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BlueStreak

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44. You have to keep "explaining" it because it isn't true.
Thu Jun 25, 2015, 12:10 AM
Jun 2015

The Clintons are Center-Right triangulators. Hillary is to the right of Obama, and he is far to the right of mainstream America.

What we have here is a case where we know exactly where the public stands on a broad spectrum of issues from gun control, climate change, wall street accountability, family planning, foreign trade agreements, investment in education, investment in infrastructure, the roles of the various states and quasi-states in the Middle East, tax fairness, health care and many other issues. People like Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders are branded (by the corporate-controlled media) as being radicals, but in fact, their positions are very much in line with the broad American public on almost all of these issues. Even Rand Paul is closer to the American public on some of those issues than either Obama or the Clintons.

That's how I perceive it anyway, and I don't think I am alone on that. I suppose there is time for Hillary to redefine herself but I don't think that is the political advice she will be receiving. Clearly she hopes to not have to take any progressive/populist positions and slide through the primary process as if it were a coronation. My goal is to do everything I can to force her to actually participate in the process and be accountable for real positions.

Again, I know why I should support Bernie. I have no idea why I should support Hillary. I don't dislike her. I just don't see any commitment from her to fight for the things that are most important to me.

Let me remind everyone that we won control over all three branches when Obama was campaigning for serious changes. We lost 2 of the three branches because of Obama's record of timidity. We will not win back either house with a timid candidate.

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That could work. immoderate Jun 2015 #1
To win in the general election he absolutely needs the base. randys1 Jun 2015 #2
I think Bernie will win over supporters from very unexpected demographics Grilled Charlie Jun 2015 #3
Saul of Taurus, is that you? FSogol Jun 2015 #4
I do too. azmom Jun 2015 #5
No you're not. Avalux Jun 2015 #6
Great read at that link. Thank you. nt SaranchaIsWaiting Jun 2015 #12
Bernie is poilling 15% in the polls that I have seen Gothmog Jun 2015 #7
Money = free speech model Grilled Charlie Jun 2015 #10
Primary votes depend on polls of the state you are voting in. So at the moment the only polls that jwirr Jun 2015 #20
. MohRokTah Jun 2015 #8
This guy. /\ Ed Suspicious Jun 2015 #31
Are you having fun? passiveporcupine Jun 2015 #34
This town needs an enema. BeanMusical Jun 2015 #42
Bernie just needs to be Bernie... lame54 Jun 2015 #9
He absolutely needs to win over Hillary voters dreamnightwind Jun 2015 #11
Worked for Ross Perot. He pulled new voters to the polls. McCamy Taylor Jun 2015 #13
Who are "Hillary voters"? BlueStreak Jun 2015 #14
+1! n/t RoccoR5955 Jun 2015 #18
You got that right! Aerows Jun 2015 #21
"...we might as well have a woman in the mix." Lost me. Fred Sanders Jun 2015 #25
I'm saying, at this point, I don't see any particular reason BlueStreak Jun 2015 #40
Your perception of Clinton on the political spectrum is severely skewed, which is why such opinions can not be Fred Sanders Jun 2015 #43
You have to keep "explaining" it because it isn't true. BlueStreak Jun 2015 #44
92% of Democrats that's who. leftofcool Jun 2015 #26
Rather than responding to my subject line, please read the full text. BlueStreak Jun 2015 #41
I'm sorry, I wasn't clear I'm only trying to talk about the primary here. hootinholler Jun 2015 #39
I think you have a good point, hoot. hifiguy Jun 2015 #15
that would mean he would need non democratic voters JI7 Jun 2015 #16
I think that Mrs. Clinton's supporters will come around RoccoR5955 Jun 2015 #17
Res ipsa loquitur DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #19
If we're able to get Bernie's message out, he'll do well with independents, too. PatrickforO Jun 2015 #22
I am a reigstered Independent and I will re-register as a Democrat avebury Jun 2015 #23
Exactly what my wife and I did. Fuddnik Jun 2015 #32
No doubt in my mind madokie Jun 2015 #24
O'Malley doesn't need to convert them either. HRC voters will vote for the nominee, whosoever MADem Jun 2015 #27
his plan is that it's the 60-70% of Americans that the parties have left behind that he's targeting MisterP Jun 2015 #28
this TPP vote heaven05 Jun 2015 #29
I think he needs to get some, not a lot. RDANGELO Jun 2015 #30
A new MSNBC analyst is born on the DU Omaha Steve Jun 2015 #33
IMHO, I don't want to convert Hillary voters who really know who she is and what she stands for. Cleita Jun 2015 #35
Yeah, but don't you know Dems have to win Florida??? Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2015 #38
Unfortunately, you aren't the only one who believes that crap! AllTooEasy Jun 2015 #36
I met some Hillary voters who said she had BETTER win this time or ELSE.... Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2015 #37
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