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Maedhros

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4. You're missing the fact that the "Bernie is not electable" argument is unadulterated bullshit,

Wed Jun 24, 2015, 04:44 PM

Jun 2015

a campaign talking point used to try and peel primary votes away from Bernie (just like the "Bernie is tone deaf to minorities" campaign talking point).

The entire Hillary campaign is, at it's heart, dishonest: trying to convince us that a Wall Street darling is really a progressive.

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If Sanders cannot win the Presidency and Clinton can then Clinton voters won't vote Sanders [View all] Fumesucker Jun 2015 OP

So the people who get called 'label-only' voters and... JaneyVee Jun 2015 #1

I think they're thinking that they personally will vote for him, but that a lot of other Dems won't. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2015 #2

The vast majority here have vowed to vote for the Democratic nominee frazzled Jun 2015 #3

Is that an admission that Bernie is electable? Fumesucker Jun 2015 #10

It's no comment on anybody's electability frazzled Jun 2015 #20

Bless your heart Fumesucker Jun 2015 #24

+1. nt Snotcicles Jun 2015 #52

That's pretty much how I see it too. Sheepshank Jun 2015 #11

You're missing the fact that the "Bernie is not electable" argument is unadulterated bullshit, Maedhros Jun 2015 #4

YUP madokie Jun 2015 #37

+1 Scuba Jun 2015 #38

+1. Agreed. GoneFishin Jun 2015 #39

Clinton's electability swilton Jun 2015 #5

This poll...She seems to be doing just fine DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #7

You seem to repost this a lot. kenfrequed Jun 2015 #18

Is this better? DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #19

Confusing "imply" and "infer" may be the fundamental flaw of your hypothesis. LanternWaste Jun 2015 #6

He's also ignoring independents who are a large part of the electorate. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #8

Why would you say that? Trajan Jun 2015 #26

Not he , the original poster. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #27

I haven't seen one supporter of Clinton say they won't vote for the nominee. zappaman Jun 2015 #9

yup..... n/t Sheepshank Jun 2015 #12

I'm not the one making the argument Fumesucker Jun 2015 #13

And they will still vote for Sanders. zappaman Jun 2015 #15

Well then he is electable, by golly! frylock Jun 2015 #21

Then Sanders is electable Fumesucker Jun 2015 #23

Sure according to those of us on DU... Agschmid Jun 2015 #28

I'm just taking the argument to its conclusion Fumesucker Jun 2015 #35

It's not a valid argument because we don't represent the people you are expanding it too. Agschmid Jun 2015 #36

I remember 2008 and who got miffed at what Fumesucker Jun 2015 #47

My only point is that DU is not representative of the D. Party as a whole. Agschmid Jun 2015 #51

LOL! Rex Jun 2015 #43

Saying Bernie is unelectable is not saying upaloopa Jun 2015 #64

Who says Sanders cannot win? The people who own nearly all of our media? dogknob Jun 2015 #14

Exactly. What else are they going to say about a true populist. GoneFishin Jun 2015 #45

Seems that Clinton supporters never did support our President Obama madokie Jun 2015 #16

It is, by and large, the opposite. NanceGreggs Jun 2015 #53

LOL madokie Jun 2015 #54

If you browse the BOG ... NanceGreggs Jun 2015 #59

You need to pay attention then madokie Jun 2015 #60

Well, I guess you haven't been paying very close attention. NanceGreggs Jun 2015 #65

a LOT of general election voters don't vote in primaries. nt geek tragedy Jun 2015 #17

You left out "not members of the Democratic Party" in your description of "Clinton voters". eom MohRokTah Jun 2015 #22

English is actually my first language Fumesucker Jun 2015 #25

I don't want to have to vote for Hillary but I will if I must. PeteSelman Jun 2015 #29

This might be true, but is not necessarily true. surrealAmerican Jun 2015 #30

I think it's practically certain that more of them would turn out to vote against Clinton. Marr Jun 2015 #42

I will not through action or inaction support a Republican Agnosticsherbet Jun 2015 #31

Well according to some Clinton supporters *someone* will vote for one but not the other Fumesucker Jun 2015 #33

Senator Sanders likes HIllary Clinton. Agnosticsherbet Jun 2015 #41

I don't see how that addresses the point in the OP Fumesucker Jun 2015 #49

I have not seen any of Clinton's supporters say that Agnosticsherbet Jun 2015 #63

Not true. B Calm Jun 2015 #32

That's not the big issue for me. The problem is that Sanders is determined to only take Federal matching pnwmom Jun 2015 #34

I've noticed that same thing. Marr Jun 2015 #40

I don't work on K-Street, but I have voted Democrat since I was 19 . orpupilofnature57 Jun 2015 #44

Non sequitur. The logic in your argument just doesn't follow. tritsofme Jun 2015 #46

It's not my argument, it's an argument implicit in "electability" claims Fumesucker Jun 2015 #50

And I explained why that implication is a non sequitur tritsofme Jun 2015 #56

The implication is incorrect jberryhill Jun 2015 #68

As I see it, reading comments on other sites sadoldgirl Jun 2015 #48

Your argument is missing one third of the electorate. Renew Deal Jun 2015 #55

I'm not a lawyer, but I believe this is called - speculation... TheProgressive Jun 2015 #57

No it really doesn't, mythology Jun 2015 #58

far more people vote in the general election than a primary JI7 Jun 2015 #61

You can bet your ass Hillary supporters upaloopa Jun 2015 #62

The general electorate is broader than the primary electorate jberryhill Jun 2015 #66

Where are the Sanders vs the GOP horde...polls??????????????? Historic NY Jun 2015 #67