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Rex

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85. The GOP loves them some TPP, so now we do to!?

Thu Jun 25, 2015, 12:43 PM

Jun 2015

No thanks, I never trust the GOP on anything. Most Dems voted against it in Congress...but Obama is for it, so we are for it?

No thanks, not me...it is poison for the labor force and these same GOPers that 'love' the POTUS now...will go right back to trying to destroy the ACA.

I can't believe he is working with the GOP on a horrible give away to Wall Street.

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I am not liking Obama very much these days [View all] Stinky The Clown Jun 2015 OP

These are definitely not his highest achievements. CaliforniaPeggy Jun 2015 #1

Post removed Post removed Jun 2015 #7

This message was self-deleted by its author geek tragedy Jun 2015 #15

Or maybe I'm just not a fan of his policies. nt hay rick Jun 2015 #17

This message was self-deleted by its author geek tragedy Jun 2015 #18

I can't believe the post above this one of yours customerserviceguy Jun 2015 #35

Wow, I can't believe it either dreamnightwind Jun 2015 #45

Racism should be hidden. geek tragedy Jun 2015 #49

Wow....off the rails. nt haikugal Jun 2015 #127

hey, if you think angry white people should be allowed to use Obama's race geek tragedy Jun 2015 #129

Are you one of Cornel Wests critics? haikugal Jun 2015 #133

Cornel West is the socialist Donald Trump. geek tragedy Jun 2015 #134

Back at ya.... haikugal Jun 2015 #139

And the jury results on your post is as follows: Spazito Jun 2015 #140

Funny thing is, same people think that the Obama comment wasn't racist. geek tragedy Jun 2015 #142

Yep, exactly n/t Spazito Jun 2015 #143

Funnier yet, some people think it was. cui bono Jun 2015 #157

It was racist and should have been 7-0 geek tragedy Jun 2015 #47

The post was NOT racist peacebird Jun 2015 #57

Um, the racist part was saying Obama was nothing more than geek tragedy Jun 2015 #63

Except the poster never said that. cui bono Jun 2015 #114

^Exactly this^ nt truebluegreen Jun 2015 #151

100% correct. hifiguy Jun 2015 #154

Me either, nothing said there was in any way hide worthy! Criticize HRC, get hidden? peacebird Jun 2015 #56

Did you even read the post? BeeBee Jun 2015 #105

Was it racist in 2008 when the country was celebrating bvar22 Jun 2015 #132

None of the above, thanks. BeeBee Jun 2015 #138

Did YOU even read the post? cui bono Jun 2015 #156

Confusing proof and evidence is indicative of bias. LanternWaste Jun 2015 #60

Very bad hide. nt haikugal Jun 2015 #126

I think it is foul that your post was hidden. SamKnause Jun 2015 #55

People who feel compelled to use the president's race geek tragedy Jun 2015 #65

There was nothing racist SamKnause Jun 2015 #68

Keep on digging. nt geek tragedy Jun 2015 #72

yep, he's digging a big ole hole Solomon Jun 2015 #97

I expect people to start paraphrasing Geraldine Ferraro pretty soon nt geek tragedy Jun 2015 #98

I noticed you deleted your post FALSELY accusing another of racism. hifiguy Jun 2015 #113

that post was not inaccurate. geek tragedy Jun 2015 #115

Perhpas you should have kept reading the thread? n/t Sheepshank Jun 2015 #116

Never was really high on him Peregrine Took Jun 2015 #2

Maybe you can collaborate with Bill Frist geek tragedy Jun 2015 #12

Exaggerate much? PT said nothing about mental issues. He snagglepuss Jun 2015 #23

Post removed Post removed Jun 2015 #26

"when we saw that Gemini moon in his chart" awoke_in_2003 Jun 2015 #34

Weird hide though. Is it some "code" or just zodiac crap? TheKentuckian Jun 2015 #159

I can't see why it was hidden... awoke_in_2003 Jun 2015 #161

Ralph Nader 2008! onehandle Jun 2015 #3

I saw this coming when he made Rahm Emmanuel his chief of staff at the beginnning... cascadiance Jun 2015 #4

Geithner was the real tipoff. hifiguy Jun 2015 #16

I think the tip-off was before that Art_from_Ark Jun 2015 #52

I agree: it was Geithner, and Summers. truebluegreen Jun 2015 #153

Yup! moonbeam23 Jun 2015 #25

Me either.. whathehell Jun 2015 #5

TPP is a renegotiation of NAFTA. geek tragedy Jun 2015 #11

Yes. Renegotiated to make it even more destructive. whathehell Jun 2015 #41

The GOP was all in favor of the TPP, so now we are all happy with the GOP? Rex Jun 2015 #84

