Where do I sign up? swilton Jun 2015 #113

This whole thing is one big F U to the common US citizen from both parites. L0oniX Jun 2015 #115

Bottom line!! raindaddy Jun 2015 #119

... BeanMusical Jun 2015 #116

Thanks again, Manny vlakitti Jun 2015 #122

How many of those who supported the TSA are running this year? jwirr Jun 2015 #126

Take it back sooner rather than later, b/c what Democrats may do to SS and Medicare... WorseBeforeBetter Jun 2015 #129