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Le Taz Hot

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17. Again, I disagree.

Wed Jun 24, 2015, 10:21 PM

Jun 2015

There are a lot disaffected people out there who are turned off because of the same old pre-canned candidates who will say anything in order to get elected knowing full well that once they get in they'll jump to the corporate maters' tune. And then there's Bernie who is the antithesis of all that with a LONG record to back up everything he is saying.

Now, the Masters of the Universe recognizing Bernie is a real threat IS something to be very worried about. They've got all the Big Artillery and all we have is us, feet on the ground, and a groundswell recognition that something has to change or our Democracy will be forever lost. That's powerful stuff in and of itself and has been the basis for every social and economic revolution for centuries.

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If Bernie is serious about winning, he needs to go negative. [View all] morningfog Jun 2015 OP

Right, because you and others doing it here has converted so many Hillary supporters. stevenleser Jun 2015 #1

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No Hillary supporters on DU are changing camps morningfog Jun 2015 #5

+1 Go Vols Jun 2015 #53

if YOU think it is a bad idea, I may need to reconsider my position! virtualobserver Jun 2015 #24

By all means. Please proceed! nt stevenleser Jun 2015 #25

Couldn't agree more kcjohn1 Jun 2015 #2

I disagree. Le Taz Hot Jun 2015 #4

Until she is force to respond to him as a threat.", morningfog Jun 2015 #7

Again, I disagree. Le Taz Hot Jun 2015 #17

That's so well stated I feel like sending it to my mom who is on the fence. Gregorian Jun 2015 #30

The same "corporate friendly record" that got her 18 million votes in 2008? brooklynite Jun 2015 #57

No his strength is being who he is and he is not a negative person Kalidurga Jun 2015 #6

Yes, but he does challenge the status quo. RiverLover Jun 2015 #18

I must disagree virtualobserver Jun 2015 #8

I know that is the strategy, but I am not confident it will be enough. morningfog Jun 2015 #11

He has to win without damaging Hillary for the general virtualobserver Jun 2015 #29

If he wins, there is no Hillary for the general, that is the point. morningfog Jun 2015 #34

I understand what you are saying virtualobserver Jun 2015 #52

Walker has the big pair of funders and Hillary has her big funders. They are all over glinda Jun 2015 #36

The whole fallacy of damaging a candidate for the GE is ridiculous davidpdx Jun 2015 #45

Her campaign is putting paid staffers in all fifty states. LuvLoogie Jun 2015 #48

He can just keep quiet Aerows Jun 2015 #9

If he goes negative it will make him look desperate. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #10

Not if he does it right. morningfog Jun 2015 #14

There is no good way to go negative and it will come off as desperate. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #16

Again, by negative I do not mean the type of stuff the republicans do. morningfog Jun 2015 #31

We shall se. He m7ght be able to pull off the compare and contrast. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #35

Absolutely. It is in her interest to coast on her lead. morningfog Jun 2015 #38

It's too early first off. Secondly negative ads are for when people are close on the issues. He can craigmatic Jun 2015 #12

maybe he thinks people will support omalley instead JI7 Jun 2015 #13

At the beginning thus follows the end seveneyes Jun 2015 #15

He has stated may times that he won't G_j Jun 2015 #19

This is the only way he'll get serious media attention, and more name recognition. RiverLover Jun 2015 #20

Because nasty primary fights are what will lead the Democratic Party to victory? BlueCheese Jun 2015 #21

What I like is he is right on the issues and speaks the truth. morningfog Jun 2015 #23

I shouldn't have been snarky in the title of my reply. I apologize for that. BlueCheese Jun 2015 #26

Apology not required, but graciously accepted. morningfog Jun 2015 #28

He may need someone else to do the negativity. BlueCheese Jun 2015 #37

Like a surrogate? Historic NY Jun 2015 #41

I do not want him to go negative. PowerToThePeople Jun 2015 #22

Yep! And he should avoid funny hats. Otherwise, it's the message. immoderate Jun 2015 #32

He is going plenty negative ... Trajan Jun 2015 #27

The momentum is left this time. He's tugging her left. He could be nominated VP to avoid a split Monk06 Jun 2015 #33

She is going left because she wants to win. Does not mean I believe her. Bernie glinda Jun 2015 #39

He doesn't need to go negative, he just needs to have Hillary face him in a debate. Maedhros Jun 2015 #40

If SOS Clinton starts tracking to the left it's all fake. onecaliberal Jun 2015 #42

"Calling her out" might be a better way of putting it. Smarmie Doofus Jun 2015 #43

Senator Sanders is drawing the biggest crowds of any candidate on either side of the isle. onecaliberal Jun 2015 #44

You said it better. morningfog Jun 2015 #54

I would say he has to make a clearer distinction between his stances and that of Hillary Clinton's davidpdx Jun 2015 #46

If he does that when he is so far behind in the polls... Adrahil Jun 2015 #47

Here's what Bernie has to say about such. herding cats Jun 2015 #49

No, no a thousand times no mikehiggins Jun 2015 #50

That is what the debates are for - assuming the DNC asks the right questions. jwirr Jun 2015 #51

Agressive issue-based challenges are NOT "going negative"!! n/t eridani Jun 2015 #55

No, he doesn't need to. HappyMe Jun 2015 #56

oh my is this a criticism of how Bernie is handling his campaign? treestar Jun 2015 #58

I know independent thought may be a foreign concept for you. morningfog Jun 2015 #59

Why do you say independent thought is a foreign concept for me? treestar Jun 2015 #60

What if? Nothing. I have no say in this. morningfog Jun 2015 #62

I disagree deutsey Jun 2015 #61

His message will take him far, but until Hillary is using his name, morningfog Jun 2015 #63

I see what you're saying deutsey Jun 2015 #64

Bernie just needs to keep on being Bernie madokie Jun 2015 #65

I think he needs to contrast his record with Clinton's. Vattel Jun 2015 #66

I strongly disagree. Negative campaigning is part of what voters are sick of, it is one of the Bluenorthwest Jun 2015 #67

I'm being misunderstood on my use of negative. morningfog Jun 2015 #69

But it's just not a ring. It's not a binary contest nor is it linear and compartmentalized like a Bluenorthwest Jun 2015 #72

"Hillary hopes to passively coast to a primary win." NCTraveler Jun 2015 #68

Should he bring up Benghazi? (nt) Nye Bevan Jun 2015 #70

And another response who didn't read the op. No, morningfog Jun 2015 #71