I think the TPP is probably going to be a bad thing, but I think the harm is being geek tragedy Jun 2015 #88

The planet's spin has nothing to do with corporations having ruling power over nations. Rex Jun 2015 #89

No, he wanted this. Now he negotiates with the other 13 countries and tries to seal the deal. geek tragedy Jun 2015 #90

That is part of what I fear, it will tie our hands with corporate legal hocus pocus Rex Jun 2015 #91

The hypothesis is that if this didn't pass, the Chinese sphere of influence would grow geek tragedy Jun 2015 #94

And the WTO gives China 'most favored nation' with America, the TPP should be a monkey wrench. Rex Jun 2015 #96

Please! I'm not happy about TPP but haven't discussed it babylonsister Jun 2015 #6

The whole party should have been pushing for it awoke_in_2003 Jun 2015 #36

The GOP loves the TPP, that should be a red flag imo. Rex Jun 2015 #92

Very few people know that much about TPP because they avebury Jun 2015 #149

Return of the vampire seveneyes Jun 2015 #8

He ignored single payer way back when he started running for president in 2007. Skinner Jun 2015 #9

The GOP loves them some TPP, so now we do to!? Rex Jun 2015 #85

It will have an almost immediate, direct and profound impact on most people's lives FlatBaroque Jun 2015 #10

People don't need to know what's in their Soylent Green. Just eat it. jtuck004 Jun 2015 #24

The familiar strains of hifiguy Jun 2015 #13

Lol. People still whining that the single payer unicorn geek tragedy Jun 2015 #14

I was more concerned with his secret negotiations with the big drug companies.. raindaddy Jun 2015 #29

That's our political system. geek tragedy Jun 2015 #30

I see you have a Bernie banner... raindaddy Jun 2015 #32

Bernie lives in the real world. geek tragedy Jun 2015 #67

So as president Bernie wouldn't engage in corrupt politics? raindaddy Jun 2015 #75

To be blunt, Bernie doesn't win unless there's a dramatic upheaval in American politics. geek tragedy Jun 2015 #76

The fact is the system is based on a sum total of the actions.. raindaddy Jun 2015 #82

you're making the legislation an either-or, if some corporation benefits or is involved geek tragedy Jun 2015 #87

Give me a break! I don't believe you believe what you're saying! raindaddy Jun 2015 #93

Were you paying attention in 1994? geek tragedy Jun 2015 #95

You're simply making excuses... raindaddy Jun 2015 #100

how much high-stakes legislation have you gotten passed in a legislative body? nt geek tragedy Jun 2015 #111

This is just all too complex for the general. public to understand, right? raindaddy Jun 2015 #117

The general public still doesn't understand how the ACA, or our health system, works nt geek tragedy Jun 2015 #119

They also don't understand how poorly they're being represented raindaddy Jun 2015 #122

Factually Incorrect Rilgin Jun 2015 #123

HIAA wasn't the mom and pop insurance association. geek tragedy Jun 2015 #124

Big Insurance Rilgin Jun 2015 #160

HIAA still represented 1/3 of the market and was opposed to any reform or limits geek tragedy Jun 2015 #162

Good to known and it totally makes sense ... raindaddy Jun 2015 #137

"Sanders: Single Payer Never Had A Chance" What!? Will they listen to Sanders?!! Cha Jun 2015 #42

He and I are in agreement on about 90% of issues groundloop Jun 2015 #19

It's a shame he didn't put as much effort into single payer as he did TPP. n/t lumberjack_jeff Jun 2015 #20

It's a shame people are still living in a fantasy world geek tragedy Jun 2015 #21

Yes, he would have.. too bad the fantasy of "single payer" trumps reality for those bashing the Cha Jun 2015 #43

that remark might make sense about the public option treestar Jun 2015 #66

Agreed. Lately my typos come in phrases. Sorry 'bout that. lumberjack_jeff Jun 2015 #74

You never loved him! PowerToThePeople Jun 2015 #22

I have no longer glinda Jun 2015 #27

He's playing 12 dimensional chess, Pharaoh Jun 2015 #28

I'm surprised more people who post here don't have a more realistic understanding of him tech3149 Jun 2015 #31

I love Obama the person, but Obama the President has been pissing me off dorkzilla Jun 2015 #33

I love the President. He's earned my trust and respect. Cha Jun 2015 #44

I respect him too, and I trust that he thinks he�s doing what�s best dorkzilla Jun 2015 #59

I agree, I think he does believe it is going to be good for America LondonReign2 Jun 2015 #99

I remember in 2008-2009 we had a supermajority AngryDem001 Jun 2015 #37

public option passed the house questionseverything Jun 2015 #40

Oh Jeez. AngryDem001 Jun 2015 #121

Some of us progressives were talking about doing away with the 60-vote-for-closure BS truebluegreen Jun 2015 #155

so based on this thread allinthegame Jun 2015 #38

Do you think Romney could have gotten the TTP passed into law? dreamnightwind Jun 2015 #46

