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cemaphonic

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7. I think viewing this crisis as some sort of modern morality play is simplistic and foolish
Wed Jul 8, 2015, 02:01 AM
Jul 2015

At the very least, it has shown that Greece is a bad fit for the EZ, and should probably leave so they can control their own monetary policy. And it has definitely put one of the structural flaws in the whole EU project into stark relief - if they are going to have a common currency, they need better tools to distribute wealth more evenly than the hodgepodge of national, supranational, and private banks they have now, and that probably means that each member nation would have to give up even more economic autonomy than they already have. A very hard sell, especially these days.

The US works because wealth flows from the more economically productive parts of the country to the less, in the form of investment, infrastructure improvement, military/aerospace/R&D facilities, welfare, etc. It's far from perfect, and there is still a lot of inequality and resentments, but just imagine where we would be if every 3 years, Mississippi had to petition New Jersey for a loan.

I don't think that Merkel, or any of the other power players in the EU want Greece to fail, but they have budgets to balance and constituents to appease too, and cannot afford (either economically or politically) to keep throwing money at Greece forever.

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Greece LittleBlue Jul 2015 #1
Greece... Have You Seen THIS: WillyT Jul 2015 #2
Greece and Germany are both sovereign nations. geek tragedy Jul 2015 #3
"antics"? It's antic to oppose further pension cuts? Ken Burch Jul 2015 #4
So they should renounce all the debt, leave the Euro and print their own currency, yes? n/t PoliticAverse Jul 2015 #11
It may come to that. Ken Burch Jul 2015 #12
Walking out of negotiations is an antic. geek tragedy Jul 2015 #17
Like blaming a victim of a rapist. Katashi_itto Jul 2015 #18
The people of Greece elected those governments. Indydem Jul 2015 #19
Both. HooptieWagon Jul 2015 #5
Thanks. Excellent analysis. n/t. Ken Burch Jul 2015 #13
it's easy to take sides when your money is not at risk hill2016 Jul 2015 #6
Decent people don't put money before humanity. Ken Burch Jul 2015 #8
So you as a decent person have given all of your money to the Greek people, right? DesMoinesDem Jul 2015 #22
by the same token Tsipras has no right to demand money from German workers nt geek tragedy Jul 2015 #23
I haven't bought Greek bonds, but I have donated money to help feed the Greeks. nt Javaman Jul 2015 #20
I think viewing this crisis as some sort of modern morality play is simplistic and foolish cemaphonic Jul 2015 #7
It's not "throwing money" at Greece to let Greece raise taxes rather than cut pensions Ken Burch Jul 2015 #9
Hey, their pension FRAUD is a major cause of of the collapse. Billions of bucks annually to people underahedgerow Jul 2015 #15
..... trusty elf Jul 2015 #10
That graphic works even better with this music being played at the same time. Ken Burch Jul 2015 #14
The people who deposited the money that was lent to Greece. Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2015 #16
Saying it's a country 'v. Merkel' is a leading question (nt) muriel_volestrangler Jul 2015 #21
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