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147. I'm fine with taking them out of government or even public spaces and put into museums where they

Reply to ncjustice80 (Reply #136)

Thu Jun 25, 2015, 12:43 AM

Jun 2015

truly belong.

But when they talk about bulldozing graves and such.....that's just disrespect for humanity in general.

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Gonna drive by a reservation on your way to tell folks how racist the Confederate flag is? [View all] jtuck004 Jun 2015 OP

Thank you. The anti-South hysteria on this board is getting out of hand. Coventina Jun 2015 #1

A friggen men. tymorial Jun 2015 #3

This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Jun 2015 #21

America's south isn't hateful and racist like that damn flag is, it has hateful racist people uponit7771 Jun 2015 #26

LOL, we all did bad things so lets keep the racist flag???? Nt Logical Jun 2015 #57

I didn't say that at all. I think the Stars & Bars is completely inappropriate in any context but a Coventina Jun 2015 #58

Are you saying the south is not more racist that the rest of the country? Nt Logical Jun 2015 #96

You know what? I don't live there, never have lived there, and have rarely visited. Coventina Jun 2015 #99

I am saying that. Leontius Jun 2015 #162

The South is not more racist than the North Man from Pickens Jun 2015 #177

I heard some pretty bad stories about the area around Fort Drum JonLP24 Jun 2015 #182

I was born and raised in South Arkansas. Around a lot of racists and red necks. LiberalArkie Jun 2015 #103

In his autobiography, Malcolm X stated he preferred southern racists to northern racists... KansDem Jun 2015 #176

I knew s lot of black people who made their money in the north especially Detroit and out in Califor LiberalArkie Jun 2015 #178

I concur Man from Pickens Jun 2015 #184

Par for the course. NaturalHigh Jun 2015 #131

Just all the monuments and idols to the traitorous slave owning bastards. n/t ncjustice80 Jun 2015 #136

I'm fine with taking them out of government or even public spaces and put into museums where they Coventina Jun 2015 #147

Not museums. They don't deserve that type of respect. ncjustice80 Jun 2015 #164

Well, then you should be outside protesting just about every military museum in existence. Coventina Jun 2015 #165

Destroying their disgusting monuments isn't "erasing history." ncjustice80 Jun 2015 #166

If you put all Confederate flags through the shredder, as you stated, that would be erasing history Coventina Jun 2015 #167

No it isn't. They have no merit. n/t ncjustice80 Jun 2015 #168

Well, again, I fully expect to see you protesting at the USS Arizona Memorial Coventina Jun 2015 #169

Love your point tymorial Jun 2015 #2

In point of fact, according to The Oxford Companion to American Military History... malthaussen Jun 2015 #14

The New York riots were fun Prism Jun 2015 #41

NYC Civil War Race Riots HockeyMom Jun 2015 #85

The IWW insisted that people of color be allowed to join. More than a few left for the AF of L jtuck004 Jun 2015 #91

+1 Pooka Fey Jun 2015 #116

Rushbo, the drug addict, predicted liberals would go after the American flag next. randys1 Jun 2015 #4

I use to hate when the nuns in Catholic school upaloopa Jun 2015 #5

My Dad's family came from England in 1886 HockeyMom Jun 2015 #16

I'm only a teeny-tiny bit English, but I have a couch cushion with a Union Jack on it. Coventina Jun 2015 #24

I only fly the Stars and Stripes upaloopa Jun 2015 #33

If I may navarth Jun 2015 #27

You can feel what you want. What is truth upaloopa Jun 2015 #35

Not be real? navarth Jun 2015 #38

I have no control over how the past benefits me upaloopa Jun 2015 #56

Your implications navarth Jun 2015 #67

Yes upaloopa Jun 2015 #76

pls see post 121 navarth Jun 2015 #122

You say we have benefited from misdeeds of others upaloopa Jun 2015 #130

So navarth Jun 2015 #134

I am not responsible for other people's past actions upaloopa Jun 2015 #135

well.... navarth Jun 2015 #142

Yes, you are. MicaelS Jun 2015 #100

So you both think I am correct in saying navarth Jun 2015 #121

Some people immigrated here due to treestar Jun 2015 #172

Um, navarth Jun 2015 #175

I used to feel like you, especially since I wasn't even born in this country but to an ex-pat dad. Cleita Jun 2015 #67

Confederate flags first. We'll burn the other ones later. nt Zorra Jun 2015 #6

LOL dreamnightwind Jun 2015 #126

+1 DawgHouse Jun 2015 #7

The last people actively fighting for the CSA were Native Americans, led by a Cherokee . . . Journeyman Jun 2015 #8

There is no doubt that the goal was genocide from the very beginning. That is clearly seen in what jwirr Jun 2015 #9

I always believed reparations should be made to both African Americans and Cleita Jun 2015 #10

