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cr8tvlde

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109. Think you're drinking the RW KoolAid. No one's hating. Just stating facts.

Tue May 15, 2012, 04:23 PM

May 2012

Facts. Mitt had 12 great grandmothers. Fact. Democrats don't "unite Mormons" They are no fools. Are we hating when we ask Mitt to reveal his tax returns? Are we hating when calling Mitt a rich guy? Are we hating when we point out he hasn't any plan for our country?

Accountability, character and past record and the liklihood of official positions/acts are PRECISELY what we are to do our due diligence. How many times can we say SCOTUS...it's worth getting out of our Liberal Comfort Zone.

People, mostly Progressives (who used to be called Liberals) are so judged by the faux labels "hating and Bigotry" . It's the RWs trick. They attack with hating and bigotry...and accuse D's of the same. So we back off, accepting their label.

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Nothing should be left unturned....they hounded President Obama on his church, his wife, his race, [View all] demtenjeep May 2012 OP

I agree Politicalboi May 2012 #1

Be careful, Harry Reid is a Mormon too. xtraxritical May 2012 #96

If the Rethugs want to use Reid's Mormonism against him in Nevada CanonRay May 2012 #101

But no one's attacking Harry Reid. BlancheSplanchnik May 2012 #102

How and who cares if they do? TheKentuckian May 2012 #106

I think it's hilarious that DUers are actually sufrommich May 2012 #2

All religions are strange. jp11 May 2012 #4

+1 we can do it May 2012 #36

Not strange - - all religions are batshit insane Taverner May 2012 #39

You forgot about... RoccoR5955 May 2012 #99

so, veganlush May 2012 #103

They talk alright, but reccomending an apple? Puh-LEAZE! Taverner May 2012 #115

Strangest being those that are undefined. Zax2me May 2012 #53

A minority religion that bankrolled Prop 8. geek tragedy May 2012 #8

Many catholics and baptist hold the same view. You know sufrommich May 2012 #11

selective memory ... we attack Catholics and Baptists a lot here ... zbdent May 2012 #18

We attack individuals who use their religion for bigotry. sufrommich May 2012 #21

Very few are that blatant. Usually just a bit more subtle but specific religions do get called out. bluesbassman May 2012 #52

That's true Politicalboi May 2012 #19

We attack the religious leaders that hold those views progressoid May 2012 #71

They started with Prop 8 Politicalboi May 2012 #12

Two words eridani May 2012 #82

Campaign politics isn't nice. Marr May 2012 #86

If it upsets the fundies, I'm for it. JoePhilly May 2012 #89

I think it is hilarious azureblue May 2012 #107

I think his policies and politics are fair game quinnox May 2012 #3

so when repukes call Sasha and Malia Malaria and Sasquatch demtenjeep May 2012 #6

What does that have to do with attacking a whole faith? nt sufrommich May 2012 #7

That faith and many others Politicalboi May 2012 #15

You preach hate, you get hate. stonecutter357 May 2012 #112

did I say specifically a whole faith? I said it is time to fight fire with fire demtenjeep May 2012 #16

I really doubt they would do that in a nationwide ad or on a news show quinnox May 2012 #9

Instead of getting personal, we can prove to the public what Mittens will do to them personally! freshwest May 2012 #26

Anybody who says that is an ass RZM May 2012 #41

I don't think family members are necessarily off limits cali May 2012 #14

When Romney's wife stops trying to influence an election and lauds their family life aint_no_life_nowhere May 2012 #17

she is just doing what any wife would for her presidential candidate husband quinnox May 2012 #20

Nothing wrong with that and nothing wrong with calling her out on that aint_no_life_nowhere May 2012 #27

Yep. And the same goes for 'faith'. Once they use it in their politics, the same rules Bluenorthwest May 2012 #38

AND she was constantly attacked--and still is. nt tblue37 May 2012 #33

repukes are in it to win, they will stop at nothing demtenjeep May 2012 #5

I agree - they have openly threatened Obama far more than any US president. Initech May 2012 #10

Absolutely. Dawson Leery May 2012 #13

Magic Undies sarcasmo May 2012 #22

Why should we lower ourselves to the Repugs level? n/t RebelOne May 2012 #23

because if we do not win, we will be fucked demtenjeep May 2012 #24

Because if we do not win, unemployment will increase to 25-30%. And coalition_unwilling May 2012 #88

and if we do win, but we're no better than the repugs, then what have we won? nt StarryNight May 2012 #98

Why should we keep bringing knives to a gunfight? SpartanDem May 2012 #25

Ask President Gore or President Kerry jeff47 May 2012 #28

good point demtenjeep May 2012 #31

To win. n/t lumberjack_jeff May 2012 #79

If you aren't actually running a campaign, that's a fine position to take. Marr May 2012 #87

correct; but don't expect to find any support for taking the high road here. nt StarryNight May 2012 #97

