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The South Lost [View all] martalcd Jul 2015 OP
Nobody "won"... kentuck Jul 2015 #1
and, that's the very sad truth. In_The_Wind Jul 2015 #2
Millions of enslaved people won their freedom. Warren Stupidity Jul 2015 #4
^THIS! nt LostOne4Ever Jul 2015 #17
Yes! BillZBubb Jul 2015 #75
Define freedom. Glassunion Jul 2015 #80
True. kentuck Jul 2015 #81
Indeed. Glassunion Jul 2015 #84
Not a chattel slave. Warren Stupidity Jul 2015 #86
Well we did go from chattel to indentured Glassunion Jul 2015 #90
Actually for about 10 years reconstruction worked. Warren Stupidity Jul 2015 #91
Yes somebody did underpants Jul 2015 #7
Exactly. Winner/Loser utterly childish. Nothing snagglepuss Jul 2015 #8
Exactly. Octafish Jul 2015 #31
+1 an entire shit load. Enthusiast Jul 2015 #128
My g grandpa was a sargent in Shelby's Cavalry. He was from Missouri and heard his father had died roguevalley Jul 2015 #39
+1 n/t jaysunb Jul 2015 #126
I have to STRONGLY disagree. BillZBubb Jul 2015 #74
I'm with you tabasco Jul 2015 #97
+10000 n/t Euphoria Jul 2015 #123
40,000,000 people died in WWII edhopper Jul 2015 #111
“(T)he blood drawn with the lash shall be paid by another drawn with the sword” DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #113
Gettysburg and Antietam are not sacred and hallowed ground because of who won Algernon Moncrieff Jul 2015 #121
+1 Enthusiast Jul 2015 #127
Would you honor the dead soldiers from the Vietnam War ? still_one Jul 2015 #3
Germany does not allow the display of the nazi flag. Warren Stupidity Jul 2015 #6
That is not what I said. I was specifically addressing the OP whose contention was still_one Jul 2015 #9
Those were wars on foreign soil... martalcd Jul 2015 #22
Maybe you should watch Ken Burns documentary on the civil war still_one Jul 2015 #32
I've rewatched Ken Burns "Civil War" many times... martalcd Jul 2015 #70
Where did I say anything about preserving that flag? In fact just the opposite still_one Jul 2015 #79
One country? USA vs CSA. That is the Confederate States of America - a country with its own jwirr Jul 2015 #36
The CSA never legally existed. n/t Gore1FL Jul 2015 #50
Well they certainly thought they did. jwirr Jul 2015 #56
Nonsense. The CSA was a legal fiction. nt msanthrope Jul 2015 #57
those wars just don't compare treestar Jul 2015 #21
Old generations die out and with them their old ways? It has been 150 years. I do not think the jwirr Jul 2015 #33
If that is the thought behind their flag displays, no one should be mad when Nazi flags fly or roguevalley Jul 2015 #40
Germans don't honor dead Nazis Matrosov Jul 2015 #47
They mourn that sheen of nobility Mopar151 Jul 2015 #5
Just more South bashing. oneshooter Jul 2015 #10
I know. cwydro Jul 2015 #19
The ones... quickesst Jul 2015 #34
Let's see anyone win an election without the South. I am not talking the flag, most still_one Jul 2015 #82
how is it bashing treestar Jul 2015 #23
You might want to proofread your post lol. cwydro Jul 2015 #35
What's wrong with the post? ybbor Jul 2015 #62
Yep. treestar Jul 2015 #88
they are very sensitive indeed, yes? Skittles Jul 2015 #117
Why is it considered "South Bashing" Nac Mac Feegle Jul 2015 #30
Ann Coulter act???? CherokeeDem Jul 2015 #64
awww, poor south heaven05 Jul 2015 #38
Ah poor you. South been so mean to you npk Jul 2015 #92
I guess all those lynchings of our family members was nice? bravenak Jul 2015 #94
Did the entire south lynch your family. npk Jul 2015 #95
of course not. They also did nothing to stop it. Promoted lynchings, really. bravenak Jul 2015 #96
How do you know "they" did nothing to stop it npk Jul 2015 #98
Well, when I see photos of lynchings there are usually about 50 to 150- bravenak Jul 2015 #99
Do you see anybody trying to stop it??? I sure the hell don't. bravenak Jul 2015 #100
Post removed Post removed Jul 2015 #102
I never said they did. You did. bravenak Jul 2015 #103
... DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #106
THANK YOU!!!!! bravenak Jul 2015 #107
... DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #110
Me neither. It's fucking sad. bravenak Jul 2015 #112
... DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #114
Beautiful!! bravenak Jul 2015 #115
A lot did and some died heaven05 Jul 2015 #108
not recently heaven05 Jul 2015 #109
Born in the South with roots that go way back. safeinOhio Jul 2015 #68
I do not care. Texasgal Jul 2015 #11
That's just great, martalcd, Jawja Jul 2015 #12
I'm a long-time member of the DU... martalcd Jul 2015 #18
I haven't been here as long as you Omaha Steve Jul 2015 #133
No, the Confederacy lost Report1212 Jul 2015 #13
