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pnwmom

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73. Wrong. Lots of moderate Dems and independents won't vote for a socialist. Period.

Wed Jun 24, 2015, 05:47 PM

Jun 2015

And there's no reason that a moderate Dem or independent wouldn't believe Sanders and also believe Clinton. I'm not talking about Rethugs, I'm talking about moderates and centrists.

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Same old crap starting again... [View all] kentuck Jun 2015 OP

Don't know if you noticed this thread in the Populist Group. merrily Jun 2015 #1

Thanks! I had not read it... kentuck Jun 2015 #2

You're welcome. merrily Jun 2015 #4

Had missed it, just recced it. Great post. madfloridian Jun 2015 #6

There are also a couple of threads I started about Mondale, supposedly the other ""proof" merrily Jun 2015 #7

1972 and 1984 1939 Jun 2015 #21

1972 was 1972 demwing Jun 2015 #87

Huh? 1939 Jun 2015 #94

well said virtualobserver Jun 2015 #3

Amazing how 1972 is totally relevant, but 2008 has been completely forgotten and written off. Warren DeMontague Jun 2015 #5

When personal wealth is involved, conservatives tend to have memory lapses. nt raouldukelives Jun 2015 #20

True. hifiguy Jun 2015 #38

True. And the simple fact of the matter is, we live in a completely different world now. Warren DeMontague Jun 2015 #43

And isn't it interesting that so many Millennials hifiguy Jun 2015 #51

More amazing to me is 1968 is irrelevant. jeff47 Jun 2015 #42

Okay, but like I said. Would you use the elections of '24 and '28 as a lens to analyze the political Warren DeMontague Jun 2015 #44

No, I'm just talking about how they always stop at 1972. jeff47 Jun 2015 #47

Another example no one seems to like, in '04 we nominated the supposedly "smarter, stronger" choice. Warren DeMontague Jun 2015 #74

No doubt madokie Jun 2015 #8

Bernie calls himself a Democratic Socialist, and that's unfortunate, no matter what most pnwmom Jun 2015 #9

This message was self-deleted by its author aspirant Jun 2015 #10

HRC Is carrying so much baggage aspirant Jun 2015 #11

Hillary Clinton has had no "risqué" lifestyle. She is not her husband, pnwmom Jun 2015 #12

They are married and locked at the hips aspirant Jun 2015 #16

Bill has a 70% approval rating. JaneyVee Jun 2015 #30

Good, aspirant Jun 2015 #33

Risque lifestyle? That sort of verbiage makes LGBT people wary, just so you know. Bluenorthwest Jun 2015 #23

+1 Lisa D Jun 2015 #29

She has a battalion of skeletons in her closet. hifiguy Jun 2015 #39

Case in point AgingAmerican Jun 2015 #14

The corporate Dems can't even put the lie to the Republicans dreamnightwind Jun 2015 #15

+1 Scuba Jun 2015 #18

So few can speak with authenticity against those forces today. raouldukelives Jun 2015 #25

What's unfortunate are the decades of repression deutsey Jun 2015 #22

They will have a field day with any nominee. rbnyc Jun 2015 #37

You realize that the people who care won't vote for any Democrat, right? jeff47 Jun 2015 #48

Moderate Dems and independents might not want to vote for a "socialist" pnwmom Jun 2015 #50

Sorry, the red scare is over. jeff47 Jun 2015 #54

No, the poll showed that 50% would NOT vote for a socialist. pnwmom Jun 2015 #58

And those kinds of numbers change when there is an actual candidate. jeff47 Jun 2015 #59

If it's toxic for Clinton as a lie, it would be 10 times as toxic for Sanders, as confirmed truth. pnwmom Jun 2015 #63

Except it is also a lie for Sanders. jeff47 Jun 2015 #65

"Socialist" is the noun, "Democratic" is the adjective modifying the noun. pnwmom Jun 2015 #66

