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GoneFishin

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58. I don't give a fuck about Monsanto's profits. If they want to keep losing the public trust then they

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Thu Jul 16, 2015, 06:57 PM

Jul 2015

should keep acting like they have something to hide, and continue pouring cash into the anti-labeling effort.

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Slate: The Misleading War on GMOs [View all] alp227 Jul 2015 OP

Yep. Anti vaxxers are very similar to anti-GMO folks (nt) Nye Bevan Jul 2015 #1

There is no connection at all between the two groups, though GMO sellers pnwmom Jul 2015 #2

No connection at all? Major Nikon Jul 2015 #40

He's one man. You can find handfuls of people to say anything. But the vast majority of Americans pnwmom Jul 2015 #41

Actually the vast majority of Americans could give a shit about either Major Nikon Jul 2015 #43

93% of Americans vaccinate their children and 93% of Americans want GMOs labeled GreatGazoo Jul 2015 #3

Good point! Thanks! n/t pnwmom Jul 2015 #4

93% of Americans are correct on vaccination and wrong on GMOs Orrex Jul 2015 #8

that is your opinion restorefreedom Jul 2015 #26

what is the limit of that right? Orrex Jul 2015 #28

1. it not based on ignorance and fear restorefreedom Jul 2015 #39

The right to know what you are buying doesn't include knowing how it's produced Major Nikon Jul 2015 #45

you have a right to know what is in it restorefreedom Jul 2015 #48

Ingredient labels are a thing you know. Lancero Jul 2015 #75

other consumers are free to read or ignore restorefreedom Jul 2015 #76

If you want organic food, buy organic labels. Lancero Jul 2015 #77

labeling is not perfect restorefreedom Jul 2015 #78

So we need foods labeled as organic... Lancero Jul 2015 #99

All it will do is raise the prices on food yeoman6987 Jul 2015 #107

There's a right to know what you are buying, not how it's produced Major Nikon Jul 2015 #44

GM Foods: A Moment of Honesty HuckleB Aug 2015 #114

gm is about two important issues restorefreedom Aug 2015 #117

Those are two of the common talking points. HuckleB Aug 2015 #118

Seldom have logic or evidence persuaded true believers in pseudoscience Orrex Jul 2015 #5

Now tell us about why GMOs now need Enlist Duo and why Starlink corn was recalled. GreatGazoo Jul 2015 #6

Why is it better to coddle irrational, misinformed fear? Orrex Jul 2015 #9

By William Saletan KamaAina Jul 2015 #7

You do remember using Saletan for an OP just a few months ago though, right? nt msanthrope Jul 2015 #21

Unlike Kaus, he is occasionally readable. KamaAina Jul 2015 #22

Yes, if I remember correctly......nt msanthrope Jul 2015 #24

The piece in question was hilarious. KamaAina Jul 2015 #23

Read his excerpt carefully gratuitous Jul 2015 #32

+1 nationalize the fed Jul 2015 #42

You make good points. Consumers are walking away from Big Food right now. GreatGazoo Jul 2015 #50

Well, they're trying. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2015 #55

If GMOs are all that beneficial and good, why the resistance to labeling? Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2015 #10

Because such labels would damage sales for no good reason at all. Orrex Jul 2015 #12

Wrong. Labels, if factual, have zero impact on sales. closeupready Jul 2015 #14

You can't possibly believe that. Orrex Jul 2015 #17

Should organic products be forced to label, "fertilized with cow shit" Major Nikon Jul 2015 #33

GMO products should be labeled as such. closeupready Jul 2015 #35

You didn't answer the questions Major Nikon Jul 2015 #38

most people know that crops are fertilized restorefreedom Jul 2015 #49

Why are "ignorance and fear" so widespread? Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2015 #15

Yes, it's ignorance and fear, repeatedly demonstrated right here on DU Orrex Jul 2015 #18

Soooo...why can't GMO corporations sell their product as safe and beneficial? Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2015 #19

You simply don't understand the issue Orrex Jul 2015 #20

Here's why I asked. Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2015 #25

Regardless... Orrex Jul 2015 #30

gratuitous makes some pretty good points in reply 32 above GitRDun Jul 2015 #85

Consumers have every right to want the labels Orrex Jul 2015 #91

They have every right to demand that their elected officials pass laws that require gmo labelling. GitRDun Jul 2015 #94

If you'll allow... CanSocDem Jul 2015 #27

Some illiteracy here. Science does not prove things. It just doesn't. immoderate Jul 2015 #29

You want to withhold information to help corporate profits DisgustipatedinCA Jul 2015 #36

Nope, try again Orrex Jul 2015 #89

Yes, in fact. "I know you are, but what am I" was invalidated after third grade. DisgustipatedinCA Jul 2015 #108

No, you're posting an objective lie. Orrex Jul 2015 #109

It's obviously not involunary action. Please show me where they're forced to sell food. DisgustipatedinCA Jul 2015 #110

That's a deflection. You're really no good at this "discussion" thing. Orrex Jul 2015 #112

