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pnwmom

(110,236 posts)
Wed May 16, 2012, 05:34 PM May 2012

To those who blame college students for majoring in the wrong subjects, [View all]

you might reconsider if you looked into the situation more. The problem is with entry level jobs everywhere, even in fields like engineering. Why should they hire B.S.'s with no paid experience when they can easily hire someone with five years experience for the same salary?

Here are some examples of struggling new graduates in the Mechanical Engineering field.

http://www.indeed.com/forum/job/mechanical-engineer/Entry-Level-Mechanical-Engineer/t154022

"I graduated in 08 with a B.S., Mechanical Engineering degree from a good University in Michigan (3.14 GPA) and have not been able to find anything. I apply for mostly janitorial and technician work now while I work at Meijer for 7.85 / hour. People look at me like I am some kind of idiot when I have my Meijer shirt on. I feel like I wasted my time and money getting this ridiculously hard degree with nothing to show for it but $55,000 of debt. Sorry for venting (whining), but I just don't know what to do anymore."

"Hi guys, I'd totally agree with a lot of the comments going up. I'm graduating from the University of Kansas (BSME). I get "Do you have any work experience?" all of the time. It's kind of hard to tell them "No, but it's the job markets fault" Can't exactly pull in an internship if I have to compete with people all over the country. What would you guys suggest the correct answer to that question should be?"

"I graduated from Clemson University in August 08' with my MSME (3.5 GPA)I haven't had a single interview. I moved to San Diego in May of 09' and I've been working at Costco making $11/hr ever since."

"Damn I got BSME in June 2009, 3.3 gpa still no job. I had 2 real interviews recently and dozen phone interviews and still no luck. I need some entry level position where I would get opportunity to learn. I think I am going to concentrate on practical experience in this letter. It’s not enough to get formal education to become a successful engineer. Theoretical studies and lab work are great, but it’s not possible to cover all specializations in university. Employers specially in small companies are not really interested to hire entry level engineers and this is understandable, they need job to be done, not mentoring some young people or may be company needs one professional engineer and there’s no other engineers in that company. To become a technical professional you must learn particular processes and that requires some amount of time. Many graduates with degrees in engineering feel like they had illusions about their studies choice and turn their talents in other fields either because of financial benefits or because they can’t get a chance of technical experience that requires long time of mentoring."

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So the kind of comment I see over and over again is that it's not enough to have an engineering degree -- that employers want engineers with experience. And they don't want to train them themselves. So they hire someone with a few years experience instead of a new grad.

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recent NC State engineering grad we know is bagging groceries zazen May 2012 #1
I'm a little confused as to why bagging groceries is a "step up" from construction work. cherokeeprogressive May 2012 #7
Whoa, that's a bit harsh, don'tcha think? Honeycombe8 May 2012 #38
Wow. You have some strong feelings about this. zazen May 2012 #39
Yes, actually, bagging groceries can pay as well as entry-level construction. Wages in HiPointDem May 2012 #51
There is no "right" degree. No matter what you major in ... eppur_se_muova May 2012 #2
Which is why we need tariffs. Zalatix May 2012 #17
du rec. nt limpyhobbler May 2012 #3
they can say what they want... it doesn't matter what they think fascisthunter May 2012 #4
There is potentially gainful employment for a Mechanical Engineering grad Sen. Walter Sobchak May 2012 #5
This isn't necessarily true. Someone in a major ending in "studies" may have excellent pnwmom May 2012 #6
But he wasn't hired by Microsoft for his knowledge of classical rome and greece Sen. Walter Sobchak May 2012 #8
So? He was hired for communications skills that were developed in his humanities major. pnwmom May 2012 #12
So is he represenative of the career and income performance of his classmates Sen. Walter Sobchak May 2012 #16
My BA was in the most useless "Studies" there is (General) Recursion May 2012 #10
The bachelor's degree has turned into what the high school degree used to be -- pnwmom May 2012 #13
My BS is also in General Studies, intheflow May 2012 #15
I know one anecdote doesn't mean much. Prometheus Bound May 2012 #26
Interesting my daughter is looking exboyfil May 2012 #32
I'm pretty sure he would say she's got an excellent plan. Prometheus Bound May 2012 #34
I have an MS in EE and only have a job because I was a UNIX sysadmin before grad school Recursion May 2012 #9
Think A BA or BS, Masters or even Doctorate is "Making It?" chickypea May 2012 #11
Sorry, but subject matters Lemmy May 2012 #14
Humanities are useless. intheflow May 2012 #18
English Majors Rule chickypea May 2012 #33
Well, we can at least do away with history majors, can't we agree on that? Zalatix May 2012 #41
You're wrong about humanities and similar degrees. pnwmom May 2012 #20
"there are no jobs associated with these sham degrees." ellisonz May 2012 #21
All of these humanities degrees develop skills in analysis and communication, pnwmom May 2012 #23
You just won your own thread! ellisonz May 2012 #24
Not sure whether I find ignorance like this funny or depressing. (nt) Posteritatis May 2012 #28
If all one wants out of life is money... bhikkhu May 2012 #35
What would you do? That's simple. white_wolf May 2012 #36
Money = putting food on the table. Money = paying for that heart transplant. Zalatix May 2012 #42
You're a Philistine, plain and simple. The streets are littered with the coalition_unwilling May 2012 #47
Go get a few books on... a la izquierda May 2012 #52
K & R ellisonz May 2012 #19
It's not just college students, vocational certificates are junk too... FirstLight May 2012 #22
And there are so many millions in your situation. I'm sorry it happened to you. n/t pnwmom May 2012 #27
Your story is why I get disgusted anytime exboyfil May 2012 #30
+1000 nt laundry_queen May 2012 #40
When my daughter started her degrees in 2006, her field also had outstanding projected growth riderinthestorm May 2012 #43
That also gets to why education isn't the answer Recursion May 2012 #49
My daughter is thinking of double majoring in exboyfil May 2012 #25
Do you know of any businesses hiring young mechanical engineers? pnwmom May 2012 #29
Those workers are overqualified for Costco. nt Trillo May 2012 #31
I 'blame' people who major in history and have no interest in jp11 May 2012 #37
Engineering degrees are traps too Harmony Blue May 2012 #44
+1. n/t pnwmom May 2012 #45
When I was in grad school, the College of Engineering... Recursion May 2012 #46
Oh it's actually worse than that. Zalatix May 2012 #48
Just wait.... bighughdiehl May 2012 #50
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