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3. Ralph Nader 2008!

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Wed Jun 24, 2015, 09:39 PM

Jun 2015

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I am not liking Obama very much these days [View all] Stinky The Clown Jun 2015 OP

These are definitely not his highest achievements. CaliforniaPeggy Jun 2015 #1

Post removed Post removed Jun 2015 #7

This message was self-deleted by its author geek tragedy Jun 2015 #15

Or maybe I'm just not a fan of his policies. nt hay rick Jun 2015 #17

This message was self-deleted by its author geek tragedy Jun 2015 #18

I can't believe the post above this one of yours customerserviceguy Jun 2015 #35

Wow, I can't believe it either dreamnightwind Jun 2015 #45

Racism should be hidden. geek tragedy Jun 2015 #49

Wow....off the rails. nt haikugal Jun 2015 #127

hey, if you think angry white people should be allowed to use Obama's race geek tragedy Jun 2015 #129

Are you one of Cornel Wests critics? haikugal Jun 2015 #133

Cornel West is the socialist Donald Trump. geek tragedy Jun 2015 #134

Back at ya.... haikugal Jun 2015 #139

And the jury results on your post is as follows: Spazito Jun 2015 #140

Funny thing is, same people think that the Obama comment wasn't racist. geek tragedy Jun 2015 #142

Yep, exactly n/t Spazito Jun 2015 #143

Funnier yet, some people think it was. cui bono Jun 2015 #157

It was racist and should have been 7-0 geek tragedy Jun 2015 #47

The post was NOT racist peacebird Jun 2015 #57

Um, the racist part was saying Obama was nothing more than geek tragedy Jun 2015 #63

Except the poster never said that. cui bono Jun 2015 #114

^Exactly this^ nt truebluegreen Jun 2015 #151

100% correct. hifiguy Jun 2015 #154

Me either, nothing said there was in any way hide worthy! Criticize HRC, get hidden? peacebird Jun 2015 #56

Did you even read the post? BeeBee Jun 2015 #105

Was it racist in 2008 when the country was celebrating bvar22 Jun 2015 #132

None of the above, thanks. BeeBee Jun 2015 #138

Did YOU even read the post? cui bono Jun 2015 #156

Confusing proof and evidence is indicative of bias. LanternWaste Jun 2015 #60

Very bad hide. nt haikugal Jun 2015 #126

I think it is foul that your post was hidden. SamKnause Jun 2015 #55

People who feel compelled to use the president's race geek tragedy Jun 2015 #65

There was nothing racist SamKnause Jun 2015 #68

Keep on digging. nt geek tragedy Jun 2015 #72

yep, he's digging a big ole hole Solomon Jun 2015 #97

I expect people to start paraphrasing Geraldine Ferraro pretty soon nt geek tragedy Jun 2015 #98

I noticed you deleted your post FALSELY accusing another of racism. hifiguy Jun 2015 #113

that post was not inaccurate. geek tragedy Jun 2015 #115

Perhpas you should have kept reading the thread? n/t Sheepshank Jun 2015 #116

Never was really high on him Peregrine Took Jun 2015 #2

Maybe you can collaborate with Bill Frist geek tragedy Jun 2015 #12

Exaggerate much? PT said nothing about mental issues. He snagglepuss Jun 2015 #23

Post removed Post removed Jun 2015 #26

"when we saw that Gemini moon in his chart" awoke_in_2003 Jun 2015 #34

Weird hide though. Is it some "code" or just zodiac crap? TheKentuckian Jun 2015 #159

I can't see why it was hidden... awoke_in_2003 Jun 2015 #161

Ralph Nader 2008! onehandle Jun 2015 #3

I saw this coming when he made Rahm Emmanuel his chief of staff at the beginnning... cascadiance Jun 2015 #4

Geithner was the real tipoff. hifiguy Jun 2015 #16

I think the tip-off was before that Art_from_Ark Jun 2015 #52

I agree: it was Geithner, and Summers. truebluegreen Jun 2015 #153

Yup! moonbeam23 Jun 2015 #25

Me either.. whathehell Jun 2015 #5

TPP is a renegotiation of NAFTA. geek tragedy Jun 2015 #11

Yes. Renegotiated to make it even more destructive. whathehell Jun 2015 #41

The GOP was all in favor of the TPP, so now we are all happy with the GOP? Rex Jun 2015 #84

I think the TPP is probably going to be a bad thing, but I think the harm is being geek tragedy Jun 2015 #88

The planet's spin has nothing to do with corporations having ruling power over nations. Rex Jun 2015 #89

