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In reply to the discussion: Is it possible to destroy everything of Confederate origin? [View all]hlthe2b
(114,852 posts)27. The flag is a very special case: was re-introduced specifically as racist element by segregatists
in the 50s & 60s. It has no place outside of museums and perhaps designated historical battlefields. Nor do KKK member statues and other most extreme & offensive relics on governmental properties, including public universities, IMO...
That said, I'm a big proponent of history and I shudder at a very few who seemingly are not willing to let the historical record remain--My sigline has long said it all for me (Those who fail to learn from history are destined to repeat it).
For those who want to wipe out even historical remnants of the confederacy, would that include the following in Richmond, VA?
Monument Avenue
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Monument Avenue Historic District
U.S. National Register of Historic Places
U.S. National Historic Landmark District
Virginia Landmarks Register

Monument Avenue, in Richmond, Virginia, is a premier example of the Grand American Avenue city planning style. A tree-lined grassy mall divides the east- and westbound sides of the street and is punctuated by statues memorializing Virginian Confederate participants of the Civil War Robert E. Lee, J.E.B. Stuart, Jefferson Davis, Thomas "Stonewall" Jackson, and Matthew Fontaine Maury, as well as Arthur Ashe, a Richmond native and international tennis star. The first monument, a statue of Robert E. Lee, was erected in 1890. Between 1900 and 1925, Monument Avenue exploded with architecturally significant houses, churches and apartment buildings.
Monument Avenue is the site of several annual events, particularly in the spring, including an annual Monument Avenue 10K race.[4] At various times (such as Robert E. Lee's birthday and Confederate History Month) the Sons of Confederate Veterans gather along Monument Avenue in period military costumes. Monument Avenue is also the site of "Easter on Parade," [5] another spring tradition during which many Richmonders stroll the avenue wearing Easter bonnets and other finery.
"Monument Avenue Historic District" includes the part of Monument Avenue from Birch Street in the east to Roseneath Avenue in the west, and is listed on the National Register of Historic Places as a National Historic Landmark District. In 2007, the American Planning Association named Monument Avenue one of the 10 Great Streets in the country.[6] The APA said Monument Avenue was selected for its historic architecture, urban form, quality residential and religious architecture, diversity of land uses, public art and integration of multiple modes of transportation.[7]
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Monument Avenue Historic District
U.S. National Register of Historic Places
U.S. National Historic Landmark District
Virginia Landmarks Register
Monument Avenue, in Richmond, Virginia, is a premier example of the Grand American Avenue city planning style. A tree-lined grassy mall divides the east- and westbound sides of the street and is punctuated by statues memorializing Virginian Confederate participants of the Civil War Robert E. Lee, J.E.B. Stuart, Jefferson Davis, Thomas "Stonewall" Jackson, and Matthew Fontaine Maury, as well as Arthur Ashe, a Richmond native and international tennis star. The first monument, a statue of Robert E. Lee, was erected in 1890. Between 1900 and 1925, Monument Avenue exploded with architecturally significant houses, churches and apartment buildings.
Monument Avenue is the site of several annual events, particularly in the spring, including an annual Monument Avenue 10K race.[4] At various times (such as Robert E. Lee's birthday and Confederate History Month) the Sons of Confederate Veterans gather along Monument Avenue in period military costumes. Monument Avenue is also the site of "Easter on Parade," [5] another spring tradition during which many Richmonders stroll the avenue wearing Easter bonnets and other finery.
"Monument Avenue Historic District" includes the part of Monument Avenue from Birch Street in the east to Roseneath Avenue in the west, and is listed on the National Register of Historic Places as a National Historic Landmark District. In 2007, the American Planning Association named Monument Avenue one of the 10 Great Streets in the country.[6] The APA said Monument Avenue was selected for its historic architecture, urban form, quality residential and religious architecture, diversity of land uses, public art and integration of multiple modes of transportation.[7]
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No the civil right to not have to look at symbols of oppression in public spaces.
Kalidurga
Jul 2015
#75
All those monuments contain the names of people who died in a horrible war. Whether you agree with
Erose999
Jul 2015
#92
Allowing individuals to fly the confederate flag is a good idea and very practical
tularetom
Jul 2015
#9
Yes, sometimes people act like 2 year olds. However, confederate flags have been on private and
merrily
Jul 2015
#29
Tearing it down when it's on private property is wrong. It's also trespassing, which is against the
merrily
Jul 2015
#19
Different issue, but it would take me too long to explain the distinction I was making.
merrily
Jul 2015
#22
In Richmond Va on Monument Ave there are six statues five of these honor Confederate leaders
Leontius
Jul 2015
#20
Actually, the OP is more comprehensive than only questioning private property. In fact it states as
hlthe2b
Jul 2015
#35
How is it erasing history? We do away with all kinds of things all the time. No one pretends they
merrily
Jul 2015
#31
Which goverment is threatening to fine or imprison anyone over confederate items on private property
merrily
Jul 2015
#41
I didn't think you would call it un-American if you were advocating for it. But, what do you mean by
merrily
Jul 2015
#66
So, things on govt property moved by govt upon a vote of a majority, but not destroyed.
merrily
Jul 2015
#72
The flag is a very special case: was re-introduced specifically as racist element by segregatists
hlthe2b
Jul 2015
#27
If you don't fly a flag anymore, that means you erased history? Poor Betsy Ross.
merrily
Jul 2015
#32
I told you once that I was not discussing the flag, nor did it seem to me that the OP
cwydro
Jul 2015
#47
Actually, you did not exclude the flag, even once. And I did not previously ignore what you said
merrily
Jul 2015
#51
You're the one that contended it was a legal issue that needed to be settled in court . . .
brush
Jul 2015
#100
If someone wants to have a confederate or a nazi flag on their own property it's their right.
Marrah_G
Jul 2015
#87
Years ago Tom Paxton had a song about trying to put an idea back in the box after it was out.
jwirr
Jul 2015
#94
Um, when are we destroying the Washington monument, Mt. Rushmore? (Washington supported slavery.)
Romulox
Jul 2015
#101
Support of slavery was a betrayal of everything we claim to stand for; an open wound to this day. nt
Romulox
Jul 2015
#104
There's no good reason to try to obliterate all memory of the Confederacy
struggle4progress
Jul 2015
#115