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PeaceNikki

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13. Columbus contributed nothing but being a pioneer in transatlantic slave trading.

Reply to Agnosticsherbet (Reply #10)

Wed Jun 24, 2015, 09:29 PM

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If we were to demolish statues of Robert Lee but not statues of Christopher Columbus [View all] Nye Bevan Jun 2015 OP

Once you start smashing statues, there's just no end. malthaussen Jun 2015 #1

Washington and Jefferson owned slaves, Agnosticsherbet Jun 2015 #2

That stupid talking point isn't getting any less stupid. NuclearDem Jun 2015 #3

Oh, I agree about Davis and Lee. I just want to know Agnosticsherbet Jun 2015 #5

Columbus is an easy add to the "dump" list. PeaceNikki Jun 2015 #8

I think it is better to recognize the real contributions people made Agnosticsherbet Jun 2015 #10

Columbus contributed nothing but being a pioneer in transatlantic slave trading. PeaceNikki Jun 2015 #13

That's a completely jaundiced view. He is a key figure in the creation of global capitalism. Comrade Grumpy Jun 2015 #29

At minimum, several hundred thousands were enslaved, tortured and died because of him. PeaceNikki Jun 2015 #31

"He is a key figure in the creation of global capitalism." Starry Messenger Jun 2015 #60

Would you support the bulldozing and destruction of confederate Graves? n/t oneshooter Jun 2015 #15

No, and that's quite a leap from, "stop honoring Columbus". PeaceNikki Jun 2015 #16

He only has the one talking point SwankyXomb Jun 2015 #20

He thinks he's posting a real "gotcha" question to show what "monsters" we are. PeaceNikki Jun 2015 #23

Several posters have said yes. oneshooter Jun 2015 #27

Those people aren't "historical leaders" of the "United States of America." MADem Jun 2015 #34

Everyone draws their own line seveneyes Jun 2015 #22

Christopher Columbus attacked the United States? jberryhill Jun 2015 #4

Columbus did horrible things to the indigenous people of this country. PeaceNikki Jun 2015 #7

Yes, I understand that jberryhill Jun 2015 #35

The point is RobertEarl Jun 2015 #6

I would not be surprised to learn that Snobblevitch Jun 2015 #9

once you outlaw monuments HFRN Jun 2015 #11

Good point. Columbus should go too. nt Zorra Jun 2015 #12

So we should continue to honor Lee? morningfog Jun 2015 #14

That is the only point edhopper Jun 2015 #24

Let's add him too. I'm game. Starry Messenger Jun 2015 #17

Columbus has to go, too. nt City Lights Jun 2015 #18

Good. I've always hated THE Ohio State. philosslayer Jun 2015 #21

I agree, Columbus was bad. PowerToThePeople Jun 2015 #19

what's the message edhopper Jun 2015 #25

well, unless native Americans cared about Robert E. Lee, it would send no message. kwassa Jun 2015 #26

Dude... we still allow the sale of Bacardi! Hell, rum in general should be banished! cherokeeprogressive Jun 2015 #28

The message to get sledgehammers? I say smash them alll! Smash all statues of racists!!! bravenak Jun 2015 #30

This ^ PeaceNikki Jun 2015 #32

There are other issues besides race in history... Spatened Jun 2015 #38

What about homophobic views? Kurska Jun 2015 #40

The op is related to race. bravenak Jun 2015 #41

Nope, the equivalence behind the idea is clear. Kurska Jun 2015 #42

No. You think I have to see the world on your terms. bravenak Jun 2015 #43

Everyone is required to hold logically consistent positions. Kurska Jun 2015 #44

If people were ACTUALLY required to hold logically consistant positions, the world would be perfect. bravenak Jun 2015 #48

You can feel like smashing statues. Kurska Jun 2015 #49

I'm unconcerned. bravenak Jun 2015 #50

People often are unconcerned. Kurska Jun 2015 #51

I'm just as concerned as the founders were concerned with preserving black bodies and lives bravenak Jun 2015 #53

I don't think it is as simple as you portray it. Kurska Jun 2015 #54

And Many held slaves. Rotated them in the white house to prevent them becoming free. bravenak Jun 2015 #57

Or of any of the Indian fighters immortalized in the west Warpy Jun 2015 #33

Jamestown and Plymouth 1939 Jun 2015 #37

But disease had wiped them out Warpy Jun 2015 #63

Fuck Columbus, let's do something about that real asshole Andrew Jackson CBGLuthier Jun 2015 #36

He should be the one coming off the $20 bill, not Madison from the $10 Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2015 #58

Yep. Out of all those who grace our money he is the worst. CBGLuthier Jun 2015 #61

Doing the Chinese Cultural Revolution in the USA, a nation with no culture (almost) Pooka Fey Jun 2015 #39

Begin with small steps. Simply rename the Washington Redskins. LanternWaste Jun 2015 #45

That photo also belongs on memorials to Washington and Jefferson. Nye Bevan Jun 2015 #46

I reiterate... begin with small steps. LanternWaste Jun 2015 #47

Statues & memorials should remain. The battle flag should NOT be endorsed by govt peacebird Jun 2015 #52

An absolutely horrifying thread. earthside Jun 2015 #55

Who is doing the former? BTW: WHO calls Robert E. Lee "Robert Lee"?? WinkyDink Jun 2015 #56

How about the statue of Lenin that's in Seattle? Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2015 #59

Tear them all down mwrguy Jun 2015 #62

Destroy every monument or building that doesn't fit LeftinOH Jun 2015 #64

I have yet to see a single statue of Christopher Columbus. n/t eShirl Jun 2015 #65

Oh look. More trolling from you, pretending to be clever. nt Guy Whitey Corngood Jun 2015 #66