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236. strong, princiipled debates on policy and principle are necessary and healthy

Wed Jun 24, 2015, 05:43 PM

Jun 2015

where things go very wrong very quickly is where people assume moral faults, character flaws, and vice are to blame for politicians and even other DUers taking an opposite position.

I do not see Clinton supporters as being a bunch of Joe Liebermans, and I suspect that most Clinton supporters do not see Sanders supporters as a bunch of Ralph Naders.

But, it doesn't take many fools to pee in the pool and befoul the water.

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For SHAME, Bernie would not approve! [View all] Cosmic Kitten Jun 2015 OP

Reminds me when the likes of Limbaugh admonish liberals for not being tolerant Luminous Animal Jun 2015 #1

It does seem reminiscent of RW talking points! Cosmic Kitten Jun 2015 #11

There you go again! Nitram Jun 2015 #59

Well said. I'm casting my vote for a president, not a dad. K&R Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2015 #2

+1 Exactly! Cosmic Kitten Jun 2015 #13

What about a mom? Rosa Luxemburg Jun 2015 #138

Not a mom either. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2015 #202

the problem is that some people whose only real agenda is trashing Clinton, Obama, etc geek tragedy Jun 2015 #3

You should check out the Bernie Sanders supporters group, We don't Autumn Jun 2015 #6

Damned right we do not allow people to piss and moan about how awful Hillary supporters are hootinholler Jun 2015 #17

There are no posters in our group that Autumn Jun 2015 #70

To be fair Aerows Jun 2015 #195

This is nice and you are right nobody is perfect. I tend to avoid that place but Autumn Jun 2015 #221

Of coure you don't like Hillary supporters there Sheepshank Jun 2015 #119

You were blocked because members complained about your post. Autumn Jun 2015 #121

Nope...I didn't use any emoticons, and missing an email was pretty convenient then. Sheepshank Jun 2015 #133

A lot of message flew over that thread. Autumn Jun 2015 #147

I followed the attached instructions to send you a message if there was a concern or question Sheepshank Jun 2015 #161

I told you why I blocked you, so now you know. If it had bothered you enough Autumn Jun 2015 #170

your reason for the blocking was all made up shit Sheepshank Jun 2015 #175

Wow Bobbie Jo Jun 2015 #227

there wasn't even an emoticon, for snarks sake.....that's what so asinine n/t Sheepshank Jun 2015 #231

You articulated the issue perfectly. MADem Jun 2015 #7

And you added to it perfectly. brer cat Jun 2015 #16

I sense aspirant Jun 2015 #22

Wait, what? Not all Hillary "supporters" are earnest? Cosmic Kitten Jun 2015 #32

I pledge to back Bernie Sanders until the bitter end. donnasgirl Jun 2015 #40

It doesn't have tobe either kenfrequed Jun 2015 #84

That may very well be--I won't argue the point, but this thread isn't about her... MADem Jun 2015 #75

I'm sure you support fair and balanced aspirant Jun 2015 #98

Are you insinuating I am a Fox News viewer? MADem Jun 2015 #149

Why would your thoughts go directly to Fox News? aspirant Jun 2015 #167

It's not "telling" at all--you used their CATCHPHRASE. And directed it at me. MADem Jun 2015 #183

You forgot my lack of quotation marks aspirant Jun 2015 #214

Since when do people here invariably use them? Punctuation is often overlooked by MADem Jun 2015 #218

Well aren't you the little charmer with the dog whistle. Hekate Jun 2015 #188

No dog whistles here, maybe over there. aspirant Jun 2015 #215

Nah that is not the problem nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #8

Well, no, I don't think Clinton is great, I could rattle off a long list of concerns geek tragedy Jun 2015 #12

"long list of concerns aspirant Jun 2015 #28

they're probably the same concerns, actually. geek tragedy Jun 2015 #30

Now that is a good point. hifiguy Jun 2015 #139

50 years ago I will give nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #33

"DC cannot find it's way out of a wet paper bag" Aerows Jun 2015 #177

Who,, pray tell, is going to be the "open" antisemite? MADem Jun 2015 #80

Should I post the videos nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #94

Why don't you post the "anti-semite" videos? Oh wait...you made that up. MADem Jun 2015 #99

I wrote racist videos nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #105

You sure did--and those have nothing to do with the topic at hand, yet there you were, MADem Jun 2015 #122

As I said, once it becomes way nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #128

I don't care what you do, or when you are 'gone.' You've made some heinous accusations, here. MADem Jun 2015 #140

You are the one trying to tell me what nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #144

No, I'm not. STOP changing the subject, and either prove your nasty accusation, or slink. nt MADem Jun 2015 #153

Not changing nothing nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #155

This isn't about ME. It's about you, accusing DUers of being anti-semitic. nt MADem Jun 2015 #159