Thank you. Jawja Jul 2015 #15
Most everyone is sick of it. cwydro Jul 2015 #20
here here. those poor souls murdered in Charleston were southerners. nt arely staircase Jul 2015 #27
Exactly and most southerners agree. All it takes is a loud minority to keep a fight going. jwirr Jul 2015 #43
that's a good distinction. treestar Jul 2015 #89
Who knew that the last battle of that war would be fought Baitball Blogger Jul 2015 #14
Apparently not Man from Pickens Jul 2015 #16
^^^ THIS ^^^ cantbeserious Jul 2015 #101
strange Skittles Jul 2015 #119
let me tell you a little story Man from Pickens Jul 2015 #124
saying what the damage is, that is one thing Skittles Jul 2015 #129
why not? Man from Pickens Jul 2015 #130
OMG Skittles Jul 2015 #131
Amazing how that happens Man from Pickens Jul 2015 #132
I'll be sure to spit on the next Vietnam vet I see. Igel Jul 2015 #24
nope heaven05 Jul 2015 #29
Do you know how American prisoners were treated by the Japanese? cwydro Jul 2015 #41
I know a lot of what you just posted heaven05 Jul 2015 #44
Mm. cwydro Jul 2015 #46
they don't have to talk about heaven05 Jul 2015 #54
You really have no idea what you're talking about. cwydro Jul 2015 #60
heh, heaven05 Jul 2015 #67
Nice. cwydro Jul 2015 #87
Not attacking heaven05 Jul 2015 #116
Northerners and New Englanders recognized the brutality of slavery and abolished it... George II Jul 2015 #71
You're talking about the neo-confederate movement haikugal Jul 2015 #52
thank you heaven05 Jul 2015 #58
Oh my gosh. cwydro Jul 2015 #37
We can all mourn the dead of wars on both sides, even concentration camp survivors mourn... George II Jul 2015 #45
damn heaven05 Jul 2015 #59
As a white(ish) southerner, I hate that flag and despise the confederacy and everything it stood for arely staircase Jul 2015 #25
thank god, the union(north) did win heaven05 Jul 2015 #26
well i doubt there would still be slavery -probably more of an Aparthied type nation arely staircase Jul 2015 #28
The Confederacy was probably the biggest threat to the survival of the United States in our.... George II Jul 2015 #42
Agree - is there any country in history that allowed a flag they had defeated to fly throughout jwirr Jul 2015 #49
Well, the flags of countries that continue to exist after we defeated them do fly*, but.... George II Jul 2015 #73
Yes. jwirr Jul 2015 #76
That war had no winners LittleBlue Jul 2015 #48
The former slaves and future slaves, if the racist South won....they do not count!? Got it! Fred Sanders Jul 2015 #51
Yeah, Fred. That's exactly what I meant LittleBlue Jul 2015 #61
That is exactly what you said..."that war had no winners"....but, yes, it did. Refuse to see it, free country Fred Sanders Jul 2015 #63
Yeah because that's what I meant LittleBlue Jul 2015 #65
"I did not mean to say what I said"? All righty, then....."delete" can be your friend, mistakes happen. Fred Sanders Jul 2015 #72
This. historylovr Jul 2015 #55
The slaves who were freed were the winners. Deadshot Jul 2015 #69
The people of the south shockey80 Jul 2015 #53
Southern people can be the best Drama Queens in the book. They wallow in misery like it's ... BlueJazz Jul 2015 #66
The south DIDN'T LOSE. Not entirely. They didn't get their own country, but they got to keep their slaves and slavery... Moonwalk Jul 2015 #77
As did the Native Americans... Phentex Jul 2015 #78
Shhhhhh, let's not bring up the Native American genocide. Whose idea was it to give blankets from still_one Jul 2015 #93
Agreed but some people will never rest until they get the last word tymorial Jul 2015 #105
You should disconnect the South from the Confederacy. Glassunion Jul 2015 #83
As Lincoln said.. kentuck Jul 2015 #85
I'm ready for this to be over any day now tymorial Jul 2015 #104
The only reason that war lasted so long was because of the best Confederate General. MohRokTah Jul 2015 #118
This is the BEST shit-stirring post I've seen in AGES. cherokeeprogressive Jul 2015 #120
Can you imagine someone flying the S. Vietnamese flag in jaysunb Jul 2015 #122
Wow, have a little empathy. How many people in the South actually owned slaves? rhett o rick Jul 2015 #125
BS, the South was fighting to keep slaves. Empathy with whom? akbacchus_BC Jul 2015 #136
I am glad the flag came down also. But I do not like the rubbing salt in the wound of the South's rhett o rick Jul 2015 #137
Now do some research frustrated_lefty Jul 2015 #134
Put a Mexican Flag over the Alamo, after all they did WIN Jim Beard Jul 2015 #135
Countries who go through civil wars carry those scars nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #138
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