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Cal Carpenter

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14. If the baker won't serve someone due to national origin, that is illegal

Sun Jul 12, 2015, 04:51 PM

Jul 2015

If the baker won't print a swastika on a cake, that is perfectly fine.

If the baker has a tray of cupcakes for sale on his counter, he can't refuse to sell them to a customer because they are German.

He can refuse to add a swastika decoration to them, regardless of the nationality or anything else of the customer.

See the difference? If not, read this:

So, no matter where you live, you cannot deny service to someone because of his or her race, color, religion, national origin or disability. In some states and cities, you also cannot discriminate against people because of their sexual orientation. If there is no state, federal or local law prohibiting discrimination in public accommodations against a particular group of people, then you can legally refuse to serve that group of people.
https://www.legalzoom.com/articles/the-right-to-refuse-service-can-a-business-refuse-service-to-someone-because-of-appearance

By the way, having lived in Germany for awhile, I find it really fucked up that you seem to be claiming that a swastika is a symbol of being German these days. What the hell, man?

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A question about baking cakes, discrimination and the law. Help me out here. [View all] LynneSin Jul 2015 OP

Oregon has a no-discrimination law for businesses. Scootaloo Jul 2015 #1

Not a legal person LynneSin Jul 2015 #3

That's good treestar Jul 2015 #18

So far as my understanding of the law goes, COLGATE4 Jul 2015 #2

The desire to wish Hitler a happy birthday Nye Bevan Jul 2015 #4

i believe that you can discriminate against anyone, just not in particular protected classes. unblock Jul 2015 #5

Makes sense LynneSin Jul 2015 #6

You can't discriminate against people based on protected class status. Cal Carpenter Jul 2015 #7

That third paragraph was good LynneSin Jul 2015 #8

Glad I could help clarify! n/t Cal Carpenter Jul 2015 #10

That still leaves a lot of room for uncertainty. Ex Lurker Jul 2015 #26

The right answer is to bake and make the cake they order. Sam_Fields Jul 2015 #9

Legally that's not true. Cal Carpenter Jul 2015 #11

When I ordered the cake the baker said he doesn't serve Germans Sam_Fields Jul 2015 #13

If the baker won't serve someone due to national origin, that is illegal Cal Carpenter Jul 2015 #14

LOL! I lived in Germany too Sam_Fields Jul 2015 #15

I'm not sure what's funny. Cal Carpenter Jul 2015 #19

Go away. Sam_Fields Jul 2015 #20

See, now *that's* funny Cal Carpenter Jul 2015 #21

Seriously? How about instead say "thank you, I didn't understand that and now I do"? uppityperson Jul 2015 #22

That would be a bit ironic since I am also German heritage LynneSin Jul 2015 #24

In Colorado, we have a law that protects LGBT+ people from discrimination. backscatter712 Jul 2015 #12

In addition, some states want to make it legal for companies avebury Jul 2015 #17

What got the bakery into trouble and the $135,000 avebury Jul 2015 #16

Exactly. They doxxed the lesbian couple... backscatter712 Jul 2015 #23

Simple, you can always refuse personal messages. The Straight Story Jul 2015 #25