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RiverNoord

(1,150 posts)
58. OK, again...
Wed Jun 24, 2015, 08:18 PM
Jun 2015

I didn't ask an explicit question. When issues such as 'should there be greater gun ownership regulations in the United States?' are discussed, the 'question' is simply implied by the nature of the issue. You knew the question - it's not complicated. There are nuances, certainly, but the 'main question' is simply yes or no, with, certainly, important details remaining, but if there is no consensus on the main question, there is no point even trying to address the remaining important details.

If your opinion is that there should not be, in general terms, tighter gun control regulations in this country, then your post, which dealt only with my inclusion of 'certain high powered rifles' in the category of weapons that should be more tightly regulated, was irrelevant and and attempt to distract. The other possibility is that you meant something like 'well, I do see the problem of handgun violence as something that should be addressed, potentially through greater regulation, but I don't agree that any high-powered rifles are really important in the discussion, as very few injuries and deaths, proportionately, are caused by fire from such weapons.' If that approximates your perspective, then I expect that you would not have singled out the 'high powered rifles' component of my statement to comment on, without saying anything else.

I wasn't misled, neither was I seeking to mislead. I do believe that some high-powered semi- and full-automatic rifles, with high-capacity magazines and available armor piercing ammo, have no place in general legal circulation of firearms. That's my belief, and there are reasons for it. However, it is true that the most destructive firearms in our country, in terms of injuries and deaths, are handguns.

So I will, this time, ask a simple question: do you believe that handgun violence is a serious enough problem in the United States that smarter and broader regulation of either handgun manufacturing or distribution, or both, should be pursued?

If you say no, then, again, my prior point stands. If you say yes, I will agree that I was mistaken. If you say nothing, then my prior point stands doubly.

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Ban all guns! PowerToThePeople Jun 2015 #1
Yes, if only those 87 year old women had been faster on the draw. villager Jun 2015 #2
I hate to say it, but... TheCowsCameHome Jun 2015 #3
Charles “Chas” Cotton, I wish you all the onecaliberal Jun 2015 #4
Holy fkg gd LiberalElite Jun 2015 #5
Ugh....good lord. Have you no sense of decency, sir, at long last? -nt Liberal Veteran Jun 2015 #6
The NRA's core non-gun-industry members RiverNoord Jun 2015 #55
The NRA libodem Jun 2015 #7
Screw the racist, gun lover (another who says he's a "competitive" shooter), and the many like him. Hoyt Jun 2015 #8
soooo, I want it official and in writing: the NRA wants Black people to have guns MisterP Jun 2015 #9
Have they ever led you to believe differently? linuxman Jun 2015 #14
They did during the civil rights movement. Go look it up sometime. n/t Shamash Jun 2015 #29
This is different than "gun owners all have blood on their hands", how? N/T beevul Jun 2015 #10
The silence in response to your honest question is deafening. pablo_marmol Jun 2015 #25
As if any response..... daleanime Jun 2015 #28
LOL! As if The Controllers were known for embracing empirical evidence........ pablo_marmol Jun 2015 #39
Typical gun trash. nt geek tragedy Jun 2015 #11
Everyone focusing on the guns is wrong Man from Pickens Jun 2015 #12
Yeah. The guns just make it easier world wide wally Jun 2015 #19
only for the brutish Man from Pickens Jun 2015 #20
Your sig line explains your politics. Boomerproud Jun 2015 #36
It's meant to Man from Pickens Jun 2015 #37
You know you stepped in it some people would rather focus on the object rather than the cause... Kalidurga Jun 2015 #27
Again...Changing a cultural concept? busterbrown Jun 2015 #35
Wow RiverNoord Jun 2015 #45
" high-power rifles" beevul Jun 2015 #47
This message was self-deleted by its author RiverNoord Jun 2015 #48
You're right - handguns are mainly involved in murders and other gun violence RiverNoord Jun 2015 #49
"...a flawed statement that really didn't matter with respect to the overall issue..." beevul Jun 2015 #56
OK, again... RiverNoord Jun 2015 #58
No. Just no. beevul Jun 2015 #59
Amazing - and I'm done. RiverNoord Jun 2015 #60
"You went to great lengths to dodge the one question I asked. " beevul Jun 2015 #62
Changing a culture takes decades, at minimum.. Generations? more like it.. busterbrown Jun 2015 #34
OK. So, you would naturally be vigorously against RiverNoord Jun 2015 #44
It wouldn't have hurt in this case Man from Pickens Jun 2015 #46
So, just to be clear... RiverNoord Jun 2015 #50
No sorry Man from Pickens Jun 2015 #53
So yes or no? RiverNoord Jun 2015 #54
If only the two police officers killed in NY a few months ago things would have been different. Renew Deal Jun 2015 #13
here we go again allan01 Jun 2015 #15
I'm pretty sure that was ABC, not the nra. beevul Jun 2015 #23
The ammosexuals are strange, strange people. hifiguy Jun 2015 #16
Only to be expected when you look at the names of the board. hobbit709 Jun 2015 #17
Post removed Post removed Jun 2015 #18
R#21 & K, yeah-yeah they shoulda been Open-Carrying for a big shootout n/t UTUSN Jun 2015 #21
Ah, the Good Guy With the Gun theory Deny and Shred Jun 2015 #22
I agree, that IS vomit worthy. beevul Jun 2015 #24
Hysterical! You didn't even realize that you posted a pro-RESTRICTION playbook! pablo_marmol Jun 2015 #26
I realize it Deny and Shred Jun 2015 #43
your name is perfect. clffrdjk Jun 2015 #57
Truly, Orwell was right. Ignorance -is- strength. n/t Shamash Jun 2015 #30
You do realize that other than firing range and MPs, nobody on a stateside military base is armed? X_Digger Jun 2015 #61
Have these morons never heard of an ambush? You know, how heavily-armed soldiers can be taken WinkyDink Jun 2015 #31
Or friendly fire sarge43 Jun 2015 #32
Especially that last one! WinkyDink Jun 2015 #40
Dear Charles enjoy rotting in hell davidpdx Jun 2015 #33
repulsive. BlancheSplanchnik Jun 2015 #38
You can't fix stupid. And "stupid" is a charitable adjective raccoon Jun 2015 #41
Has Any One Connected the Dots... LovingA2andMI Jun 2015 #42
He just needs a good hard slapping. randys1 Jun 2015 #51
Just call 911? Yeah, right. Big Slim Jun 2015 #52
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