Some are nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #162

Prove it. MADem Jun 2015 #165

I can what you are doing is white 'splaining though nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #169

This is not about ME--it's about YOU and your unsupported, vicious and disruptive MADem Jun 2015 #173

Not desperate nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #189

Can't prove your accusation, so it's "slink" then. nt MADem Jun 2015 #196

I told you where to go look nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #206

No, you didn't. Or are your links invisible? MADem Jun 2015 #207

Yes I am nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #209

You're completely changing the subject....and I am noticing it and pointing it out. MADem Jun 2015 #216

I have stuck to the same subject nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #220

You haven't proved the charge you made, and you're tossing out unrelated links and associations, MADem Jun 2015 #225

And with that keep pretending it does not exist among democrats nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #212

That's not what you said, though. You accused DUers of being anti-semitic, and I noticed. MADem Jun 2015 #219

Nadin, I have no clue what you are talking about, but reading through this subthread to the end... Hekate Jun 2015 #194

I am not being strange, I am being quite upfront nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #203

Oh and should i link to the whisper nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #111

You are making accusations of anti-semitism by DUers. That's a rude thing to do. MADem Jun 2015 #112

It is my view and of others nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #116

It's your view that some DUers are anti-semites and they post anti-semitic things here supporting MADem Jun 2015 #136

Yes, some folks are antisemitic nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #142

It's obviously NOT "far from your concern." You were sufficiently "concerned" to accuse DUers of MADem Jun 2015 #158

Yes. Some are nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #160

PROVE the accusations you made against DUers. MADem Jun 2015 #166

Oh geez..."the hate" Cosmic Kitten Jun 2015 #15

Why would Team Hillary listen to me? geek tragedy Jun 2015 #20

To make your record straight and balanced. aspirant Jun 2015 #29

I don't have a 'record' I'm a nobody, anonymous poster on the Internet nt geek tragedy Jun 2015 #31

So we cease in referring to you as Geek Tradegy. new name Nobody? aspirant Jun 2015 #81

I've been called much worse nt geek tragedy Jun 2015 #82

First it was "fair and balanced" and now it's "straight and balanced." What's going on here? Hekate Jun 2015 #197

His own words, "I am a nobody" and I even asked for clarification aspirant Jun 2015 #217

You don't have to convince "Team Hillary" Cosmic Kitten Jun 2015 #38

+1 treestar Jun 2015 #66

Are you saying Bernie supporters are motivated by hate? Cosmic Kitten Jun 2015 #68

Yep. I am going to link to this post regularly. nt stevenleser Jun 2015 #69

Any chance you could K&R when you do linky? Cosmic Kitten Jun 2015 #77

Oh geek knows I approve of her post. Then again, she doesn't need the validation. nt stevenleser Jun 2015 #102

Will you also refer to it on your job? aspirant Jun 2015 #92

Which job is that? nt stevenleser Jun 2015 #101

Talking head on Fox News?? Cosmic Kitten Jun 2015 #103

That is not my job. I'm a guest when I appear. nt stevenleser Jun 2015 #108

Do you get paid for appearances? aspirant Jun 2015 #127

No. Guests are not paid. nt stevenleser Jun 2015 #129

Then why appear on RW propaganda? aspirant Jun 2015 #178

LOL! Rex Jun 2015 #179

LOL! Except, Bernie does too! Oops! stevenleser Jun 2015 #244

That is the big mystery isn't it. Enthusiast Jun 2015 #239

Ask the guy whose picture you have as your icon stevenleser Jun 2015 #242

Ask Bernie, Greenwald, et al. Then get back to me. Nt stevenleser Jun 2015 #241

Really? NO compensation? Cosmic Kitten Jun 2015 #141

No guest on any news channel gets paid. This is not new. stevenleser Jun 2015 #145

I always thought that was an unfair barb that is routinely thrown against you. MADem Jun 2015 #171

OH, aspirant Jun 2015 #187

Leser is not getting paid. Kucinich IS. Distinction AND a difference. MADem Jun 2015 #199

So others appear out of the goodness of their heart aspirant Jun 2015 #222

Kucinich signed a multi-year contract to play the "Colmes" character on the soap opera that is MADem Jun 2015 #224

Yes, like Bernie, and Greenwald. Attack them for it. Nt stevenleser Jun 2015 #246

Yeah, it's petty, and trite at this point. Folks only do it when they have nothing else stevenleser Jun 2015 #245

That's accurate--I guess it feels better than stomping a foot, pouting and saying MADem Jun 2015 #248

petty little implication Sheepshank Jun 2015 #130

Chill, Bro. It's just the interweb, not reality. Cosmic Kitten Jun 2015 #143

It's the usual handful of swarmers. Rex Jun 2015 #181

Yep, obviously, since 9 out of 10 DUers support Bernie Cosmic Kitten Jun 2015 #201

