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joshcryer

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62. You answer your own question...

Wed Jun 24, 2015, 06:49 PM

Jun 2015

...those countries don't have "permanent normal trade relations." Access to those markets is difficult.

The American people want cheap slave labor produced goods.

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If the TPP being rammed through puts the lie to anything [View all] Bonobo Jun 2015 OP

Congress agreed with him on TPA. joshcryer Jun 2015 #1

We need a TAA only because the TPP is going to take even MORE jobs away from Americans. RiverLover Jun 2015 #5

It's not the screwers that have any guilt.. Volaris Jun 2015 #19

Well, waking up won't get us out of the political ladjf Jun 2015 #28

More like the corporate owners off congress agreed with him on TPA... cascadiance Jun 2015 #26

Proves Obama Is A Liar billhicks76 Jun 2015 #83

What was the alternative to TPP? tia Looks like agree on something or start a currency war that... uponit7771 Jun 2015 #2

Remove "permanent normal trade relations" with China. joshcryer Jun 2015 #3

How does TPP ween us off of China's cheap slave labor by diverting production to other slave jwirr Jun 2015 #36

You answer your own question... joshcryer Jun 2015 #62

Okay - got cha. However I for one do not want these slave labor goods. And would do without them jwirr Jun 2015 #68

TPP doesn't do anything to prevent a currency war. jeff47 Jun 2015 #39

It also suggests that what gets past the resistance is often worse. HereSince1628 Jun 2015 #4

Obama won't sign without TAA. joshcryer Jun 2015 #6

Sounds ok, but I'm not convinced 'what was-will be". HereSince1628 Jun 2015 #7

Yeah but we wouldn't need TAA if we didn't have these 'free trade' agreements PatrickforO Jun 2015 #8

Um... You Sure About That ??? WillyT Jun 2015 #18

If he signs without TAA then it never passes. joshcryer Jun 2015 #61

I Guess We Shall See... Tanking TAA Was Supposed To Kill TPP... It Did Not... WillyT Jun 2015 #67

TAA has utterly failed after every previous "trade" agreement. jeff47 Jun 2015 #41

We don't disagree. joshcryer Jun 2015 #63

I disagree. hedda_foil Jun 2015 #76

I should say, he might sign without TAA... joshcryer Jun 2015 #78

Another demander of perfection making an enemy of the good, it is an epidemic. Yawners. Fred Sanders Jun 2015 #9

This is "the good" ? marmar Jun 2015 #12

You fail to comprehend a commonly understood saying? Emoticons do not help with understanding anything. Fred Sanders Jun 2015 #14

Oh, I understand it. It's just not applicable in this case. marmar Jun 2015 #20

Do you know that only the U.S. has Fast Track? olegramps Jun 2015 #31

Do you know when fast track general authority request to Congress was given to Presidents was made law, and why!? History is informative. Fred Sanders Jun 2015 #32

Then you'd be able to provide a link to that history. jeff47 Jun 2015 #42

Yes, it might surprise you that most on this board know this. olegramps Jun 2015 #43

The Vietnamese worker is paid in something not dollars and buys with something not dollars in an Fred Sanders Jun 2015 #44

You should aquaint yourself with the facts concerning foreign workers. olegramps Jun 2015 #46

Call me compassionate if you want but I believe the Vietnamese worker will benefit from the Fred Sanders Jun 2015 #47

Right now, the majority of US exports are weapons. So that's a good thing? Dont call me Shirley Jun 2015 #49

What? Not true, though American weapons sales are a huge problem, not to Vietnam though, and...what? Fred Sanders Jun 2015 #50

Tell me what is different about this trade agreement and NAFTA for example. olegramps Jun 2015 #59

Since the TPA has passed I will look at the TPP with you and everyone else and we can then more intelligently comment? Fred Sanders Jun 2015 #60

That I can believe from news of effective demonstrations in Munich and other parts of Europe. appalachiablue Jun 2015 #88

But Congress DIDN'T oppose him....the republican held congress LOVES this bill... truebrit71 Jun 2015 #10

Congress didn't oppose him on this. Renew Deal Jun 2015 #11

Actually, as I recall he campaigned on a "public option", NorthCarolina Jun 2015 #13

