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DetlefK

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6. OMG, that hyperbole is sooooooo cute.

Tue Jul 14, 2015, 07:18 AM

Jul 2015

Greece should stop painting itself as the victim. They fucked up and now they complain that the deal that saves their asses isn't good enough.

Here's what Syriza should have done:
1. Take the initiative and implement domestic reforms as you see fit before anybody demands that you implement reforms.
2. Badmouth the EU for not lending you a helping hand in solving the crisis.
3. The EU doesn't want to look like the bad guy here and gives you monetary help. Additional reforms are discussed as suggestions what Greece should do (because you obviously have a plan yourself), not as uncompromising demands what Greece must do under any and all circumstances to secure monetary help.

Syriza fucked it up with their grandstanding.

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Varoufakis: On the Euro Summit’s Statement on Greece: First thoughts [View all] GliderGuider Jul 2015 OP

An unservicable, unpayable debt that the greek governments intentionally amassed! DetlefK Jul 2015 #1

So Greek workers deserve to die? nt GliderGuider Jul 2015 #2

OMG, that hyperbole is sooooooo cute. DetlefK Jul 2015 #6

Who is "Greece" in your view? GliderGuider Jul 2015 #8

And who created this problem in the very first place? DetlefK Jul 2015 #15

I don't know if I agree with you or not but to put in another context: Are we all guilty because jwirr Jul 2015 #26

That depends: Did you at least try to change something for the better? DetlefK Jul 2015 #28

I hear what you are saying but I fail to see how this does not also discribe us. We had a 2+ wars jwirr Jul 2015 #30

And things would have been much worse if they left the Euro. randome Jul 2015 #16

Things would have been much better if the troika had offered debt relief... GliderGuider Jul 2015 #21

And they may. Igel Jul 2015 #25

"Syriza does not want a new Greece..." Fighting corruption, tax evasion etc. is a Syriza priority. Ghost Dog Jul 2015 #31

This poseur omits his own role in this fiasco. geek tragedy Jul 2015 #3

At least he had some skin in the game. Did you? nt GliderGuider Jul 2015 #4

No, never been happier to be on this side geek tragedy Jul 2015 #5

So how much do you actually know about the situation? GliderGuider Jul 2015 #7

Is there a quiz? geek tragedy Jul 2015 #9

And you surrendered a great deal of your sovereignty by being a citizen of a country. DetlefK Jul 2015 #12

Waitwaitwait... DetlefK Jul 2015 #10

No, I'm suggesting that unless you've been in someone else's shoes GliderGuider Jul 2015 #11

Let's say, I'm a bloodthirsty dictator ruling a tiny country with an iron fist. DetlefK Jul 2015 #13

If you were saying that the people he was ruling over deserved what they were getting GliderGuider Jul 2015 #14

I am merely using your very argument to show how ridiculous it is. DetlefK Jul 2015 #18

You're judging the wrong people, in that case. nt GliderGuider Jul 2015 #19

I am judging the guy who fucked up critical negotiations with grandstanding. DetlefK Jul 2015 #22

There were no negotiations. Ever. GliderGuider Jul 2015 #23

here are some other lines from that article: DetlefK Jul 2015 #24

So do you judge the Troika reps? Igel Jul 2015 #27

I have walked in the shoes on both sides of the fence. GliderGuider Jul 2015 #29

I like "demons in human flesh", thanks. Ghost Dog Jul 2015 #32

from his interview with the New Statesman reorg Jul 2015 #17

It was a Troika stitch-up from the word go. nt GliderGuider Jul 2015 #20