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karynnj

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26. She left office in early 2013 -- and was ill at the end of that time

Tue Jul 14, 2015, 05:02 PM

Jul 2015

She was hesitant to agree with the interim deal that was reached in late 2013 and did not go out of her way to support the framework that came out this spring. (It is very true that she did a lot of the work on putting sanctions in and.)

What is true is that she was Secretary of State when the secret meetings in Oman started in July 2012 involving Jake Sullivan and William Burns. (I would bet that HRC didn't mention that the possibility of Oman doing this was first investigated by Kerry at Obama's request.) The framework for the deal or even the process for getting one was not defined by January 2013!

Secretary Kerry had FAR MORE to do with the negotiations - and he did most of the heavy heavy lifting and deserves credit for that.

This is ridiculous, it is mostly Obama's accomplishment - and Kerry's . She spent most of the last two years distancing herself.

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