Precisely. This is what a person looks like when they make a sincere effort rather than play acting GoneFishin Jun 2015 #15

A buy-partisan effort, for multinational corporations not US citizens who elect our representatives. appalachiablue Jun 2015 #16

The guy fucks him and he responds by kissing his ass. olegramps Jun 2015 #34

FDR's a difficult comparison for any politician, but agree this is one of the most unequipped, appalachiablue Jun 2015 #40

Good one, appalachiablue, Fascist Track! Dont call me Shirley Jun 2015 #64

It's what it is unfortunately! appalachiablue Jun 2015 #69

With added caption ... nikto Jun 2015 #77

They might even become gold buddies. Politics is a strange business, anything can happen! appalachiablue Jun 2015 #79

lol nikto Jun 2015 #81

Congress was opposed to the TPP? WinkyDink Jun 2015 #17

My thoughts too n/t deutsey Jun 2015 #21

Except he was pushing for something the GOP wanted CanonRay Jun 2015 #22

It's one Big Money Party - truedelphi Jun 2015 #54

Jami & the bankers demanded the TPP, and Obama & the ass-lickers will carry it out! dmosh42 Jun 2015 #23

I think many of us who attend Obama speeches from this time forward should turn our backs on him! cascadiance Jun 2015 #29

This is like going back to 1910, with the bluebloods calling the shots. dmosh42 Jun 2015 #33

Precisely, dmosh42, pre fucking cisely. hedda_foil Jun 2015 #80

Republicans, US Chamber of Commerce and corporate Democrats neverforget Jun 2015 #24

Fact checking - Obama promised single payer? yallerdawg Jun 2015 #25

Bingo. Myrina Jun 2015 #27

It Is Clear That Obama Sold The 99% Out cantbeserious Jun 2015 #30

Obama has shown, through his actions, Thespian2 Jun 2015 #35

Yes, that was a lie. Betty Karlson Jun 2015 #37

OTOH It is refreshing to actually see him fighting for something. raouldukelives Jun 2015 #38

It indeed must be refreshing for some folks to have lost all memory of the last 6 years. Fred Sanders Jun 2015 #48

Yep, for them it is all peaches and cream. raouldukelives Jun 2015 #71

Like losing a child in a war?....S T R E T C H. That is not analogy, that is literary butchery. Fred Sanders Jun 2015 #72

Amem to that. Lord help me to only ever be guilty of butchering words. raouldukelives Jun 2015 #74

Bernie Sanders: Single Payer Never Had A Chance Cali_Democrat Jun 2015 #45

Remind me never to let you sell a used car for me eridani Jun 2015 #65

Well THAT is ridiculous randys1 Jun 2015 #51

On DU the transparent ridiculousness over a trade treaty dominated by opening of trade with huge/rich Japan has become the sublime. Fred Sanders Jun 2015 #52

The comparison the OP makes is not just ridiculous, but should NEVER be seen on an alleged randys1 Jun 2015 #53

I am of two minds. On the one hand, as you say. But on the other it is a chance to change minds with Fred Sanders Jun 2015 #56

This is a really nonsensical OP. Not only did Congress approve of the TPP but so have majorities Number23 Jun 2015 #70

Yep, and there is always money for war and bailing out azmom Jun 2015 #55

What war has Obama been involved in, versus prevented, as I did not fall asleep these last 6 years? Fred Sanders Jun 2015 #58

For starters.. Lybia KelleyKramer Jun 2015 #75

If you are going to make such huge stretches, at least spell the countries names right. Fred Sanders Jun 2015 #86

Actually, Obama was Republican on this. ananda Jun 2015 #57

That little line has always been BS and plenty of us said so all along. Autumn Jun 2015 #66

How many of these Dems who voted for it, get summoned to the White House before the vote? YOHABLO Jun 2015 #73

Or The Employee Free Choice Act Omaha Steve Jun 2015 #82

I'm not happy about it and think the whole thing is BS davidpdx Jun 2015 #84

There's no comparison at all. zentrum Jun 2015 #85

Obama is being greased by the same slimeballs who are greasing the GOP d_legendary1 Jun 2015 #87