And it is driving them cray cray! Rex Jun 2015 #204

Who also appears as a guest on Fox, by the way. Nt stevenleser Jun 2015 #243

Would it be annoying aspirant Jun 2015 #190

i have no idea what you are going on about Sheepshank Jun 2015 #229

That's ok, the person to whom you're responding has no point. stevenleser Jun 2015 #247

Well said. FSogol Jun 2015 #71

+1 uponit7771 Jun 2015 #152

Spot on, geek tragedy. Hekate Jun 2015 #185

Which spot is on aspirant Jun 2015 #223

You're outta this thread, so Ciao Hekate Jun 2015 #226

I think it's natural... rbnyc Jun 2015 #228

the person who got banned for calling Hillary the c-word was a host of the Bernie geek tragedy Jun 2015 #232

Thanks... rbnyc Jun 2015 #235

strong, princiipled debates on policy and principle are necessary and healthy geek tragedy Jun 2015 #236

yes... rbnyc Jun 2015 #238

It's becoming idiotic, the shamers really need a new gig or they should Autumn Jun 2015 #4

Ain't that just the whole truth of it. n/t Sheepshank Jun 2015 #5

Yes it is just the whole truth of it. Autumn Jun 2015 #10

Hmmm hootinholler Jun 2015 #23

and a truthful scent aspirant Jun 2015 #36

you mean like the following back and forth down thread? Sheepshank Jun 2015 #156

I'm not gonna look em up but if those posts bother you, you should alert on them.n/t Autumn Jun 2015 #163

alrighty then Sheepshank Jun 2015 #174

Look it is the usual handful of 'people' poo poo ing in this thread! Rex Jun 2015 #184

Baiting, goading, poking... Hekate Jun 2015 #211

and has been busy throughout this thread. Sheepshank Jun 2015 #230

And brag about it off site. Puglover Jun 2015 #237

Indeed! Cosmic Kitten Jun 2015 #19

Well if 2008 is any indication Autumn Jun 2015 #26

Bingo! Cosmic Kitten Jun 2015 #39

Some people just come here to fight. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #9

You seem to post A LOT about raising fists? Cosmic Kitten Jun 2015 #21

No...Because I subscribe to Malcolm X's axiom DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #46

Who is putting their "hands" on you here? Cosmic Kitten Jun 2015 #51

You asked me about real life DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #55

or learn from their fights as you did in Deltona aspirant Jun 2015 #37

I learned to treat people respectfully because some people don't take too kindly ... DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #50

If it goes against your nature aspirant Jun 2015 #65

Respectfully, I believe you are mischaracterizing what I said DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #73

If your on the internet, the keyboard doesn't limit any words that I'm aware of. aspirant Jun 2015 #86

I have no desire to insult or disrespect anybody. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #91

Don't you have the ignore button as a shield aspirant Jun 2015 #104

Why do I need a mechanism to stop me from something I said I was disinclined to do? DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #109

...but you still have the thoughts, aspirant Jun 2015 #131

In every post in this thread I have said I have no intention to... DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #135

Turn the other cheek, aspirant Jun 2015 #150

I am unfailingly kind, polite, respectful to people, to the point of almost being deferential... DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #157

Post removed Post removed Jun 2015 #192

Nasty... haikugal Jun 2015 #168

Well-practiced nastiness Hekate Jun 2015 #213

Would this also mean Hillary approves of Bernie being called a sexist and a racist? SaranchaIsWaiting Jun 2015 #14

Anyone who states that Bernie is a bigot towards women, blacks or the GLBT geek tragedy Jun 2015 #18

Did you miss the ongoing tirad... Cosmic Kitten Jun 2015 #27

I have seen those threads, and there is a very, very big difference geek tragedy Jun 2015 #35

DISAGREE, dog whistle politics is endemic to some teams Cosmic Kitten Jun 2015 #45

you ARE dismissing them. geek tragedy Jun 2015 #54

Well said... Spazito Jun 2015 #64

Who is the arbiter of "legitimate perspectives" Cosmic Kitten Jun 2015 #74

you're dismissing them because they don't agree with you. geek tragedy Jun 2015 #78

I dismissed who exactly? Cosmic Kitten Jun 2015 #85

Absolutely dismissive. Bobbie Jo Jun 2015 #88

"dismissive" "they" "arrogant" Cosmic Kitten Jun 2015 #95

Check, check, check. Bobbie Jo Jun 2015 #100

Oh geez Cosmic Kitten Jun 2015 #106

Add to that list...mocking. Bobbie Jo Jun 2015 #123

Mmm Hmm Cosmic Kitten Jun 2015 #151

Check. Bobbie Jo Jun 2015 #164

So is Bernie a Racist? aspirant Jun 2015 #114

Of course not. Bobbie Jo Jun 2015 #126

Who are the "race-baiting whiners"? aspirant Jun 2015 #198

What? Bobbie Jo Jun 2015 #210

Does Bernie agree with wedge issues? aspirant Jun 2015 #118

Bernie doesn't think civil rights and equality are 'wedge issues' nor does he think geek tragedy Jun 2015 #120

