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GliderGuider

(21,088 posts)
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 06:40 AM Jul 2015

Varoufakis: On the Euro Summit’s Statement on Greece: First thoughts [View all]

From Varoufakis' blog:

On the Euro Summit’s Statement on Greece: First thoughts
  • A New Versailles Treaty is haunting Europe – I used that expression back in the Spring of 2010 to describe the first Greek ‘bailout’ that was being prepared at that time. If that allegory was pertinent then it is, sadly, all too germane now.

  • Back in 1971 Nick Kaldor, the noted Cambridge economist, had warned that forging monetary union before a political union was possible would lead not only to a failed monetary union but also to the deconstruction of the European political project. Later on, in 1999, German-British sociologist Ralf Dahrendorf also warned that economic and monetary union would split rather than unite Europe. All these years I hoped that they were wrong. Now, the powers that be in Brussels, in Berlin and in Frankfurt have conspired to prove them right.

  • The Euro Summit statement of yesterday morning reads like a document committing to paper Greece’s Terms of Surrender. It is meant as a statement confirming that Greece acquiesces to becoming a vassal of the Eurogroup.

  • The Euro Summit statement of yesterday morning has nothing to do with economics, nor with any concern for the type of reform agenda capable of lifting Greece out of its mire. It is purely and simply a manifestation of the politics of humiliation in action. Even if one loathes our government one must see that the Eurogroup’s list of demands represents a major departure from decency and reason.

  • The Euro Summit statement of yesterday morning signalled a complete annulment of national sovereignty, without putting in its place a supra-national, pan-European, sovereign body politic. Europeans, even those who give not a damn for Greece, ought to beware.

  • The recent Euro Summit is indeed nothing short of the culmination of a coup. In 1967 it was the tanks that foreign powers used to end Greek democracy. In my interview with Philip Adams, on ABC Radio National’s LNL, I claimed that in 2015 another coup was staged by foreign powers using, instead of tanks, Greece’s banks. Perhaps the main economic difference is that, whereas in 1967 Greece’s public property was not targeted, in 2015 the powers behind the coup demanded the handing over of all remaining public assets, so that they would be put into the servicing of our un-payble, unsustainable debt.
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An unservicable, unpayable debt that the greek governments intentionally amassed! DetlefK Jul 2015 #1
So Greek workers deserve to die? nt GliderGuider Jul 2015 #2
OMG, that hyperbole is sooooooo cute. DetlefK Jul 2015 #6
Who is "Greece" in your view? GliderGuider Jul 2015 #8
And who created this problem in the very first place? DetlefK Jul 2015 #15
I don't know if I agree with you or not but to put in another context: Are we all guilty because jwirr Jul 2015 #26
That depends: Did you at least try to change something for the better? DetlefK Jul 2015 #28
I hear what you are saying but I fail to see how this does not also discribe us. We had a 2+ wars jwirr Jul 2015 #30
And things would have been much worse if they left the Euro. randome Jul 2015 #16
Things would have been much better if the troika had offered debt relief... GliderGuider Jul 2015 #21
And they may. Igel Jul 2015 #25
"Syriza does not want a new Greece..." Fighting corruption, tax evasion etc. is a Syriza priority. Ghost Dog Jul 2015 #31
This poseur omits his own role in this fiasco. geek tragedy Jul 2015 #3
At least he had some skin in the game. Did you? nt GliderGuider Jul 2015 #4
No, never been happier to be on this side geek tragedy Jul 2015 #5
So how much do you actually know about the situation? GliderGuider Jul 2015 #7
Is there a quiz? geek tragedy Jul 2015 #9
And you surrendered a great deal of your sovereignty by being a citizen of a country. DetlefK Jul 2015 #12
Waitwaitwait... DetlefK Jul 2015 #10
No, I'm suggesting that unless you've been in someone else's shoes GliderGuider Jul 2015 #11
Let's say, I'm a bloodthirsty dictator ruling a tiny country with an iron fist. DetlefK Jul 2015 #13
If you were saying that the people he was ruling over deserved what they were getting GliderGuider Jul 2015 #14
I am merely using your very argument to show how ridiculous it is. DetlefK Jul 2015 #18
You're judging the wrong people, in that case. nt GliderGuider Jul 2015 #19
I am judging the guy who fucked up critical negotiations with grandstanding. DetlefK Jul 2015 #22
There were no negotiations. Ever. GliderGuider Jul 2015 #23
here are some other lines from that article: DetlefK Jul 2015 #24
So do you judge the Troika reps? Igel Jul 2015 #27
I have walked in the shoes on both sides of the fence. GliderGuider Jul 2015 #29
I like "demons in human flesh", thanks. Ghost Dog Jul 2015 #32
from his interview with the New Statesman reorg Jul 2015 #17
It was a Troika stitch-up from the word go. nt GliderGuider Jul 2015 #20
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