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65. I think the decision by Greece

Reply to Surya Gayatri (Reply #64)

Mon Jul 6, 2015, 12:25 AM

Jul 2015

is pissing off all of the right people.

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Buffoon leaders... and how we milked the EU, by veteran Greek columnist and commentator [View all] Surya Gayatri Jul 2015 OP

Taki calls Puerto Ricans "semi-savages", thinks Kenya is called "bongo-bongo land" a Ichingcarpenter Jul 2015 #1

Whatever his other RW proclivities may be, his historical perspective as a Greek Surya Gayatri Jul 2015 #2

He's a rightwing elitist asshole Ichingcarpenter Jul 2015 #4

He'd probably support a coup by the military under the aegis that the military KingCharlemagne Jul 2015 #14

Being a regular Spectator writer is yet another problem with him muriel_volestrangler Jul 2015 #20

Interesting...I got the feeling he was pretty far off to the right when I saw the rest of his CV, Surya Gayatri Jul 2015 #28

Spoilt racist playboy who writes to annoy people with less money muriel_volestrangler Jul 2015 #31

I saw something about the scion of the family - looked to be a chip off the old block. Surya Gayatri Jul 2015 #34

Major unrec. The author is a notorious right-wing provocateur. RufusTFirefly Jul 2015 #3

Another 1%er that expects austerity to affect everyone but him. hobbit709 Jul 2015 #5

did you read the article? snooper2 Jul 2015 #90

Did you read the posts about who the guy is? hobbit709 Jul 2015 #94

yep, but he blames center left and center right, and makes some good points snooper2 Jul 2015 #96

He defends the neo-Nazi Golden Dawn party - you can't trust anything he says to be true muriel_volestrangler Jul 2015 #102

Leaders lead. Cowards call for a referendum. randome Jul 2015 #6

So according to you Iceland is run by cowards? hobbit709 Jul 2015 #7

So according to you we should call for a popular vote on Iran nuke negotiations? randome Jul 2015 #12

... Surya Gayatri Jul 2015 #8

Oligarch vs democracy?... he should lead by dictatorship Ichingcarpenter Jul 2015 #9

Yes. Very illuminating RufusTFirefly Jul 2015 #10

Tsipras was 'hired' to fix a problem. Putting the problem up for a referendum is saying... randome Jul 2015 #13

Or, he's ensuring a consensus on whatever comes next... JHB Jul 2015 #40

He can't fix a problem some people don't want to have fixed: truebluegreen Jul 2015 #76

That person Aerows Jul 2015 #22

Tsipras campaigned and was elected on a platform that said there would be no KingCharlemagne Jul 2015 #15

Then he should have been honest in saying he was unable to do that. randome Jul 2015 #18

Um, putting the Troika's ultimatum up for a referendum is exactly the way Tsipras is KingCharlemagne Jul 2015 #19

The Greeks were double-crossed RufusTFirefly Jul 2015 #25

Beautifully put. Doesn't seem to matter how many times we say it or KingCharlemagne Jul 2015 #39

For those of us who live on the Euro economy and receive our Surya Gayatri Jul 2015 #35

To folks who view this as an ideological war, they don't care about you. Sad to say. stevenleser Jul 2015 #55

And the troika only cares that it does get its way. truebluegreen Jul 2015 #78

The troika is not posting here on DU and their misdeeds don't absolve DUers of the need to have stevenleser Jul 2015 #85

"There are zero DUers who are in favor of austerity, Z-e-r-o" truebluegreen Jul 2015 #87

I interpret it as being against Syriza and being against how Greece operated prior to 2010. stevenleser Jul 2015 #92

I have asked. truebluegreen Jul 2015 #97

So you are saying one can only be pro-Syriza or pro-Austerity? For one thing Syriza has no stevenleser Jul 2015 #99

Simply put, austerity is not a plan either. truebluegreen Jul 2015 #101

That doesn't excuse Syriza for not having a plan. No one here will argue in favor of austerity. nt stevenleser Jul 2015 #103

You keep saying that: it isn't true. truebluegreen Jul 2015 #107

Meanwhile, anonymous internet posters know all about bravery. n/t brentspeak Jul 2015 #24

I don't disagree MFrohike Jul 2015 #74

Varoufakis and Tsipiras are not doing Greece any good. DFW Jul 2015 #11

The Greek people and honest politicians did not commit the fraud fasttense Jul 2015 #17