And Hawaiians Coventina Jun 2015 #11

Yes, of course. They need to be included too. Cleita Jun 2015 #13

Cleita for prez! Coventina Jun 2015 #15

Thanks, but I would make a piss poor President. eom Cleita Jun 2015 #17

How about an advisory position? Coventina Jun 2015 #18

That I could do but no one would listen to me. Cleita Jun 2015 #20

I know what you mean. Coventina Jun 2015 #23

There is a Bernie Group. If you favor him, there is no sniping and a lot of good information. eom Cleita Jun 2015 #45

Thanks! I'll check it out! n/t Coventina Jun 2015 #51

+1 for Bernie and for Cleita. nt navarth Jun 2015 #29

huh? Kali Jun 2015 #12

Reference of a historical event? Bradical79 Jun 2015 #22

well that would be kind of gross but not exactly cannibalism Kali Jun 2015 #25

Corrected below by TheKentuckian Bradical79 Jun 2015 #32

I thought that was Davey Crockett and they ate the potatoes and roots in the cellar TheKentuckian Jun 2015 #133

Ah yes, that's right. I got 3 separate stories mixed up in my head :-P Bradical79 Jun 2015 #170

Yup, all kinds of foul deeds by our hero's (minus sleepy hollow, I guess) TheKentuckian Jun 2015 #179

Girl’s Bones Bear Signs of Cannibalism by Starving Virginia Colonists jtuck004 Jun 2015 #64

there was cannibalism in the New World before Europeans arrived Kali Jun 2015 #123

I was taken aback by that comment too deutsey Jun 2015 #160

Yes, history is complex and none of our ancestors are bloodless Bradical79 Jun 2015 #19

This exactly JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #158

And of course Native Americans never fought among each other or had slaves.... n2doc Jun 2015 #28

Good ole Human Nature navarth Jun 2015 #30

Imagine salimbag Jun 2015 #42

the original inhabitants, plants and animals, must have hated when humans showed up. then msongs Jun 2015 #37

Ask a woolly mammoth about Humans n2doc Jun 2015 #54

lol.. there was another shark attack yesterday... ms liberty Jun 2015 #159

Translation: Whatever an issue is, it can be used to attack DUers and liberals! FSogol Jun 2015 #31

America Sucks and Everything is Obama's Fault Democat Jun 2015 #43

And do you see a lot of people here edhopper Jun 2015 #34

This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Jun 2015 #46

Is that today? edhopper Jun 2015 #62

People are living on the land, have profited from the murder of those people. Today, jtuck004 Jun 2015 #75

It is edhopper Jun 2015 #79

That is my point. Thank you. n/t jtuck004 Jun 2015 #80

But it's existence edhopper Jun 2015 #83

Yup, yup. Let's shove the flagstick in a pile of bones from people we murdered before we salute it. jtuck004 Jun 2015 #87

uh? edhopper Jun 2015 #113

Neither needs a pass. n/t jtuck004 Jun 2015 #114

Okay thanks edhopper Jun 2015 #129

Oh for fuck's sake. NuclearDem Jun 2015 #36

I've lived in the South for 21 years. sulphurdunn Jun 2015 #39

I am good evidence for that. I lived there for about my first 50 years. Had to find some place jtuck004 Jun 2015 #88

So all that, just so we will feel bad and leave the Rebel Flag alone? Rex Jun 2015 #40

"Sure, the South needs to finally surrender, and that flag needs to come down." LWolf Jun 2015 #44

Yeah one line of lip service is really convincing. Rex Jun 2015 #52

One line or twenty, LWolf Jun 2015 #60

This has got to be one of the strangest OPs Ive ever seen. bunnies Jun 2015 #47

We've got to leave the Rebel Flag alone, because of the way we treated the Native Americans. Rex Jun 2015 #53

And dead horses? bunnies Jun 2015 #70

Good question, they are piled up so high we cannot get out the door! Rex Jun 2015 #73

lol. Ill fetch the tractor. bunnies Jun 2015 #77

Don't eat people? When did this start? Rex Jun 2015 #81

Just toss it in the horse pile. bunnies Jun 2015 #86

Thanks! Rex Jun 2015 #90

Well hey... bunnies Jun 2015 #94

True, can't drive to the local gas station without seeing people eating bodyparts on the side of the Rex Jun 2015 #95

Some people have no decency. bunnies Jun 2015 #97

Wow, we agree on something? stevenleser Jun 2015 #139

Did I miss Cosmocat Jun 2015 #59

I was wondering the same thing. bunnies Jun 2015 #72

odd OP, odd timing - but not really, I guess. I've lost the plot around here recently NRaleighLiberal Jun 2015 #65

You and me both. bunnies Jun 2015 #74

don't scratch too hard...you'll lose your flapjack! NRaleighLiberal Jun 2015 #78

! bunnies Jun 2015 #82

The cannibalism reference and horse slaughter example were puzzling deutsey Jun 2015 #161