I agree with Bernie aspirant Jun 2015 #200

I don't see any nt geek tragedy Jun 2015 #233

Enlighten us on how YOU distinguish aspirant Jun 2015 #146

same way one distinguishes betwee genuine supporters of Bernie Sanders geek tragedy Jun 2015 #148

Oh, so it's subjective and open to personal bias? Cosmic Kitten Jun 2015 #154

Subjective, what a personal view. aspirant Jun 2015 #205

I agree. Maturity also grants a measure of empathy. MADem Jun 2015 #90

Any sign of maturity is telling the truth, aspirant Jun 2015 #137

Does Bernie call them "race-baiting whiners"? aspirant Jun 2015 #134

Has Hillary distanced herself from these statements? aspirant Jun 2015 #41

I doubt Bernie or Hillary reads DU. I hope they don't, nt geek tragedy Jun 2015 #42

Do you think talking points are only released to DU? aspirant Jun 2015 #67

+1,000,000 Cosmic Kitten Jun 2015 #24

How can I forget 'gun nut'. SaranchaIsWaiting Jun 2015 #25

what could be more "paternal" than Sanders supporters saying minorities only support KittyWampus Jun 2015 #34

So you won't give Bernie the time aspirant Jun 2015 #44

Paternal: Cosmic Kitten Jun 2015 #47

So, because of some nobodies usernames on a forum, you will decide to vote for someone else... Rex Jun 2015 #87

Right? And the DLC wonders why we lose elections! Cosmic Kitten Jun 2015 #97

What a bizarre non sequitur. And a sad misreading of my original post. KittyWampus Jun 2015 #115

No, I chose O'Malley because he doesn't see things solely as an economic problem to be solved. KittyWampus Jun 2015 #113

Authoritarians don't get that. Marr Jun 2015 #43

kinda like... do as I say, not as I do??? Cosmic Kitten Jun 2015 #48

Or not getting the idea that people who support a politician aren't also Marr Jun 2015 #49

NICE! THAT really gets to the point! Cosmic Kitten Jun 2015 #56

LOL! The least tolerant posters on DU are the most likely to throw the word Authoritarian around KittyWampus Jun 2015 #117

Can you support that accusation? Cosmic Kitten Jun 2015 #124

My dream candidate isn't running dsc Jun 2015 #52

What is your point? Cosmic Kitten Jun 2015 #60

yes dsc Jun 2015 #72

I don't speak for Bernie... cherokeeprogressive Jun 2015 #53

Imagine that! Cosmic Kitten Jun 2015 #57

Why are you not angelic? Prism Jun 2015 #58

Erhmahgerd...teh erony et berns!!!11!11!1 Cosmic Kitten Jun 2015 #61

How long before the appeals to civility brigade realize LittleBlue Jun 2015 #62

Probably never. Cosmic Kitten Jun 2015 #63

Yup the obvious concern trolls are obvious.... truebrit71 Jun 2015 #76

*"nasty things" = highlighting her actual positions or quoting her directly... SaranchaIsWaiting Jun 2015 #83

What I think is shameful is how a member on a time out was talked about yesterday. SaranchaIsWaiting Jun 2015 #79

+1 Cosmic Kitten Jun 2015 #89

That thread was truly sickening. kath Jun 2015 #93

But according to Hillary supporters hootinholler Jun 2015 #191

Unfortunately that is standard nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #193

The scolding of Bernie is also entertaining matt819 Jun 2015 #96

consider it "weighing in" against ridiculousness Cosmic Kitten Jun 2015 #107

No doubt Bernie can handle whatever is thrown at him. SaranchaIsWaiting Jun 2015 #110

Odd. I've been experiencing the exact opposite. Vinca Jun 2015 #125

Re read it nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #132

In the unforgettable words of Rick Perry . . . OOPS. Vinca Jun 2015 #182

Well, thanks for scolding Bernie supporters, I guess? n/t Orsino Jun 2015 #172

Um, no? Cosmic Kitten Jun 2015 #176

Yeah. Orsino Jun 2015 #180

It's getting really silly at this point. Avalux Jun 2015 #186

It's the Corporatists vs The Little People aspirant Jun 2015 #208

For the sake of civility, I will simply say that some things are not what they seem. McCamy Taylor Jun 2015 #234

I can't imagine who thinks that trashing the other candidate is going to change anyone's mind, 6000eliot Jun 2015 #240