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MohRokTah

(15,429 posts) Sat Jul 11, 2015, 01:16 PM Jul 2015

My Northern Heritage [View all]

I was raised in the North and was taught that secession was treasonous. My history teacher in 6th grade so disliked the South's moniker "War of Northern Agression", that she taught us it was really the "War of Southern Treason".

I was taught that besides Lincoln as the Great Hero of the War of Southern Treason, that U.S. Grant was also a Great Hero, but that William Tecumseh Sherman was really the greatest general of the war because he understood what had to be done to secessionist traitors.

Bless my Northern Heritage, the traitors were put down!

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My Northern Heritage [View all] MohRokTah Jul 2015 OP

The victors write the history. kentuck Jul 2015 #1

Not after the War of Southern Treason. MohRokTah Jul 2015 #7

I really hate that cliche. malthaussen Jul 2015 #20

But we do not hear so much about the "war of Northern aggression"... kentuck Jul 2015 #25

I suppose it depends on where you live. malthaussen Jul 2015 #26

If secession is treason I hope you don't celebrate Independence Day (n/t) Spider Jerusalem Jul 2015 #2

Nobody was a traitor in the AWI... MohRokTah Jul 2015 #4

Sure they were Spider Jerusalem Jul 2015 #6

They won. Lee lost. Big difference. eom MohRokTah Jul 2015 #8

Not really, treason is still treason? Spider Jerusalem Jul 2015 #10

Treasonous rebellion is only treasonous if those rebelling lose. MohRokTah Jul 2015 #11

William Wallace lost. So did Owain Glyndwr. They're still seen as heroes by the Scots and Welsh. Spider Jerusalem Jul 2015 #13

One died a traitor's death, the other died in hiding as a traitor. MohRokTah Jul 2015 #15

Not as far as the Scots and Welsh are concerned. Spider Jerusalem Jul 2015 #17

+1 Glassunion Jul 2015 #52

Treason never prospers, what's the reason? malthaussen Jul 2015 #21

Apparently, I come from a long line of treasonous bastards. DawgHouse Jul 2015 #53

I was taught that Robert E. Lee was a traitor to his oath to msanthrope Jul 2015 #3

Me too. He was the Biggest Traitor of the War of Southern Treason. eom MohRokTah Jul 2015 #5

This southerner agrees. REL should have been hung for treason. nt arely staircase Jul 2015 #9

Why do you think they chose not to hang Lee? kentuck Jul 2015 #14

all those fuckers got off way to easy arely staircase Jul 2015 #18

Appeasement to the slave-owning losers? The same appeasement that continued with ignoring the Dixie Fred Sanders Jul 2015 #30

Probably had something to do with the fact... malthaussen Jul 2015 #34

Why would Lee be a greater traitor than any other officer who went south? malthaussen Jul 2015 #24

The army does not "honor" him. Glassunion Jul 2015 #29

You mean they finally took down his and Jackson's portraits from Carlisle? malthaussen Jul 2015 #32

No they did not. Glassunion Jul 2015 #39

600,000 died. I don't want another civil war which the religious freaks Iliyah Jul 2015 #12

Wow......just,.....wow. Ferretherder Jul 2015 #16

Well, it has been at last a few days since the last south bashing thread. Glassunion Jul 2015 #31

I saw so many "Southern Heritage" threads that I felt Northern Heritage deserved a thread, too. eom MohRokTah Jul 2015 #43

It's the War of Northern Smugness (nt) Nye Bevan Jul 2015 #67

She didn't remember much about Sherman's truce with Johnston, then. malthaussen Jul 2015 #19

Yes...the winners got Reconstruction... kentuck Jul 2015 #23

Yeah, in the end the moderates lost out. malthaussen Jul 2015 #28

Ha! Love it. You might want to add that valerief Jul 2015 #22

Keep in mind, there were damned good generals on the side of the Confederates. MohRokTah Jul 2015 #56

No general is good. They all do war. nt valerief Jul 2015 #62

I'm from the north and I don't remember any teacher sufrommich Jul 2015 #27

Of course, the railroad was started during the war. malthaussen Jul 2015 #37

And many confederate soldiers were recruited to fight the "savages" in the West after the War.... kentuck Jul 2015 #46

Yep, and a lot of blacks, too. malthaussen Jul 2015 #47

Chinese and Irish on the Central Pacific side, but the Union Pacific had a very large labor problem Bluenorthwest Jul 2015 #48

Didn't know that. malthaussen Jul 2015 #49

Lucky you to have such wise teachers! MoonRiver Jul 2015 #33

That seriously does not compute. malthaussen Jul 2015 #35

Logic did not bother them one little bit. MoonRiver Jul 2015 #38

Right. kentuck Jul 2015 #40

I see we have the same Google-foo. :) malthaussen Jul 2015 #45

I grew up in Texas tammywammy Jul 2015 #36

So was I tammy Texasgal Jul 2015 #41

my same experience, in texas arely staircase Jul 2015 #42

Me also brer cat Jul 2015 #50

Yep Facility Inspector Jul 2015 #51

I never heard it either treestar Jul 2015 #57

My country is the world, and my religion is to do good. Thomas Paine Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2015 #44

My southern sixth grade teacher called it what it was, The Civil War. DawgHouse Jul 2015 #54

I am from the South and I dislike the Confederate flag also Gothmog Jul 2015 #55

This isn't about your heritage. It's a put down of the Southern ones. nolabear Jul 2015 #58

Yes, it is. eom MohRokTah Jul 2015 #59

Funny. I was taught there were good and noble men on both sides of that conflict. Comrade Grumpy Jul 2015 #60

Not a single person who fought for the confederacy was "good and noble". MohRokTah Jul 2015 #61

Can a man that fights to preserve the Union while also supporting slavery be "good and noble?' Uncle Joe Jul 2015 #64

War is not black and white for all that are fighting in it seveneyes Jul 2015 #65

In this case, it is. eom MohRokTah Jul 2015 #66

This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Jul 2015 #63