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17. from his interview with the New Statesman
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 09:02 AM
Jul 2015

where he describes the 'negotiation process' thusly:

And look there were absolutely no positions put forward on anything by them. So they would… let me give you an example. They would say we need all your data on the fiscal path on which Greek finds itself, we need all the data on state-owned enterprises. So we spent a lot of time trying to provide them with all the data and answering questionnaires and having countless meetings providing the data.

So that would be the first phase. The second phase was where they’d ask us what we intended to do on VAT. They would then reject our proposal but wouldn’t come up with a proposal of their own. And then, before we would get a chance to agree on VAT with them, they would shift to another issue, like privatisation. They would ask what we want to do about privatisation, we put something forward, they would reject it. Then they’d move onto another topic, like pensions, from there to product markets, from there to labour relations, from labour relations to all sorts of things right? So it was like a cat chasing its own tail.

We felt, the government felt, that we couldn’t discontinue the process. Look, my suggestion from the beginning was this: This is a country that has run aground, that ran aground a long time ago. … Surely we need to reform this country – we are in agreement on this. Because time is of the essence, and because during negotiations the central bank was squeezing liquidity [on Greek banks] in order pressurise us, in order to succumb, my constant proposal to the Troika was very simple: let us agree on three or four important reforms that we agree upon, like the tax system, like VAT, and let’s implement them immediately. And you relax the restrictions on liqiuidity from the ECB. You want a comprehensive agreement – let’s carry on negotiating – and in the meantime let us introduce these reforms in parliament by agreement between us and you.

And they said “No, no, no, this has to be a comprehensive review. Nothing will be implemented if you dare introduce any legislation. It will be considered unilateral action inimical to the process of reaching an agreement.” And then of course a few months later they would leak to the media that we had not reformed the country and that we were wasting time!
And so… [chuckles] we were set up, in a sense, in an important sense.

http://www.newstatesman.com/world-affairs/2015/07/yanis-varoufakis-full-transcript-our-battle-save-greece

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An unservicable, unpayable debt that the greek governments intentionally amassed! DetlefK Jul 2015 #1
So Greek workers deserve to die? nt GliderGuider Jul 2015 #2
OMG, that hyperbole is sooooooo cute. DetlefK Jul 2015 #6
Who is "Greece" in your view? GliderGuider Jul 2015 #8
And who created this problem in the very first place? DetlefK Jul 2015 #15
I don't know if I agree with you or not but to put in another context: Are we all guilty because jwirr Jul 2015 #26
That depends: Did you at least try to change something for the better? DetlefK Jul 2015 #28
I hear what you are saying but I fail to see how this does not also discribe us. We had a 2+ wars jwirr Jul 2015 #30
And things would have been much worse if they left the Euro. randome Jul 2015 #16
Things would have been much better if the troika had offered debt relief... GliderGuider Jul 2015 #21
And they may. Igel Jul 2015 #25
"Syriza does not want a new Greece..." Fighting corruption, tax evasion etc. is a Syriza priority. Ghost Dog Jul 2015 #31
This poseur omits his own role in this fiasco. geek tragedy Jul 2015 #3
At least he had some skin in the game. Did you? nt GliderGuider Jul 2015 #4
No, never been happier to be on this side geek tragedy Jul 2015 #5
So how much do you actually know about the situation? GliderGuider Jul 2015 #7
Is there a quiz? geek tragedy Jul 2015 #9
And you surrendered a great deal of your sovereignty by being a citizen of a country. DetlefK Jul 2015 #12
Waitwaitwait... DetlefK Jul 2015 #10
No, I'm suggesting that unless you've been in someone else's shoes GliderGuider Jul 2015 #11
Let's say, I'm a bloodthirsty dictator ruling a tiny country with an iron fist. DetlefK Jul 2015 #13
If you were saying that the people he was ruling over deserved what they were getting GliderGuider Jul 2015 #14
I am merely using your very argument to show how ridiculous it is. DetlefK Jul 2015 #18
You're judging the wrong people, in that case. nt GliderGuider Jul 2015 #19
I am judging the guy who fucked up critical negotiations with grandstanding. DetlefK Jul 2015 #22
There were no negotiations. Ever. GliderGuider Jul 2015 #23
here are some other lines from that article: DetlefK Jul 2015 #24
So do you judge the Troika reps? Igel Jul 2015 #27
I have walked in the shoes on both sides of the fence. GliderGuider Jul 2015 #29
I like "demons in human flesh", thanks. Ghost Dog Jul 2015 #32
from his interview with the New Statesman reorg Jul 2015 #17
It was a Troika stitch-up from the word go. nt GliderGuider Jul 2015 #20
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