Will GMOs Hurt My Body? The Public’s Concerns and How Scientists Have Addressed Them HuckleB Sep 2015 #119

If Mutation Bred Organisms are all that beneficial good, why aren't they labeled? HuckleB Aug 2015 #116

I tend to agree, although I think processors ought to label their food for those Hoyt Jul 2015 #11

Keep shilling that Monsanto BS! closeupready Jul 2015 #13

Standard kneejerk reply. Buzz Clik Jul 2015 #16

I have allergies to certain foods and chemicals. That's why I want GMO produce identified. haele Jul 2015 #31

You are less likely to experience an allergic reaction from GMO Major Nikon Jul 2015 #34

If one has data on one group and not on another then one cannot predict that either group is less GreatGazoo Jul 2015 #47

For one thing, that's simply not true Major Nikon Jul 2015 #51

The maxim I stated is true BUT there IS data for non-GMO because it IS tested after all (?) GreatGazoo Jul 2015 #54

Sure, after it's already created a problem Major Nikon Jul 2015 #57

Maxim: You can't compare two sets of data if you only have one set of data. GreatGazoo Jul 2015 #63

You can predict which one is more likely to cause a problem Major Nikon Jul 2015 #66

incorrect restorefreedom Jul 2015 #52

Your post provides a pretty good proof of the OP Major Nikon Jul 2015 #56

gmo crops are not proven safe re allergies restorefreedom Jul 2015 #59

Neither one supports your assertion Major Nikon Jul 2015 #62

yes i do restorefreedom Jul 2015 #65

Then please show me what law grants you that right Major Nikon Jul 2015 #68

the right to know what is in my food?? restorefreedom Jul 2015 #70

I'm not sure if you don't understand or you're being obtuse Major Nikon Jul 2015 #71

in this case they are one and the same. nt restorefreedom Jul 2015 #74

Corn does not stop being corn because it's been transgenically modified Major Nikon Jul 2015 #83

there's corn restorefreedom Jul 2015 #86

Sure Major Nikon Jul 2015 #88

this is clearly an impasse restorefreedom Jul 2015 #90

I have no interest in changing your mind Major Nikon Jul 2015 #93

So? If they aren't labeled, then consumers won't know what they're reacting to. pnwmom Jul 2015 #61

I don't believe anyone is petitioning for common allergens NOT to be labeled Major Nikon Jul 2015 #64

The GMO producers are fighting to continue not labeling GMO ingredients. pnwmom Jul 2015 #72

Not surprisingly given there's no proven risk Major Nikon Jul 2015 #73

I don't know why they don't support labeling because that stance is inconsistent pnwmom Jul 2015 #79

Seems entirely consistent Major Nikon Jul 2015 #82

We don't have mandatory pre-market testing with the FDA. So, in the absence of that, pnwmom Jul 2015 #84

There is no absence of testing Major Nikon Jul 2015 #87

There IS an absence of mandatory safety testing, and that's why the AMA is calling for it. pnwmom Jul 2015 #92

The AMA is not the only one calling for it Major Nikon Jul 2015 #95

Right now the producers can select which studies they submit to the FDA, pnwmom Jul 2015 #97

That would be a pretty good trick Major Nikon Jul 2015 #98

Not according to the AMA. In the statement in your own link. n/t pnwmom Jul 2015 #102

The testing of GMO's is voluntary, not mandatory. And the FDA has a conflict of interest pnwmom Jul 2015 #106

Point is, I don't have many reactions to common allergens. haele Jul 2015 #81

The reality is that other seed development technologies should scare you more. HuckleB Aug 2015 #115

I'm not looking for 'safer'. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2015 #37

You just won 10 minutes worth Free Fact Checking Service ! paragraph 2... GreatGazoo Jul 2015 #46

need something like... Wolverine23 Jul 2015 #53

I don't give a fuck about Monsanto's profits. If they want to keep losing the public trust then they GoneFishin Jul 2015 #58

+1000 nt laundry_queen Jul 2015 #80

No one should trust William Saletan, who wrote "Why I love Paul Ryan." pnwmom Jul 2015 #60

Hank Green on his YouTube podcast, SciShow, had to set the record straight cpwm17 Jul 2015 #67

One thing I never understood about the Anti-GMO argument, if its so obviously bad... Humanist_Activist Jul 2015 #69

It's possible to not be a purist in regards to GMOs. Oneironaut Jul 2015 #96

... X_Digger Jul 2015 #100

Fuck Slate. And fuck the Monsanto shills. kestrel91316 Jul 2015 #101

What a thoughtful and nuanced perspective. Bonx Jul 2015 #111

Farmers turn to GMO-free crops to boost income JEB Jul 2015 #103

Fuck everyone who is trying to force me to purchase and eat GMO's. They Zorra Jul 2015 #104

Insulin is all from genetically modified bacteria these days eridani Jul 2015 #105

A very thorough piece, that covers the reality of the situation. HuckleB Jul 2015 #113