They don't even know what they're voting for. DFW Jul 2015 #21

Excellent analysis, DFW... Surya Gayatri Jul 2015 #38

I have a few Greek friends as neighbors or near neighbors DFW Jul 2015 #41

I agree with you Munificence Jul 2015 #23

I don't normally jump into SusanCalvin Jul 2015 #26

As a matter of fact I am Munificence Jul 2015 #30

You are really full of it. You're blaming whole generations? Comrade Grumpy Jul 2015 #43

Ok then who is to blame then? Munificence Jul 2015 #47

To quote you: SusanCalvin Jul 2015 #51

Not all of us are Reagan Democrats ... GeorgeGist Jul 2015 #50

You're poorly named. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2015 #104

he is full of baloney elehhhhna Jul 2015 #54

over 25% of the people work for the state with very generous pensions, retire at 50 snooper2 Jul 2015 #93

That's Greece, and that's certainly stupid. SusanCalvin Jul 2015 #108

"Our retirees and anyone over 50 years old in both countries have lived well beyond their means." DFW Jul 2015 #45

I think it would be accurate to say that they lived beyond the means of their government mythology Jul 2015 #61

Retirees and other "old people" are just as screwed as you are. alarimer Jul 2015 #84

No, Munificence Jul 2015 #106

This is precisely what I've been trying to help non-Europeans to understand... Surya Gayatri Jul 2015 #36

You and I both live here, speak local languages DFW Jul 2015 #46

Definitely more difficult than a mere language barrier...more like cultural cross-purposes. Surya Gayatri Jul 2015 #57

I run into that a lot when I'm back in Texas DFW Jul 2015 #58

I don't even bother when I make one of my rare trips back to Nebraska... Surya Gayatri Jul 2015 #60

Top economists see 'No' vote as Greece's least-worst choice RufusTFirefly Jul 2015 #16

Like I said somewhere else: stuck between the proverbial rock and hard place... Surya Gayatri Jul 2015 #33

So, since you seem to be against the referendum and truebluegreen Jul 2015 #79

This message was self-deleted by its author Surya Gayatri Jul 2015 #82

Remain where...in their tax-evading, welfare abusing la-la land? Surya Gayatri Jul 2015 #83

So you are with the Troika. Fine. truebluegreen Jul 2015 #86

I'm with the millions of working-class Europeans, Surya Gayatri Jul 2015 #88

So you are with the Troika truebluegreen Jul 2015 #89

If you want to persist in conflating the millions of Surya Gayatri Jul 2015 #91

Not my Troika, truebluegreen Jul 2015 #105

If they go back to the drachma 1939 Jul 2015 #98

Looks headed that way...like somebody said elsewhere: Surya Gayatri Jul 2015 #100

Greece is unrecoverable in it's current form madville Jul 2015 #27

... Surya Gayatri Jul 2015 #29

And this is going to be one Aerows Jul 2015 #32

"It's the ones who are currently dominating the Euro that are the most strident in rebuking Greece" Surya Gayatri Jul 2015 #37

France and Germany lose? Where did that come from? DFW Jul 2015 #44

Sounds reasonable to me. SusanCalvin Jul 2015 #52

That would be all well and good strategery blunder Jul 2015 #75

^^this^^ truebluegreen Jul 2015 #80

The Germans never demanded that the debt be shunted on the backs of the poor DFW Jul 2015 #81

You should be embarrassed to post this tripe. Comrade Grumpy Jul 2015 #42

+1 Electric Monk Jul 2015 #48

As 'semi-savage' I agree. I think we need to get David Duke's take on things Guy Whitey Corngood Jul 2015 #49

Thank you for your input... Surya Gayatri Jul 2015 #59

those of this type do one service DonCoquixote Jul 2015 #53

The Euro will become the poster child for why... roamer65 Jul 2015 #56

... Surya Gayatri Jul 2015 #62

You are in France Aerows Jul 2015 #63

Nobody, least of all French pensioners like myself, has anything to gain from Greece's Surya Gayatri Jul 2015 #64

I think the decision by Greece Aerows Jul 2015 #65

So pleased that you are pleased... Surya Gayatri Jul 2015 #66

This is exactly the disconnect Aerows Jul 2015 #67

Like I said... Surya Gayatri Jul 2015 #68

Please Aerows Jul 2015 #69

Are you seriously serious? Surya Gayatri Jul 2015 #70

If you have a job Aerows Jul 2015 #71

Thank you for your sage counsel. I DO meditate daily and have done for 25 years... Surya Gayatri Jul 2015 #73

Also, FWIW, being single with no dependents, I pay taxes through the nose and do not resent it. Surya Gayatri Jul 2015 #72

Are you going to start shipping them toilet paper in a few months? snooper2 Jul 2015 #95

The Daily Mail? Are you fucking kidding? hatrack Jul 2015 #77