No, he wanted this. Now he negotiates with the other 13 countries and tries to seal the deal. geek tragedy Jun 2015 #90

That is part of what I fear, it will tie our hands with corporate legal hocus pocus Rex Jun 2015 #91

The hypothesis is that if this didn't pass, the Chinese sphere of influence would grow geek tragedy Jun 2015 #94

And the WTO gives China 'most favored nation' with America, the TPP should be a monkey wrench. Rex Jun 2015 #96

Please! I'm not happy about TPP but haven't discussed it babylonsister Jun 2015 #6

The whole party should have been pushing for it awoke_in_2003 Jun 2015 #36

The GOP loves the TPP, that should be a red flag imo. Rex Jun 2015 #92

Very few people know that much about TPP because they avebury Jun 2015 #149

Return of the vampire seveneyes Jun 2015 #8

He ignored single payer way back when he started running for president in 2007. Skinner Jun 2015 #9

The GOP loves them some TPP, so now we do to!? Rex Jun 2015 #85

It will have an almost immediate, direct and profound impact on most people's lives FlatBaroque Jun 2015 #10

People don't need to know what's in their Soylent Green. Just eat it. jtuck004 Jun 2015 #24

The familiar strains of hifiguy Jun 2015 #13

Lol. People still whining that the single payer unicorn geek tragedy Jun 2015 #14

I was more concerned with his secret negotiations with the big drug companies.. raindaddy Jun 2015 #29

That's our political system. geek tragedy Jun 2015 #30

I see you have a Bernie banner... raindaddy Jun 2015 #32

Bernie lives in the real world. geek tragedy Jun 2015 #67

So as president Bernie wouldn't engage in corrupt politics? raindaddy Jun 2015 #75

To be blunt, Bernie doesn't win unless there's a dramatic upheaval in American politics. geek tragedy Jun 2015 #76

The fact is the system is based on a sum total of the actions.. raindaddy Jun 2015 #82

you're making the legislation an either-or, if some corporation benefits or is involved geek tragedy Jun 2015 #87

Give me a break! I don't believe you believe what you're saying! raindaddy Jun 2015 #93

Were you paying attention in 1994? geek tragedy Jun 2015 #95

You're simply making excuses... raindaddy Jun 2015 #100

how much high-stakes legislation have you gotten passed in a legislative body? nt geek tragedy Jun 2015 #111

This is just all too complex for the general. public to understand, right? raindaddy Jun 2015 #117

The general public still doesn't understand how the ACA, or our health system, works nt geek tragedy Jun 2015 #119

They also don't understand how poorly they're being represented raindaddy Jun 2015 #122

Factually Incorrect Rilgin Jun 2015 #123

HIAA wasn't the mom and pop insurance association. geek tragedy Jun 2015 #124

Big Insurance Rilgin Jun 2015 #160

HIAA still represented 1/3 of the market and was opposed to any reform or limits geek tragedy Jun 2015 #162

Good to known and it totally makes sense ... raindaddy Jun 2015 #137

"Sanders: Single Payer Never Had A Chance" What!? Will they listen to Sanders?!! Cha Jun 2015 #42

He and I are in agreement on about 90% of issues groundloop Jun 2015 #19

It's a shame he didn't put as much effort into single payer as he did TPP. n/t lumberjack_jeff Jun 2015 #20

It's a shame people are still living in a fantasy world geek tragedy Jun 2015 #21

Yes, he would have.. too bad the fantasy of "single payer" trumps reality for those bashing the Cha Jun 2015 #43

that remark might make sense about the public option treestar Jun 2015 #66

Agreed. Lately my typos come in phrases. Sorry 'bout that. lumberjack_jeff Jun 2015 #74

You never loved him! PowerToThePeople Jun 2015 #22

I have no longer glinda Jun 2015 #27

He's playing 12 dimensional chess, Pharaoh Jun 2015 #28

I'm surprised more people who post here don't have a more realistic understanding of him tech3149 Jun 2015 #31

I love Obama the person, but Obama the President has been pissing me off dorkzilla Jun 2015 #33

I love the President. He's earned my trust and respect. Cha Jun 2015 #44

I respect him too, and I trust that he thinks he�s doing what�s best dorkzilla Jun 2015 #59

I agree, I think he does believe it is going to be good for America LondonReign2 Jun 2015 #99

I remember in 2008-2009 we had a supermajority AngryDem001 Jun 2015 #37

public option passed the house questionseverything Jun 2015 #40

Oh Jeez. AngryDem001 Jun 2015 #121

Some of us progressives were talking about doing away with the 60-vote-for-closure BS truebluegreen Jun 2015 #155

so based on this thread allinthegame Jun 2015 #38

Do you think Romney could have gotten the TTP passed into law? dreamnightwind Jun 2015 #46

