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53. I'm right there with you n/t

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Wed Jun 24, 2015, 08:15 PM

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That's all she wrote: Pelosi to support TAA [View all] Proud Public Servant Jun 2015 OP

Hey Hillary! Is Obama STILL supposed to "listen to Nancy Pelosi"? 99th_Monkey Jun 2015 #1

Yeah Nancy was for it. A kabuki show for the unwashed masses. Autumn Jun 2015 #10

Abso-fuckin-lutely. hifiguy Jun 2015 #43

Sooo sick of this crap. Guess it's up to Bernie to lead the way and champion the progressive cause. InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2015 #54

Kabuki Productions presents: The Great Trade Deal Art_from_Ark Jun 2015 #65

Right now my only feeling is - fuck everyone who voted yes on any of this crap. djean111 Jun 2015 #2

I'm right there with you n/t markpkessinger Jun 2015 #53

Susan Davis will not receive my vote in 2016 frylock Jun 2015 #56

This whole process has been a charade senseandsensibility Jun 2015 #3

Sorry I didn't lay down a $$ bet on the bs theater. nc4bo Jun 2015 #4

And this is democracy? lonestarnot Jun 2015 #5

We are a representative democracy, we elected these representatives. Agnosticsherbet Jun 2015 #31

Well, people voted for them, hifiguy Jun 2015 #44

Stand alone Fast Track has already been approved by both houses of Congress. geek tragedy Jun 2015 #6

Yes, but Obama said Proud Public Servant Jun 2015 #7

That was a very weak bluff on his part. geek tragedy Jun 2015 #9

It worked. DCBob Jun 2015 #18

Not really. He and the Republicans called the House Democrats' bluff on TAA. geek tragedy Jun 2015 #20

So it worked. DCBob Jun 2015 #21

Exactly as designed... joshcryer Jun 2015 #55

100% staged Kabuki theater. Pelosi "allows" enough non-vulnerable caucus members to support TPA Romulox Jun 2015 #8

that is how it *always* goes - the whip excuses the vulnerable, once passage is assured HFRN Jun 2015 #77

Does it still have a Medicare cut-out? Recursion Jun 2015 #11

Nope, they took that out (nt) Proud Public Servant Jun 2015 #14

Makes me wonder if that was a big Ryan "FU" to Pelosi and Obama Recursion Jun 2015 #16

Glad to hear that. DCBob Jun 2015 #25

hero to traitor in the blink of an eye Agony Jun 2015 #12

Is TAA the one that's being paid for with cuts to Medicare? octoberlib Jun 2015 #13

Not any more Proud Public Servant Jun 2015 #15

If it ever is funded it will be a miracle. hifiguy Jun 2015 #45

Only if they take some blood Nite Owl Jun 2015 #52

All we have now is a "D" wing and an "R" wing of the Corporate Party. hobbit709 Jun 2015 #17

If the TPP is going to be so fucking awesome for us, why the need for TAA? TwilightGardener Jun 2015 #19

That is the $64,000 question... truebrit71 Jun 2015 #32

Heck, I can retrain people for a lot less than $500-$700 Million... Buns_of_Fire Jun 2015 #22

No, the TAA is not a good bill. jeff47 Jun 2015 #23

Like treating melanoma with a band-aid. Buns_of_Fire Jun 2015 #24

i have yet to meet anyone who's ever benefitted from 'adjustments' HFRN Jun 2015 #78

What is TAA? DCBob Jun 2015 #33

That's because it's the WSJ's job to make it sound reasonable. jeff47 Jun 2015 #34

Well, I am sure there will be procedures in place to deal with that. DCBob Jun 2015 #35

I already explained those procedures. jeff47 Jun 2015 #37

Maybe not easy but there will be procedures in place. DCBob Jun 2015 #38

And again, those procedures are designed to make it nearly impossible. jeff47 Jun 2015 #39

I dont believe that. DCBob Jun 2015 #42

A pathetic attempt at ass-covering is the only point. hifiguy Jun 2015 #47

It's political cover jeff47 Jun 2015 #49

I believe it's more than that. DCBob Jun 2015 #50

One thing I'm sure about brentspeak Jun 2015 #83

Sorry if simple truths are beyond your understanding. DCBob Jun 2015 #85

The only jobs available will be flipping burgers hifiguy Jun 2015 #46

Thanks for cutting my Medicare, all you fuckers. Dont call me Shirley Jun 2015 #26

evidently, they took the Medicare cut out. But it looks to me like Obama would have signed it with djean111 Jun 2015 #28

Thank you for letting me know, djean111. I can rest easier, for now. Dont call me Shirley Jun 2015 #36

New Democratic Network? fredamae Jun 2015 #27

OMG! Is this a satirical site, or a new incarnation of the Democratic Leadership Council? Cleita Jun 2015 #41

Reminds me of the New Democrat Coalition. djean111 Jun 2015 #51

Weekend Bribefest a big success? moondust Jun 2015 #29

What was the trade-off? MADem Jun 2015 #30

IMO, the trade-off is it won't pass. jeff47 Jun 2015 #40

Absurd. joshcryer Jun 2015 #57

Agreements like "let's cut Medicare to pay for TAA"? (nt) jeff47 Jun 2015 #62

I thought Pelosi was asking for major infrastructure to even get past the TAA stage. MADem Jun 2015 #58

Not major, just another $175 million. joshcryer Jun 2015 #59

Well, Pelosi said TPA was horrible while whipping votes to pass TPA. jeff47 Jun 2015 #63

I didn't know that Obama was the only president in the modern era to NOT have TAA authority. MADem Jun 2015 #64

TAA is not TPA. jeff47 Jun 2015 #66

I'm sorry, I misspoke-Obama has been the first POTUS in modern times to not have TPA in the toolbox. MADem Jun 2015 #67

Yeah, that's why Clinton negotiated TPA after NAFTA was pubilc jeff47 Jun 2015 #68

Again, Obama is the only POTUS in modern times to not have it for the vast majority of his term. MADem Jun 2015 #70

Again, Clinton had to go get it. He did not have it. jeff47 Jun 2015 #71

It expired in 2007, and carried over to the deals already in the pipeline. MADem Jun 2015 #74

So it is a terrible insult to Obama that it is time limited and every previous president jeff47 Jun 2015 #80

It's an insult that Congress denied it to him for the bulk of his Presidency. nt MADem Jun 2015 #81

Yes, that would such an injustice brentspeak Jun 2015 #84

We got ACA and gay marriage - TBF Jun 2015 #72

That's the judicial branch--nothing to do with the legislature. MADem Jun 2015 #73

Theoretically you are correct - TBF Jun 2015 #75

Have I ever spent time inside the beltway? I know my way around the Hill better than most. MADem Jun 2015 #79

I hope you're right - TBF Jun 2015 #82

"While we may not all vote in the same manner on TAA, I will support its passage because it can open Cha Jun 2015 #48

Cha is that likely? lonestarnot Jun 2015 #61

Doesn't seem like Pelosi got much if anything for it. joshcryer Jun 2015 #60

this is what happens without publicly financed elections restorefreedom Jun 2015 #69

This was always going to happen. They do NOT represent us onecaliberal Jun 2015 #76