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In reply to the discussion: If the Confederate battle flag is not about slavery but about Southern "heritage" [View all]MADem
(135,425 posts)1. It's the "heritage" of telling the federal government to "go f-ck yourself" in 1961.
That stupid flagpole was slapped up there when those meanie feds told them that segregation wasn't cool and they shouldn't do it anymore.
What a heritage!!
http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/10/us/south-carolina-confederate-battle-flag-journey/
After the Civil War, the battle flag mostly faded from sight. But little less than a century later, after World War II, the civil rights movement began to simmer, and the flag slowly reappeared. South Carolina politician Strom Thurmond ran for president as the face of the newly founded racial segregationist party, the Dixiecrats. He was often greeted at rallies with Confederate battle flags.
By the 1960s the civil rights movement was bursting forth. In January 1961 John F. Kennedy was sworn in as President, promising equal rights to African-Americans, and desegregation progressed. Three months later, on April 11, 1961, South Carolina hoisted the battle flag over the Capitol dome in Columbia to honor the 100th anniversary of the beginning of the Civil War. And kept it there.
Political uproar over the flag over the dome grew. And in 2000, civil rights activists succeeded in lobbying to have the large Confederate flag removed from that prominent position. As a compromise, the legislature passed the 2000 Heritage Act, which had the flag raised next to a soldiers' monument and protect its position there. It required a two-thirds majority vote by the legislature to overturn it.
By the 1960s the civil rights movement was bursting forth. In January 1961 John F. Kennedy was sworn in as President, promising equal rights to African-Americans, and desegregation progressed. Three months later, on April 11, 1961, South Carolina hoisted the battle flag over the Capitol dome in Columbia to honor the 100th anniversary of the beginning of the Civil War. And kept it there.
Political uproar over the flag over the dome grew. And in 2000, civil rights activists succeeded in lobbying to have the large Confederate flag removed from that prominent position. As a compromise, the legislature passed the 2000 Heritage Act, which had the flag raised next to a soldiers' monument and protect its position there. It required a two-thirds majority vote by the legislature to overturn it.
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If the Confederate battle flag is not about slavery but about Southern "heritage" [View all]
CTyankee
Jul 2015
OP
It's the "heritage" of telling the federal government to "go f-ck yourself" in 1961.
MADem
Jul 2015
#1
I wasn't assigning negative motives. I just want to know what Southern heritage is.
CTyankee
Jul 2015
#7
Ever had a discussion about "real" Southern cornbread with another Southerner from
CTyankee
Jul 2015
#38
When southern folk are being HOSPITABLE, they don't use that "heritage" word either.
MADem
Jul 2015
#15
Well alot of people also dont talk about William Ellison either but thats because
cstanleytech
Jul 2015
#11
Just that people are selective in what they view as their "heritage" and that
cstanleytech
Jul 2015
#26
More like they dont want to discuss that a black slaver owner fought for the Confederacy.
cstanleytech
Jul 2015
#35
"ONTH there were no white slaves. " The term used back then for whites was indentured servants
cstanleytech
Jul 2015
#43
Thats because its a fact, it was about profit and using people to make profit pure and simple.
cstanleytech
Jul 2015
#44
you need to study slavery. the American brand was called the "peculiar institution" because it
Solomon
Jul 2015
#49
The choice of that word over others as used constantly and exclusively among regions by the South
Bluenorthwest
Jul 2015
#21
Regional identities exist across N Am. Dixie happens to be one of the largest and
HereSince1628
Jul 2015
#30
I have that book on my bookshelf. I remember reading it and liking it very much...
CTyankee
Jul 2015
#34
People who say that fail to consider the millions of black people who are also Southerners.
Iggo
Jul 2015
#32
It includes seceeding from the US supposedly for States rights (cough cough slavery cough)
peacebird
Jul 2015
#52
No, I really did ask the question as just what it is, not for any underlying bad
CTyankee
Jul 2015
#54
I think they all just rushed in at once and it probably felt like a "ganging up."
CTyankee
Jul 2015
#57
I just have to remember it's the chalice in the palace is the brew that is true...
CTyankee
Jul 2015
#60
Yeah, I know, it's why my husband doesn't want to go to the movies any more...
CTyankee
Jul 2015
#67