So now they're pedantic about grammar but unable to google what the term means. jeff47 Jun 2015 #68

They couldn't care less about grammar. But they will HEAR the word SOCIALIST pnwmom Jun 2015 #70

If hearing the word SOCIALIST will be enough, they won't be voting for the Democrat. jeff47 Jun 2015 #72

Wrong. Lots of moderate Dems and independents won't vote for a socialist. Period. pnwmom Jun 2015 #73

That is what rightwingers have told me for years on the nets, that America is a randys1 Jun 2015 #76

I'm not saying that America is a center right country. pnwmom Jun 2015 #80

obama campaigned like a socialist questionseverything Jun 2015 #81

The ACA greatly helped people over 55. Yes, the premiums can be 3 times as high -- pnwmom Jun 2015 #83

great commercial questionseverything Jun 2015 #84

I don't see how that would be true since subsidies limit the amount to 8% of income. n/g pnwmom Jun 2015 #86

i resent you saying i am lying questionseverything Jun 2015 #89

Are you talking about a family plan? Because no individual plan has an out of pocket of $12K. pnwmom Jun 2015 #92

yes 12 grand for 2 of us a year was what i have in notes questionseverything Jun 2015 #93

Exactly right. That's why we won't worry about them. "The people to whom "socialist!!!!" is highly rhett o rick Jun 2015 #88

It was a huge mistake redstateblues Jun 2015 #55

We tried capitalism. It didn't work. KansDem Jun 2015 #79

I admire your spirit postatomic Jun 2015 #13

k&r HappyMe Jun 2015 #17

Why do LWolf Jun 2015 #19

Because they like it. jeff47 Jun 2015 #45

I think that's pretty astute, kind of a sunk cost fallacy for social progress Fumesucker Jun 2015 #95

It's very simple: Maedhros Jun 2015 #77

At this time... 99Forever Jun 2015 #24

I'm going to support Sanders regardless of the predicted odds. nt ladjf Jun 2015 #27

Same here, I remember when Obama was a long shot. Kalidurga Jun 2015 #28

Good post. nt ladjf Jun 2015 #26

K&R CharlotteVale Jun 2015 #31

Fuck that noise. The people want Bernie. azmom Jun 2015 #32

Then why does he only poll at 15% of Democrats? MohRokTah Jun 2015 #35

because many of the people haven't heard about him yet... lame54 Jun 2015 #36

And they won't hear about him because his campaign hasn't got the money to get his message out. MohRokTah Jun 2015 #46

the internet age... lame54 Jun 2015 #49

Obama had a brilliant strategy. I don't see that from Bernie so far. redstateblues Jun 2015 #56

give it up - i'm for Bernie lame54 Jun 2015 #57

It won't help. nt stevenleser Jun 2015 #91

His strategy is to tell the truth and hope it's more important than money. arcane1 Jun 2015 #62

Truth telling IS a brilliant strategy! BuelahWitch Jun 2015 #75

Oh Bull Shit! MohRokTah Jun 2015 #78

The adults know best Babel_17 Jun 2015 #34

I am with you 100%, kentuck! hifiguy Jun 2015 #40

Just got out and ain't going back ... seveneyes Jun 2015 #41

K&R! peacebird Jun 2015 #52

Everything that's ever happened will repeat with no change, except Clinton's 2008 loss arcane1 Jun 2015 #53

Bravo! whatchamacallit Jun 2015 #61

Apparently old dogs need new tricks. democrank Jun 2015 #60

One can't "Take issue" either. There is only agreement or "bashing" arcane1 Jun 2015 #64

K&R! This post should have hundreds of recommendations! Enthusiast Jun 2015 #67

Kick! Great post! Juicy_Bellows Jun 2015 #69

I'm not worried about it, the funny thing is... Rex Jun 2015 #71

Great post Omaha Steve Jun 2015 #82

Abso-fucking-lutely! LiberalElite Jun 2015 #85

I totally agree! ozone_man Jun 2015 #90