So you do wish Obama had lost to Romney? geek tragedy Jun 2015 #48

wow that is really low dreamnightwind Jun 2015 #53

So you don't endorse racism, you merely condone it geek tragedy Jun 2015 #70

So far Obama has not "gotten the TTP passed into law" either - just fast track. Do I think Romney pampango Jun 2015 #50

Your first point is pretty much academic dreamnightwind Jun 2015 #54

Fast track removes the filibuster. So the TPP will pass easily. (nt) jeff47 Jun 2015 #71

The odds are certainly greatly improved. Nonetheless, "so far Obama has not 'gotten the TTP passed pampango Jun 2015 #78

I don't. Of the 13 TPA voting Democratic Senators, 6 voted for both NAFTA and CAFTA and are Bluenorthwest Jun 2015 #58

A few points in response to that... dreamnightwind Jun 2015 #61

At least under McCain or Romney, Democrats would fight the bullshit Maedhros Jun 2015 #104

I think there were plenty of signs during his first campaign... MadDAsHell Jun 2015 #39

Maybe YOUR vote was, but MY vote was for: bvar22 Jun 2015 #145

It's ok, not many people like 'Stinky Clowns' either Sunlei Jun 2015 #51

If TPP is his "legacy" I feel sorry for him CanonRay Jun 2015 #62

TPP, ACA, DADT repeal, DOMA struck down, ending the original wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, Cuba Renew Deal Jun 2015 #77

The TPP is nothing treestar Jun 2015 #64

Right WI_DEM Jun 2015 #69

If it's nothing, why burn all that political capital to get it? (nt) jeff47 Jun 2015 #73

Hope you are right, but think you are wrong. CanonRay Jun 2015 #83

Single payer was not going to happen. Bayh, Lieberman, both Nelsons, Laudreau, and other blue dogs still_one Jun 2015 #79

One is not like the other HassleCat Jun 2015 #80

This message was self-deleted by its author PotatoChip Jun 2015 #81

Exactly my feelings. abakan Jun 2015 #107

Yet the Kool-Aid drinkers ignore the facts hifiguy Jun 2015 #118

I can't believe he is working with the GOP (anyone remember those assholes?) on a deal Rex Jun 2015 #86

It's chess. Octafish Jun 2015 #101

So are all the rooks, bishops and knights. Rex Jun 2015 #103

I am very, very, very disappointed in The President Auggie Jun 2015 #102

every single "accomplishment" has been corporate friendly Doctor_J Jun 2015 #106

It would almost have been better to have an R in office FiveGoodMen Jun 2015 #108

Puhleez-That's ridiculous redstateblues Jun 2015 #152

True. The hijacking started with Clinton and is now complete. polichick Jun 2015 #110

A lot of people are finally seeing the con in the man... polichick Jun 2015 #109

FFS Action_Patrol Jun 2015 #112

Nah, same group is getting all fluttery over yet another Warm Purple Centrist right now Fumesucker Jun 2015 #147

Unless you're an economist, you have no idea what effect TPP will have. randome Jun 2015 #120

You don't have to be an economist to understand.. raindaddy Jun 2015 #125

Except that is alarmist B.S. ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #128

Right global corporations aren't interested in overturning laws... raindaddy Jun 2015 #135

I didn't say that ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #141

You could say the same exact thing about our elected reps raindaddy Jun 2015 #148

No ... there is no comparison between ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #150

Thanks, but I trust Elizabeth Warren on this one raindaddy Jun 2015 #158

Alarmist bullshit. I expect better from Warren. randome Jun 2015 #164

One company over another? raindaddy Jun 2015 #168

Well ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #165

Well.... raindaddy Jun 2015 #167

Did you read the polling questions ... particularly, the trade question? 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #169

Yea, CBS and the New York times has an anti TPP agenda.. How do you think these question would poll? raindaddy Jun 2015 #170

True, the actual point is to muddy the waters so you don't understand. Rex Jun 2015 #130

Like I said: Obama, being the most intelligent President, we have ever had... randome Jun 2015 #163

Why anyone would trust any politician who doesn't want you to see the legislation raindaddy Jun 2015 #166

Get over the single payer shit. Even Bernie Sanders said they were like 10 votes max in the Senate.. phleshdef Jun 2015 #131

my problems started when he didn't stick up for Rev. Wright . olddots Jun 2015 #136

He doesn't stick up for people who aren't politically useful. TwilightGardener Jun 2015 #144

He has been a disappointment. AngryOldDem Jun 2015 #146