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jwirr

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30. I hear what you are saying but I fail to see how this does not also discribe us. We had a 2+ wars

Tue Jul 14, 2015, 11:28 AM

Jul 2015

without paying for them. We bailed out banks that should have been held responsible and we still do not hold them accountable. We have huge corporations and individuals hiding their money in the Caymans in order to avoid taxes. Our congress is mostly bought and sold by the 1%.

Greece has been trying to elect different governments including the present one. And that is what we did but as you can see it did not work for either them or us.

Did the voters have any idea what was going on behind the scenes? Do we? I know that we have a big debt but I know very little about that debt or what we are doing about it. I suspect that the little guy in Greece was in the same position. Yet he gets to pay the cost.

I don't care what the EU and Germany do to the government and bankers of Greece. Just for once I would like the little guy left out of the blame. And austerity never punishes the ones who get the money - just the little guy.

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Varoufakis: On the Euro Summit’s Statement on Greece: First thoughts [View all] GliderGuider Jul 2015 OP

An unservicable, unpayable debt that the greek governments intentionally amassed! DetlefK Jul 2015 #1

So Greek workers deserve to die? nt GliderGuider Jul 2015 #2

OMG, that hyperbole is sooooooo cute. DetlefK Jul 2015 #6

Who is "Greece" in your view? GliderGuider Jul 2015 #8

And who created this problem in the very first place? DetlefK Jul 2015 #15

I don't know if I agree with you or not but to put in another context: Are we all guilty because jwirr Jul 2015 #26

That depends: Did you at least try to change something for the better? DetlefK Jul 2015 #28

I hear what you are saying but I fail to see how this does not also discribe us. We had a 2+ wars jwirr Jul 2015 #30

And things would have been much worse if they left the Euro. randome Jul 2015 #16

Things would have been much better if the troika had offered debt relief... GliderGuider Jul 2015 #21

And they may. Igel Jul 2015 #25

"Syriza does not want a new Greece..." Fighting corruption, tax evasion etc. is a Syriza priority. Ghost Dog Jul 2015 #31

This poseur omits his own role in this fiasco. geek tragedy Jul 2015 #3

At least he had some skin in the game. Did you? nt GliderGuider Jul 2015 #4

No, never been happier to be on this side geek tragedy Jul 2015 #5

So how much do you actually know about the situation? GliderGuider Jul 2015 #7

Is there a quiz? geek tragedy Jul 2015 #9

And you surrendered a great deal of your sovereignty by being a citizen of a country. DetlefK Jul 2015 #12

Waitwaitwait... DetlefK Jul 2015 #10

No, I'm suggesting that unless you've been in someone else's shoes GliderGuider Jul 2015 #11

Let's say, I'm a bloodthirsty dictator ruling a tiny country with an iron fist. DetlefK Jul 2015 #13

If you were saying that the people he was ruling over deserved what they were getting GliderGuider Jul 2015 #14

I am merely using your very argument to show how ridiculous it is. DetlefK Jul 2015 #18

You're judging the wrong people, in that case. nt GliderGuider Jul 2015 #19

I am judging the guy who fucked up critical negotiations with grandstanding. DetlefK Jul 2015 #22

There were no negotiations. Ever. GliderGuider Jul 2015 #23

here are some other lines from that article: DetlefK Jul 2015 #24

So do you judge the Troika reps? Igel Jul 2015 #27

I have walked in the shoes on both sides of the fence. GliderGuider Jul 2015 #29

I like "demons in human flesh", thanks. Ghost Dog Jul 2015 #32

from his interview with the New Statesman reorg Jul 2015 #17

It was a Troika stitch-up from the word go. nt GliderGuider Jul 2015 #20