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In reply to the discussion: Varoufakis: On the Euro Summit’s Statement on Greece: First thoughts [View all]reorg
(3,317 posts)17. from his interview with the New Statesman
where he describes the 'negotiation process' thusly:
And look there were absolutely no positions put forward on anything by them. So they would
let me give you an example. They would say we need all your data on the fiscal path on which Greek finds itself, we need all the data on state-owned enterprises. So we spent a lot of time trying to provide them with all the data and answering questionnaires and having countless meetings providing the data.
So that would be the first phase. The second phase was where theyd ask us what we intended to do on VAT. They would then reject our proposal but wouldnt come up with a proposal of their own. And then, before we would get a chance to agree on VAT with them, they would shift to another issue, like privatisation. They would ask what we want to do about privatisation, we put something forward, they would reject it. Then theyd move onto another topic, like pensions, from there to product markets, from there to labour relations, from labour relations to all sorts of things right? So it was like a cat chasing its own tail.
We felt, the government felt, that we couldnt discontinue the process. Look, my suggestion from the beginning was this: This is a country that has run aground, that ran aground a long time ago. Surely we need to reform this country we are in agreement on this. Because time is of the essence, and because during negotiations the central bank was squeezing liquidity [on Greek banks] in order pressurise us, in order to succumb, my constant proposal to the Troika was very simple: let us agree on three or four important reforms that we agree upon, like the tax system, like VAT, and lets implement them immediately. And you relax the restrictions on liqiuidity from the ECB. You want a comprehensive agreement lets carry on negotiating and in the meantime let us introduce these reforms in parliament by agreement between us and you.
And they said No, no, no, this has to be a comprehensive review. Nothing will be implemented if you dare introduce any legislation. It will be considered unilateral action inimical to the process of reaching an agreement. And then of course a few months later they would leak to the media that we had not reformed the country and that we were wasting time! And so [chuckles] we were set up, in a sense, in an important sense.
http://www.newstatesman.com/world-affairs/2015/07/yanis-varoufakis-full-transcript-our-battle-save-greece
So that would be the first phase. The second phase was where theyd ask us what we intended to do on VAT. They would then reject our proposal but wouldnt come up with a proposal of their own. And then, before we would get a chance to agree on VAT with them, they would shift to another issue, like privatisation. They would ask what we want to do about privatisation, we put something forward, they would reject it. Then theyd move onto another topic, like pensions, from there to product markets, from there to labour relations, from labour relations to all sorts of things right? So it was like a cat chasing its own tail.
We felt, the government felt, that we couldnt discontinue the process. Look, my suggestion from the beginning was this: This is a country that has run aground, that ran aground a long time ago. Surely we need to reform this country we are in agreement on this. Because time is of the essence, and because during negotiations the central bank was squeezing liquidity [on Greek banks] in order pressurise us, in order to succumb, my constant proposal to the Troika was very simple: let us agree on three or four important reforms that we agree upon, like the tax system, like VAT, and lets implement them immediately. And you relax the restrictions on liqiuidity from the ECB. You want a comprehensive agreement lets carry on negotiating and in the meantime let us introduce these reforms in parliament by agreement between us and you.
And they said No, no, no, this has to be a comprehensive review. Nothing will be implemented if you dare introduce any legislation. It will be considered unilateral action inimical to the process of reaching an agreement. And then of course a few months later they would leak to the media that we had not reformed the country and that we were wasting time! And so [chuckles] we were set up, in a sense, in an important sense.
http://www.newstatesman.com/world-affairs/2015/07/yanis-varoufakis-full-transcript-our-battle-save-greece
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Varoufakis: On the Euro Summit’s Statement on Greece: First thoughts [View all]
GliderGuider
Jul 2015
OP
An unservicable, unpayable debt that the greek governments intentionally amassed!
DetlefK
Jul 2015
#1
I don't know if I agree with you or not but to put in another context: Are we all guilty because
jwirr
Jul 2015
#26
I hear what you are saying but I fail to see how this does not also discribe us. We had a 2+ wars
jwirr
Jul 2015
#30
Things would have been much better if the troika had offered debt relief...
GliderGuider
Jul 2015
#21
"Syriza does not want a new Greece..." Fighting corruption, tax evasion etc. is a Syriza priority.
Ghost Dog
Jul 2015
#31
And you surrendered a great deal of your sovereignty by being a citizen of a country.
DetlefK
Jul 2015
#12
Let's say, I'm a bloodthirsty dictator ruling a tiny country with an iron fist.
DetlefK
Jul 2015
#13
If you were saying that the people he was ruling over deserved what they were getting
GliderGuider
Jul 2015
#14