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JustABozoOnThisBus

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54. "When only men were eligible for combat"?

Wed Jul 15, 2015, 12:32 PM

Jul 2015

I don't think combat roles are equally available just yet. It's happening occasionally, and is being studied by the various branches.

Some Marine Colonel just lost her job after holding her female trainees to the same performance metrics as the male Marine trainees. So at least one branch is not up to "equality", or is still working on the meaning of "equality".

I hope the OP's subject wins her suit, opening draft registration requirements to both genders. It might reduce the chance of the draft being re-instituted. But if it happens, then the privileges and consequences of registration or refusal should apply equally.

As to your idea of limiting the draft registration to blacks, do you mean all blacks, or only black men? jk.

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Women Sue for Right to Be Drafted in the U.S. [View all] douglas9 Jul 2015 OP

there's discrimination by gender in the draft, but this is the first time I've heard it HFRN Jul 2015 #1

There is no active draft today, though registration is required of males when they turn 18. Both still_one Jul 2015 #2

I think both genders should register for the draft Travis_0004 Jul 2015 #6

I bet the selective service system can go from just registration to live draft HFRN Jul 2015 #7

Well penalties are still applied to men who don't register. Is that fair? davidn3600 Jul 2015 #11

Then why doesn't a male bring the discrimination charges, because they are the injured party? still_one Jul 2015 #13

They have davidn3600 Jul 2015 #18

ok still_one Jul 2015 #20

How is there an injured party, when there is no draft? JustABozoOnThisBus Jul 2015 #21

That was my original thought, however, those males who do not register, are denied federal loans for still_one Jul 2015 #22

A man who fails to register for the draft is ineligible for student aid lumberjack_jeff Jul 2015 #29

Ok, if you want student aid, then register ... JustABozoOnThisBus Jul 2015 #30

That makes it discriminatory. Females do not have such a requirement still_one Jul 2015 #33

What's the harm in sitting in the back of the bus? Major Nikon Jul 2015 #49

No harm, if that's where you choose to sit. JustABozoOnThisBus Jul 2015 #50

Would you apply the same standard to race? lumberjack_jeff Jul 2015 #52

"When only men were eligible for combat"? JustABozoOnThisBus Jul 2015 #54

Actually the discrimination would be solved more easily by ending the requirement Major Nikon Jul 2015 #55

I wondered what % of men registered for the draft last year. NobodyHere Jul 2015 #32

Therefore 66% of young men in DC can't go to college. lumberjack_jeff Jul 2015 #40

There can be an active draft next week, if needs must. MADem Jul 2015 #28

Better if we had a draft again, for everyone n2doc Jul 2015 #3

Absolutely disagree. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2015 #5

Right and wrong. If it were a fair draft for everyone what you say would work, but it never is/does stevenleser Jul 2015 #8

'The wealthy will always find a way to shelter their kids from the draft.' HFRN Jul 2015 #10

i have mixed feelings about it HFRN Jul 2015 #9

We would have to significantly increase military spending to make the draft fair hack89 Jul 2015 #16

Not necessarily davidn3600 Jul 2015 #17

In 2012 Norway conscripted 9265 of 63,000 draft eligible men hack89 Jul 2015 #25

The size of the Israeli military relative to it's population is 10 times that of the USA hack89 Jul 2015 #27

There will be a return of the draft don't you worry about that 951-Riverside Jul 2015 #23

...meanwhile thousands of young Americans will die or come back with PTSD n2doc Jul 2015 #24

This dumb draftee is against it but the late Colonel Hackworth had some thoughts on a citizens' army Brother Buzz Jul 2015 #34

Wrong. We lost 50,000 soldiers in Vietnam because we had a draft. pnwmom Jul 2015 #45

We'll need her HassleCat Jul 2015 #4

I have no problem with that. Le Taz Hot Jul 2015 #12

Grr..When women represent 50% of the top leaders of all nations might be a day I'd agree with this lostnfound Jul 2015 #14

Eliminate the Selective Service alarimer Jul 2015 #15

psssst...there is no draft. spanone Jul 2015 #19

Just looking for 15 minutes. liberal N proud Jul 2015 #26

Only Nixon could go to China lumberjack_jeff Jul 2015 #31

Kudos to her. True equality, not "fair weather feminism". redgreenandblue Jul 2015 #35

I had no idea that young men were supposed to register SheilaT Jul 2015 #36

Where did she say she's eager to serve? woolldog Jul 2015 #46

I guess I rather lept to the conclusion. SheilaT Jul 2015 #47

Did she check with all the other women on this... lame54 Jul 2015 #37

Did Rosa Parks check to see how others liked the back of the bus? marshall Jul 2015 #38

terrible comparison... lame54 Jul 2015 #41

She must have misunderstood the point behind marches for "equality". n/t lumberjack_jeff Jul 2015 #39

She realizes that equality is more than abortion rights and equal pay davidn3600 Jul 2015 #42

I'm for scrapping lame54 Jul 2015 #44

Why doesn't she just volunteer? KamaAina Jul 2015 #43

I'm loving some of the responses in this topic... Lancero Jul 2015 #48

A generation of americans have been indoctrinated in a very peculiar concept of equality. n/t lumberjack_jeff Jul 2015 #53

Good for them!! n/t PoliticAverse Jul 2015 #51

We should all have equal opportunity to be imprisoned for refusing to Zorra Jul 2015 #56