So you do wish Obama had lost to Romney? geek tragedy Jun 2015 #48

wow that is really low dreamnightwind Jun 2015 #53

So you don't endorse racism, you merely condone it geek tragedy Jun 2015 #70

So far Obama has not "gotten the TTP passed into law" either - just fast track. Do I think Romney pampango Jun 2015 #50

Your first point is pretty much academic dreamnightwind Jun 2015 #54

Fast track removes the filibuster. So the TPP will pass easily. (nt) jeff47 Jun 2015 #71

The odds are certainly greatly improved. Nonetheless, "so far Obama has not 'gotten the TTP passed pampango Jun 2015 #78

I don't. Of the 13 TPA voting Democratic Senators, 6 voted for both NAFTA and CAFTA and are Bluenorthwest Jun 2015 #58

A few points in response to that... dreamnightwind Jun 2015 #61

At least under McCain or Romney, Democrats would fight the bullshit Maedhros Jun 2015 #104

I think there were plenty of signs during his first campaign... MadDAsHell Jun 2015 #39

Maybe YOUR vote was, but MY vote was for: bvar22 Jun 2015 #145

It's ok, not many people like 'Stinky Clowns' either Sunlei Jun 2015 #51

If TPP is his "legacy" I feel sorry for him CanonRay Jun 2015 #62

TPP, ACA, DADT repeal, DOMA struck down, ending the original wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, Cuba Renew Deal Jun 2015 #77

The TPP is nothing treestar Jun 2015 #64

Right WI_DEM Jun 2015 #69

If it's nothing, why burn all that political capital to get it? (nt) jeff47 Jun 2015 #73

Hope you are right, but think you are wrong. CanonRay Jun 2015 #83

Single payer was not going to happen. Bayh, Lieberman, both Nelsons, Laudreau, and other blue dogs still_one Jun 2015 #79

One is not like the other HassleCat Jun 2015 #80

This message was self-deleted by its author PotatoChip Jun 2015 #81

Exactly my feelings. abakan Jun 2015 #107

Yet the Kool-Aid drinkers ignore the facts hifiguy Jun 2015 #118

I can't believe he is working with the GOP (anyone remember those assholes?) on a deal Rex Jun 2015 #86

It's chess. Octafish Jun 2015 #101

So are all the rooks, bishops and knights. Rex Jun 2015 #103

I am very, very, very disappointed in The President Auggie Jun 2015 #102

every single "accomplishment" has been corporate friendly Doctor_J Jun 2015 #106

It would almost have been better to have an R in office FiveGoodMen Jun 2015 #108

Puhleez-That's ridiculous redstateblues Jun 2015 #152

True. The hijacking started with Clinton and is now complete. polichick Jun 2015 #110

A lot of people are finally seeing the con in the man... polichick Jun 2015 #109

FFS Action_Patrol Jun 2015 #112

Nah, same group is getting all fluttery over yet another Warm Purple Centrist right now Fumesucker Jun 2015 #147

Unless you're an economist, you have no idea what effect TPP will have. randome Jun 2015 #120

You don't have to be an economist to understand.. raindaddy Jun 2015 #125

Except that is alarmist B.S. ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #128

Right global corporations aren't interested in overturning laws... raindaddy Jun 2015 #135

I didn't say that ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #141

You could say the same exact thing about our elected reps raindaddy Jun 2015 #148

No ... there is no comparison between ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #150

Thanks, but I trust Elizabeth Warren on this one raindaddy Jun 2015 #158

Alarmist bullshit. I expect better from Warren. randome Jun 2015 #164

One company over another? raindaddy Jun 2015 #168

Well ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #165

Well.... raindaddy Jun 2015 #167

Did you read the polling questions ... particularly, the trade question? 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #169

Yea, CBS and the New York times has an anti TPP agenda.. How do you think these question would poll? raindaddy Jun 2015 #170

True, the actual point is to muddy the waters so you don't understand. Rex Jun 2015 #130

Like I said: Obama, being the most intelligent President, we have ever had... randome Jun 2015 #163

Why anyone would trust any politician who doesn't want you to see the legislation raindaddy Jun 2015 #166

Get over the single payer shit. Even Bernie Sanders said they were like 10 votes max in the Senate.. phleshdef Jun 2015 #131

my problems started when he didn't stick up for Rev. Wright . olddots Jun 2015 #136

He doesn't stick up for people who aren't politically useful. TwilightGardener Jun 2015 #144

He has been a disappointment. AngryOldDem Jun 2015 #146