Yes that is another part of American history Warren Stupidity Jun 2015 #48

I prefer to fly the flag of Nutopia. Crowman1979 Jun 2015 #49

I know of no "Sons of the Indain Fighters" group, nor are any of us out brewens Jun 2015 #50

No kidding. blackspade Jun 2015 #108

Uh, you realize the people already "went around with guns", and many of their victims died in the jtuck004 Jun 2015 #117

Not sure what you were getting at unless you completely missed the point brewens Jun 2015 #125

We all live here after our ancestors murdered the people who lived here and took their homes jtuck004 Jun 2015 #132

I like seeing the Nez Perce people a few years back wearing these Treaty of 1855 jackets, brewens Jun 2015 #149

"...my house payment started going to the tribe instead of the bank" - Now there is an interesting jtuck004 Jun 2015 #150

...my other favorites are Pirate flags. Crowman1979 Jun 2015 #55

At least Pirates are honest thieves. n/t jtuck004 Jun 2015 #84

If you're going to try and justify flying the Dixie Swastika SwankyXomb Jun 2015 #61

nice distraction and deflection pasto76 Jun 2015 #63

You profited, as we all still do, from the violent acts of racism of others. Fortunately for you jtuck004 Jun 2015 #69

I agree with them and I have native American blood on one side and holocaust survivor on the other stevenleser Jun 2015 #140

You're making me think of that treestar Jun 2015 #173

Heh. Iggo Jun 2015 #66

We just don't learn... n/t jtuck004 Jun 2015 #93

kick Angry Dragon Jun 2015 #71

“Flags are bits of colored cloth that governments use first to shrink-wrap people’s minds Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2015 #89

Thank you for this.n/t jtuck004 Jun 2015 #92

Excellent point. Blue_In_AK Jun 2015 #98

!! Jack Rabbit Jun 2015 #101

I think that's also the flag of Chase Bank now...n/t jtuck004 Jun 2015 #115

I hope not Jack Rabbit Jun 2015 #119

They would make it look bad. Little more than pig feed, Dimon is. n/t jtuck004 Jun 2015 #120

So the ultimate goal of those opposed to the Confederate flag... BKH70041 Jun 2015 #102

One has to feel sorry for English after reading this. n/t jtuck004 Jun 2015 #105

English were oppressors, too. BKH70041 Jun 2015 #107

Not "the" English. <G> n/t jtuck004 Jun 2015 #109

Yes, "the" English. BKH70041 Jun 2015 #110

Thank you. You just made my day. <G> n/t jtuck004 Jun 2015 #112

HORSES? Didn't the Spanish bring horses to America? MADem Jun 2015 #104

Damn there are some smart people here. No sarcasm at all. n/t jtuck004 Jun 2015 #106

What the hell did I just read? dorkzilla Jun 2015 #111

You and me both REP Jun 2015 #118

Do you blame Asians for the tens of millions of Europeans who died from the plagues? ieoeja Jun 2015 #124

According to the most recent genetic testing, disease wiped out most Native Americans LittleBlue Jun 2015 #127

Huh. wonder why the British wrote of giving them smallpox laden material and hoping it jtuck004 Jun 2015 #146

That has nothing to do with what I wrote LittleBlue Jun 2015 #151

Genetics don't lie. People do though, and they create things to support their stories. And sometimes jtuck004 Jun 2015 #154

A thread I just saw here on Stone Mt reminded me of Mt Rushmore countryjake Jun 2015 #128

My country tis of thy people struggle4progress Jun 2015 #137

This is a ridiculous OP. The Confederacy can't be racist because of what the US did to Native stevenleser Jun 2015 #138

+1 treestar Jun 2015 #180

Where did you get the idea that calling the Confederate Flag racist means not caring Ken Burch Jun 2015 #141

Generally speaking people talk about what they care about. And in post after post after post jtuck004 Jun 2015 #144

I agree with everything you've said there. Ken Burch Jun 2015 #148

Kinda like the Chataqua. I think that is a great idea. It's how the wobblies used to jtuck004 Jun 2015 #153

What country romanic Jun 2015 #143

So, you got yours, fuck everyone else? Sure you are in the right place? Wait, you are. n/t jtuck004 Jun 2015 #145

I guess I am in the right place. romanic Jun 2015 #156

We took the bike through Washington, Oregon, the Dakotas.......... raven mad Jun 2015 #152

This is in Washington Juicy_Bellows Jun 2015 #155

I did not know about that. Thank you! n/t jtuck004 Jun 2015 #174

The current US flag is better than the Confederate Stars and Bars and the Nazi Germany flag steve2470 Jun 2015 #157

humbling... heaven05 Jun 2015 #163

By that metric no flag should ever be flown treestar Jun 2015 #171

The Stars and Stripes, unlike the Confederate flag, has never stood for slavery. n/t pnwmom Jun 2015 #181

I've always thought the wrongs to Native Americans, were most understated, in relative terms HFRN Jun 2015 #183