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msanthrope

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3. I was taught that Robert E. Lee was a traitor to his oath to
Sat Jul 11, 2015, 01:19 PM
Jul 2015

defend the Constitution of the United States of America.

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My Northern Heritage [View all] MohRokTah Jul 2015 OP
The victors write the history. kentuck Jul 2015 #1
Not after the War of Southern Treason. MohRokTah Jul 2015 #7
I really hate that cliche. malthaussen Jul 2015 #20
But we do not hear so much about the "war of Northern aggression"... kentuck Jul 2015 #25
I suppose it depends on where you live. malthaussen Jul 2015 #26
If secession is treason I hope you don't celebrate Independence Day (n/t) Spider Jerusalem Jul 2015 #2
Nobody was a traitor in the AWI... MohRokTah Jul 2015 #4
Sure they were Spider Jerusalem Jul 2015 #6
They won. Lee lost. Big difference. eom MohRokTah Jul 2015 #8
Not really, treason is still treason? Spider Jerusalem Jul 2015 #10
Treasonous rebellion is only treasonous if those rebelling lose. MohRokTah Jul 2015 #11
William Wallace lost. So did Owain Glyndwr. They're still seen as heroes by the Scots and Welsh. Spider Jerusalem Jul 2015 #13
One died a traitor's death, the other died in hiding as a traitor. MohRokTah Jul 2015 #15
Not as far as the Scots and Welsh are concerned. Spider Jerusalem Jul 2015 #17
+1 Glassunion Jul 2015 #52
Treason never prospers, what's the reason? malthaussen Jul 2015 #21
Apparently, I come from a long line of treasonous bastards. DawgHouse Jul 2015 #53
I was taught that Robert E. Lee was a traitor to his oath to msanthrope Jul 2015 #3
Me too. He was the Biggest Traitor of the War of Southern Treason. eom MohRokTah Jul 2015 #5
This southerner agrees. REL should have been hung for treason. nt arely staircase Jul 2015 #9
Why do you think they chose not to hang Lee? kentuck Jul 2015 #14
all those fuckers got off way to easy arely staircase Jul 2015 #18
Appeasement to the slave-owning losers? The same appeasement that continued with ignoring the Dixie Fred Sanders Jul 2015 #30
Probably had something to do with the fact... malthaussen Jul 2015 #34
Why would Lee be a greater traitor than any other officer who went south? malthaussen Jul 2015 #24
The army does not "honor" him. Glassunion Jul 2015 #29
You mean they finally took down his and Jackson's portraits from Carlisle? malthaussen Jul 2015 #32
No they did not. Glassunion Jul 2015 #39
600,000 died. I don't want another civil war which the religious freaks Iliyah Jul 2015 #12
Wow......just,.....wow. Ferretherder Jul 2015 #16
Well, it has been at last a few days since the last south bashing thread. Glassunion Jul 2015 #31
I saw so many "Southern Heritage" threads that I felt Northern Heritage deserved a thread, too. eom MohRokTah Jul 2015 #43
It's the War of Northern Smugness (nt) Nye Bevan Jul 2015 #67
She didn't remember much about Sherman's truce with Johnston, then. malthaussen Jul 2015 #19
Yes...the winners got Reconstruction... kentuck Jul 2015 #23
Yeah, in the end the moderates lost out. malthaussen Jul 2015 #28
Ha! Love it. You might want to add that valerief Jul 2015 #22
Keep in mind, there were damned good generals on the side of the Confederates. MohRokTah Jul 2015 #56
No general is good. They all do war. nt valerief Jul 2015 #62
I'm from the north and I don't remember any teacher sufrommich Jul 2015 #27
Of course, the railroad was started during the war. malthaussen Jul 2015 #37
And many confederate soldiers were recruited to fight the "savages" in the West after the War.... kentuck Jul 2015 #46
Yep, and a lot of blacks, too. malthaussen Jul 2015 #47
Chinese and Irish on the Central Pacific side, but the Union Pacific had a very large labor problem Bluenorthwest Jul 2015 #48
Didn't know that. malthaussen Jul 2015 #49
Lucky you to have such wise teachers! MoonRiver Jul 2015 #33
That seriously does not compute. malthaussen Jul 2015 #35
Logic did not bother them one little bit. MoonRiver Jul 2015 #38
Right. kentuck Jul 2015 #40
I see we have the same Google-foo. :) malthaussen Jul 2015 #45
I grew up in Texas tammywammy Jul 2015 #36
So was I tammy Texasgal Jul 2015 #41
my same experience, in texas arely staircase Jul 2015 #42
Me also brer cat Jul 2015 #50
Yep Facility Inspector Jul 2015 #51
I never heard it either treestar Jul 2015 #57
My country is the world, and my religion is to do good. Thomas Paine Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2015 #44
My southern sixth grade teacher called it what it was, The Civil War. DawgHouse Jul 2015 #54
I am from the South and I dislike the Confederate flag also Gothmog Jul 2015 #55
This isn't about your heritage. It's a put down of the Southern ones. nolabear Jul 2015 #58
Yes, it is. eom MohRokTah Jul 2015 #59
Funny. I was taught there were good and noble men on both sides of that conflict. Comrade Grumpy Jul 2015 #60
Not a single person who fought for the confederacy was "good and noble". MohRokTah Jul 2015 #61
Can a man that fights to preserve the Union while also supporting slavery be "good and noble?' Uncle Joe Jul 2015 #64
War is not black and white for all that are fighting in it seveneyes Jul 2015 #65
In this case, it is. eom MohRokTah Jul 2015 #66
This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Jul 2015 #63
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