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Surya Gayatri

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42. Minister of Awesome...Bwaahaaaaa!

Thu Jul 9, 2015, 04:47 PM

Jul 2015

But, but, he and Alexis were just playing 'good cop/bad cop', don't cha know?

All part of their finely-honed and ingenious negotiating strategy.

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"now has the popular support to enforce such punitive measures." - Apparently 'No' means 'Yes'. PoliticAverse Jul 2015 #1

"I meant to do that" geek tragedy Jul 2015 #2

No, a tragedy, a greek tragedy. n/t PoliticAverse Jul 2015 #4

Or in this case, a geek tragedy. KamaAina Jul 2015 #19

I bet they are regretting joining the EU by now. Rex Jul 2015 #3

I would question the sanity of anyone involved in this fiasco geek tragedy Jul 2015 #5

So was the EU supposed to be like NAFTA kinda? Rex Jul 2015 #11

Originally, to prevent Germany and France from fighting catastrophic wars every 40 years. geek tragedy Jul 2015 #14

Yeah when you told me they have no control over their own currency my jaw dropped. Rex Jul 2015 #16

it makes sense only if there's greater integration. geek tragedy Jul 2015 #17

I always thought they still had their own national currency and the EU was their Rex Jul 2015 #18

I think there was a transition period in the first few years where geek tragedy Jul 2015 #25

I can't remember but why did Great Britain take so long to join the EU? What was their fear? jwirr Jul 2015 #20

Well, DeGaulle vetoed their entry as late as 1967, nt geek tragedy Jul 2015 #21

I seem to remember that they had problems more than France. Oh, well it probably has nothing jwirr Jul 2015 #26

There's a cultural thing with Brits, partially due to geography, are they geek tragedy Jul 2015 #34

That sounds like it. jwirr Jul 2015 #39

"Heavy Fog In Channel. Continent Cut Off." greatauntoftriplets Jul 2015 #44

Some had the idea they could make a super currency to challenge the US Dollar. n/t PoliticAverse Jul 2015 #22

That is what I thought, been a long time yet that is how I remember it too. Rex Jul 2015 #24

The will of the people is a tricky one here BeyondGeography Jul 2015 #6

Looks like they were right about the Grexit and wrong about the leverage. geek tragedy Jul 2015 #7

So after all the hoopla, they really didn't know what they were voting for? Tarheel_Dem Jul 2015 #8

they trusted their current government. geek tragedy Jul 2015 #9

So this CYA referendum was an excercise in futility. They don't want austerity, and they don't.... Tarheel_Dem Jul 2015 #12

never promise anything out of your control seems a pretty good lesson. geek tragedy Jul 2015 #15

That is what I thought of when you said never trust government out of hand. Secret trade deals. jwirr Jul 2015 #23

or, trust but verify. nt geek tragedy Jul 2015 #28

Exactly. Do they have any chance of finding a government that is really going to represent the jwirr Jul 2015 #29

SYRIZA made promises that anyone could see would not all be kept. geek tragedy Jul 2015 #30

Yes, I understood that it all depends on those who hold the power. I pity the people who have no jwirr Jul 2015 #31

true dat nt geek tragedy Jul 2015 #32

Democracy is nice but if you are an uninformed voter you're likely to make a bad choice. PoliticAverse Jul 2015 #35

Yep - game on. jwirr Jul 2015 #38

I'm chalking this up as another refutation of game theory in the real world. n/t PoliticAverse Jul 2015 #37

One must always consider the possibility in a negotiation that when you tell the opposite party... PoliticAverse Jul 2015 #33

It was a risky move, and in hindsight, it would have been better if the referendum had never.... Tarheel_Dem Jul 2015 #36

Indeed, polls I've seen repeatedly show most Greeks want to keep the Euro. PoliticAverse Jul 2015 #27

I hope this is just spin. snot Jul 2015 #10

The economic suicide of Europe. nt LittleBlue Jul 2015 #13

Yep. truebluegreen Jul 2015 #40

No kidding...ya think? Surya Gayatri Jul 2015 #41

Minister of Awesome...Bwaahaaaaa! Surya Gayatri Jul 2015 #42

Yanis Varoufakis did co-author a book on game theory... PoliticAverse Jul 2015 #43