Screw the high road SpartanDem May 2012 #29

Sorry, pal. Can't go there with you. longship May 2012 #30

So how many marshmallows are you going to bring to this gun fight? (nt) jeff47 May 2012 #32

I didn't know that facts and truth were marshmallows. longship May 2012 #44

You know what I despise? SpartanDem May 2012 #47

As a fellow Spartan longship May 2012 #77

This message was self-deleted by its author Kencorburn May 2012 #72

Unfortunately they are marshmallows. Reread your Lakoff eridani May 2012 #83

Gore and Kerry agreed with you. jeff47 May 2012 #92

agreed quinnox May 2012 #34

Obama and his campaign don't have to eridani May 2012 #84

No one's talking 'no holds barred' when they say his religious hypocrisy Bluenorthwest May 2012 #42

I have strenuously objected to OP, but you have a point longship May 2012 #49

It's quite possible that the Repukes savalez May 2012 #56

Well, because they've been saying that for years... longship May 2012 #60

So how much longer do you suggest we let them savalez May 2012 #66

Consider this and think longship May 2012 #81

There is zip shame in pointing out Rmoney's hyprocrisy EFerrari May 2012 #43

Yep. Of course I think all of Christianity is batshit insane with a double dose of moonbattery Taverner May 2012 #35

So does that mean you can't support a candidate who is a self-described Christian? onenote May 2012 #78

Agreed. That much seems obvious. bluerum May 2012 #37

k&r...they will smear Obama mercilessly in the next six months...kick ass spanone May 2012 #40

How can anybody who condemned those attacks turn around and do the same thing with a straight face? RZM May 2012 #45

Agreed, but likely all you're going to hear is a version of "but that's different." n/t. apocalypsehow May 2012 #46

Pretty much RZM May 2012 #48

It's different because we don't have to lie n/t eridani May 2012 #85

No, it's not. n/t. apocalypsehow May 2012 #114

Kick ass with the truth. Repuks attack with lies and misrepresentations. That is the difference Maineman May 2012 #51

Question; how is that moral authority going to taste if Mitt sits in the oval office? bluesbassman May 2012 #54

I didn't say don't go after him hard RZM May 2012 #59

I see your point now. bluesbassman May 2012 #64

Your "moral authority" isn't going to do shit for you Doctor_J May 2012 #61

See post #59 RZM May 2012 #69

No one is condoning making fun of the Mormon faith...and I never watch SP cr8tvlde May 2012 #76

I agree ... ctaylors6 May 2012 #63

As much as I practice civility, this is WAR. Gregorian May 2012 #50

Certainly. Dawson Leery May 2012 #58

We must fight fire with fire. We must fight as dirty as they do. Odin2005 May 2012 #55

better to fight fire with a fire extinguisher - like facts, logic, and morality. nt StarryNight May 2012 #100

Facts and logic don't work on the vast majority. Odin2005 May 2012 #105

You dang sure got that right madokie May 2012 #57

I do believe... kentuck May 2012 #62

Here's the problem - you're saying it was wrong then, but ok now. Skip Intro May 2012 #65

I am not just talking about religion I am saying we need to use everything we have demtenjeep May 2012 #67

I think the Wright episode was very different. This is hypocrisy. That was the media editing. Gregorian May 2012 #70

Obama had one great-great grandmother. Romney had 12. cr8tvlde May 2012 #68

That's only true on the President's mother's side RZM May 2012 #74

Unfortunately, that's the voting difference between R and D cr8tvlde May 2012 #75

Hounding Romney over his religious beliefs will not make Obama more likely to win re-election. Nye Bevan May 2012 #73

This is the only relevant question, but I think you're wrong. lumberjack_jeff May 2012 #80

I'm in your camp JustAnotherGen May 2012 #90

It's a never-ending cycle of bigotry then. noamnety May 2012 #91

How is it bigotry to question Romney's Riley18 May 2012 #93

What I've seen has gone beyond that already. noamnety May 2012 #94

Elect Mitt Romney President L. Coyote May 2012 #95

The attacks on President Obama are divisive, our attacks should be in favor of building coalitions. Zalatix May 2012 #104

Think you're drinking the RW KoolAid. No one's hating. Just stating facts. cr8tvlde May 2012 #109

Pension thief, Job cremator, Cultist, childhood Bully, Tax evader, animal cruelty ErikJ May 2012 #108

You should turn the other cheek... sulphurdunn May 2012 #110

They lost, though. Gore1FL May 2012 #111

I will not vote for a cult member. stonecutter357 May 2012 #113