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zentrum

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36. Love the hope but

Wed Jul 1, 2015, 08:12 PM

Jul 2015

……I don't think they've lost control at all. Not in the least. They're destroying unions, control the media (yes even the stories on the internet), can cherry pick their voters via gerrymandering, income disparity is growing, the TPP is about to kick in, we still have foreign affair policies that are creating terrible suffering around the world and will come home to haunt us, etc.

Yes, we'll get some social progress for oppressed people, maybe a little less discrimination, and a pittance of higher wages——but they never really cared about social issues anyway—it was all just a way to manipulate a wedge between people who should be united.

Regardless, we need Bernie more than ever!

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Do you get the feeling that the politicians have lost control of us? [View all] CoffeeCat Jul 2015 OP

In one word, yes. mmonk Jul 2015 #1

That's a good point... CoffeeCat Jul 2015 #5

Yes. mmonk Jul 2015 #8

I'm sick of tired of consumer anything. Bring back "citizens" lostnfound Jul 2015 #11

True that. mmonk Jul 2015 #12

Even worse, we became commodities. truebluegreen Jul 2015 #29

Yep. Calling me a "consumer" is fighting words. hunter Jul 2015 #31

That terminology switch was hifiguy Jul 2015 #39

No doubt Populist_Prole Jul 2015 #69

Yess--a former mayor of a small town said eridani Jul 2015 #57

In the early 80s I remember the swtich to consumer everything $$ from citizen. appalachiablue Jul 2015 #62

Absolutely! My position in this nation isn't "worker" or "labor" either. Hortensis Jul 2015 #67

Hell yes! Unfortunately, we have had further downgrades to "useless eaters" and "human resources" at TheKentuckian Jul 2015 #86

Thank you. 840high Jul 2015 #19

I think so too. And any inflation stats don't jibe with the average person's reality either. raccoon Jul 2015 #64

I'm feeling hope for the planet! n/t Admiral Loinpresser Jul 2015 #56

Additionally, the opposition openly advocates dismantling the tattered remnants of the New Deal. Enthusiast Jul 2015 #75

The real answer will be to see how many unconnected people, are drawn to Bernie randys1 Jul 2015 #2

From your lips 99th_Monkey Jul 2015 #3

K&R..... daleanime Jul 2015 #4

No, not at all Oilwellian Jul 2015 #6

I think there are many attempts to have us feel that we have more control now... cascadiance Jul 2015 #10

Wow. All I can say is... Oilwellian Jul 2015 #46

I think that that most of the politicians pretty much don't really care about us one way or another. djean111 Jul 2015 #7

IF we stick together and WORK for and with kacekwl Jul 2015 #27

One thing that would help keep the politicians connected to their constituents would be to A Simple Game Jul 2015 #81

Some of us; Many of us; Enough of us? Martin Eden Jul 2015 #9

People are talking to each other again and it is due to internet/social media Rosa Luxemburg Jul 2015 #13

yeah, the internet and social media is making a huge difference in people tuning out the BS news Fast Walker 52 Jul 2015 #59

Well, the Republicans are good about keeping everyone in line with Baitball Blogger Jul 2015 #14

The US has a 1 1/2 party system of government. trof Jul 2015 #15

Yup. bigwillq Jul 2015 #17

Dude, we're screwed. trof Jul 2015 #20

Since January 1981 bigwillq Jul 2015 #22

but don't you feel like people are waking up at all? Fast Walker 52 Jul 2015 #61

Some are. bigwillq Jul 2015 #63

totally agree there Fast Walker 52 Jul 2015 #88

+10 840high Jul 2015 #23

"Like the old joke goes" > another - Two folks discussing the food in Vegas. One says. jtuck004 Jul 2015 #24

I like to compare American politics to the food industry. GliderGuider Jul 2015 #71

Our problem is that we have also lost control of them. jwirr Jul 2015 #16

In a way yes. But that has already happened to some extent. mmonk Jul 2015 #18

Hopefully sooner than later. jwirr Jul 2015 #21

The politicians have lost control. The money has not. (nt) enough Jul 2015 #25

Yes, two of many reasons: chknltl Jul 2015 #26

Nah, they give us a little win now and then like gay marriage tularetom Jul 2015 #28

we shall see. Money, power and greed know no limits. I remain a skeptic. NRaleighLiberal Jul 2015 #30

Sorry, I don't agree with much of what you said....too all-encompassing..... George II Jul 2015 #32

Don't fool yourself.......... Hotler Jul 2015 #33

We were just thrown some scraps of hope flobee1 Jul 2015 #58

I get the impression that the old bullshit is selling like it used to. /nt Marr Jul 2015 #34

Meh. It would be interesting if it happened. asturias31 Jul 2015 #35

Love the hope but zentrum Jul 2015 #36

Sadly, that does seem to be the reality. Boomerproud Jul 2015 #74

They have, and it scaring the crap out of a lot of them. hifiguy Jul 2015 #37

No. That it might seem so would be their success. Alkene Jul 2015 #38

But that's just it. mmonk Jul 2015 #40

I like the way you think. Alkene Jul 2015 #54

I sure hope so. nt SusanCalvin Jul 2015 #41

No. TransitJohn Jul 2015 #42

thoughtful post, thanks nt grasswire Jul 2015 #43

I think we are approaching one of those 1848, 1929, 1968 or 2007 moments. gordianot Jul 2015 #44

The Democratic party has. The curtains have been opened, we saw inside and many of Autumn Jul 2015 #45

So well said!! raindaddy Jul 2015 #47

PLEASE LET IT BE TRUE! I'm Beginning To Feel ChiciB1 Jul 2015 #48

I shouldn't be any surprise to anyone, not even politicians Jack Rabbit Jul 2015 #49

I agree that WE are the answer. closeupready Jul 2015 #50

Maybe a little bit? Babel_17 Jul 2015 #51

I've been feeling it since the "Gannon-Gate" swung open rocktivity Jul 2015 #52

No, since none of them has as yet been led to the guillotine Doctor_J Jul 2015 #53

The Oligarchs are starting to sweat. They had hoped their candidates rhett o rick Jul 2015 #55

Big time on many subjects, look at marijuana! B Calm Jul 2015 #60

Not even a little bit. International Capital owns our government. nt Romulox Jul 2015 #65

Yes! It is starting to feel like democracy again! raouldukelives Jul 2015 #66

Conservatives in large numbers are angry and using formerly left terms like "corporate welfare" -- Hortensis Jul 2015 #68

This post is an example of why politicians Aerows Jul 2015 #82

Similar to what Liz Warren said recently: Utopian Leftist Jul 2015 #70

The spin-doctoring folks Aerows Jul 2015 #85

I feel like we are sort of irrelevant to them in most things. Arugula Latte Jul 2015 #72

I don't like being out of control. Betty Karlson Jul 2015 #73

God, I hope so. Ilsa Jul 2015 #76

I think that WE have lost control of our political leaders...... clarice Jul 2015 #77

I hope you're right... abakan Jul 2015 #78

Is this because of Hillary or Bernie? Fearless Jul 2015 #79

If only. They've got Citizens United and the TPP. Well, their owners do. nt valerief Jul 2015 #80

K&R smirkymonkey Jul 2015 #83

We are at one of those moments nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #84

Sanders seems to have the determination and forthrightnesses of Roosevelt. olegramps Jul 2015 #87