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Exactly ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #1
Absolutely. People should inform themselves. MineralMan Jun 2015 #3
+1. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #7
Unless people "consciously work at it", this is hard to do in today's corporate media environment. cascadiance Jun 2015 #15
You people have no idea how government "works" Agony Jun 2015 #2
Care to define "you people"? bunnies Jun 2015 #4
It means "everyone with whom I think I disagree," I think. MineralMan Jun 2015 #6
Indeed. bunnies Jun 2015 #8
"You people" is meaningless. MineralMan Jun 2015 #5
While this sounds great, sadoldgirl Jun 2015 #9
Yep, a single amendment can kill an international agreement. MohRokTah Jun 2015 #10
Work to defeat it. mmonk Jun 2015 #11
I'll wait until the entire agreement can be studied. MineralMan Jun 2015 #19
When will agreements be ready? fadedrose Jun 2015 #12
I have no idea. The agreement is not MineralMan Jun 2015 #17
Yes, with Republican majorities in both houses, and no filibuster, it'll totally be stopped jeff47 Jun 2015 #13
Haha, ^THIS^ n/t cherokeeprogressive Jun 2015 #14
Truth. n/t PowerToThePeople Jun 2015 #16
Do you have a better suggestion than MineralMan Jun 2015 #18
Yes, primaries. jeff47 Jun 2015 #20
That solution is always available. MineralMan Jun 2015 #21
Any energy to elect more people? joshcryer Jun 2015 #28
We didn't "get rid of the ones" in 2010. jeff47 Jun 2015 #40
Yes, those were the cheers in 2010. joshcryer Jun 2015 #46
Blue dogs are not the universal result. jeff47 Jun 2015 #47
COICA, SOPA and PIPA, were all stopped. joshcryer Jun 2015 #26
What a ridiculous post, even for DU's version of Dr. Pangloss. nt Romulox Jun 2015 #22
Not at all. That is exactly how to proceed at this point. MineralMan Jun 2015 #23
What you've posted is rank nonsense; TPP will pass easily, and everybody knows it. nt Romulox Jun 2015 #24
So, you have no alternative action to suggest? MineralMan Jun 2015 #25
Your side won, which is why these bromides are so nonsensical. You aren't "doing" anything to ensure Romulox Jun 2015 #27
I have taken no position on the TPP. MineralMan Jun 2015 #30
You support the powerful over the powerless at every turn. Your position is transparent. nt Romulox Jun 2015 #35
+1 Marr Jun 2015 #39
Do I? See, once again, you demonstrate that you really MineralMan Jun 2015 #41
I intend to read the agreement, and I know a few lawyers who can translate if necessary. Agnosticsherbet Jun 2015 #29
I doubt if I will have time to read the whole thing. MineralMan Jun 2015 #32
A lot of documents have portions that are necessary legal ruffles and flourishes. Agnosticsherbet Jun 2015 #36
Leaked drafts are useless. I haven't even bothered. MineralMan Jun 2015 #38
Given the size of the objections to Fast Track, which were completely ignored, djean111 Jun 2015 #31
They weren't ignored by everyone. MineralMan Jun 2015 #33
Thank you for a calm, rational, realistic perspective. yallerdawg Jun 2015 #34
Difficult as it is sometimes, I try to work with what is, rather MineralMan Jun 2015 #42
I wonder if it would be possible to set up a group to read portions of the TPP and report on it? Agnosticsherbet Jun 2015 #37
I'm sure there will be several such groups. MineralMan Jun 2015 #44
How do you know we will even see it before they vote on it? WDIM Jun 2015 #43
Yes, OK. I see you've given up, then. MineralMan Jun 2015 #45
Oh yes, they totally listen to us, all the time. truebluegreen Jun 2015 #48
Al Franken, Amy Klobuchar and Betty McCollum appear MineralMan Jun 2015 #49
Bwahahahahahahaaa. progressoid Jun 2015 #50
So, what's your suggestion on how to proceed? MineralMan Jun 2015 #51
Based on who supports TPP, we don't need to 'wait and see' to know it's a steaming pant-load. progressoid Jun 2015 #52
So, you have no suggestion about what DUers should do? MineralMan Jun 2015 #53
Join Warren and Franken to oppose it. progressoid Jun 2015 #54
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