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Paladin

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52. And shootings reported in Maine, this morning.

Fri Jul 17, 2015, 09:41 AM

Jul 2015

You know, we're just short a year of the 50th anniversary of the Charles Whitman shootings (August 1, 1966). I lived in Austin at the time, and one of many things I remember about that horror show is how profoundly it affected the whole country. All the news magazines had it as a cover story, and the TV networks had all sorts of news and analysis of the incident---because back then, it was genuine news. And now? Mass shootings are so common that they barely survive a single news cycle. Such are the times we live in. It won't always be this way; one of these days, people will look back on our era and wonder how such a small portion of the populace could provide cover for so much mayhem and destruction, all in the name of a right they deemed more important than the lives of so many. What a tragedy our gun policies are.

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Americans Don't Have the Right to Bear Just Any Arms [View all] SecularMotion Jul 2015 OP

IBTL hobbit709 Jul 2015 #1

This shouldn't be locked SecularMotion Jul 2015 #2

The OP isn't a news story, it's an opinion piece. nt Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2015 #4

A whiney one at best. imthevicar Jul 2015 #21

Have to agree with the article comments. Hangingon Jul 2015 #60

Its a legit news article 951-Riverside Jul 2015 #3

Looks like a big op-ed to me, explaining why an historically anti-gun publication... Eleanors38 Jul 2015 #92

Very pertinent to the mass killing we had just yesterday. onehandle Jul 2015 #5

Barring the obvious, here's what scares me about gun control. tecelote Jul 2015 #6

Pro Choice activists and the NRA have something in common Emelina Jul 2015 #7

What? blackspade Jul 2015 #15

They are brainwashed into thinking that ANY new gun law leads to taking away guns! Dustlawyer Jul 2015 #16

We're still waiting for the Controllers to actually enforce the laws already on the books. Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2015 #24

Many would disagree with those unsubstantiated claims. russ1943 Jul 2015 #67

Hell, they don't enforce the TOS in Guns Discussion. Eleanors38 Jul 2015 #87

Hosts try to be guided by the SoP as well as the stickied thread at the top of GD petronius Jul 2015 #95

What regulations of abortion do you see as warranted and not an attempt to gollygee Jul 2015 #47

sensible gun control lancer78 Jul 2015 #99

Interesting middle ground piece more fitting for GCRA or GC&RKBA aka the Castle and Gungeon aikoaiko Jul 2015 #8

From the article SecularMotion Jul 2015 #10

Rightfully so. We should NOT discriminate against vets with mental health issues unless dangerous ... aikoaiko Jul 2015 #11

Unfortunately, the gun control crowd cannot be trusted. Indydem Jul 2015 #9

I'd be happy enough to take your guns out of your cold, dead hands. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2015 #12

Thank you. Indydem Jul 2015 #13

They can give your heirs the value of the gun. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2015 #14

So TeddyR Jul 2015 #20

Because no gun carries historical value. AtheistCrusader Jul 2015 #62

If they're rendered unfireable, sure. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2015 #73

Um, why? AtheistCrusader Jul 2015 #75

"Why do we need to destroy these guns again?" To assuage a moral panic, apparently... friendly_iconoclast Jul 2015 #78

See? It's not worth the time it takes to type a response. Indydem Jul 2015 #83

Just like people never drive Historical or collectors cars. NutmegYankee Jul 2015 #88

The list you quoted from the op-Ed piece contain contradictions. Hangingon Jul 2015 #61

In this case, that could be something like a flash suppressor. AtheistCrusader Jul 2015 #63

Who come up with the stupid "artwork" for the cover. ileus Jul 2015 #17

I think the "stupid" is the point, and an apt one. Hoyt Jul 2015 #18

Aw, c'mon! You're not jonesin' for a dual magazine CZ-75? Lizzie Poppet Jul 2015 #86

I heard them saying on CNN a short while qgo malaise Jul 2015 #19

Probably was not an AK-47 Duckhunter935 Jul 2015 #22

"What society allows citizens access to weapons of war?" Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2015 #28

That's BS - have a look at the empirical evidence malaise Jul 2015 #29

I take it you didn't click the provided link. Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2015 #31

You're right malaise Jul 2015 #32

People in Srebrenica gave up their guns in exchange for guarantee of safety Telcontar Jul 2015 #33

Germany, Austria, France, the Czech Republic, Italy, Russia, Sweden, Finland.. sir pball Jul 2015 #35

"Your dead marines don't trump our right to guns and badass-looking accessories." Paladin Jul 2015 #23

What "badass-looking accessories" did Abdulazeez employ? Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2015 #27

30 round magazines aren't exactly used for hunting... Historic NY Jul 2015 #38

The RKBA is not about game hunting. Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2015 #39

I actually will coyote hunt with 30s. ileus Jul 2015 #70

I doubt your awkward question will be answered friendly_iconoclast Jul 2015 #76

I get that a lot. Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2015 #77

You do a fine job of countering 'poisoning the well' posts like that one friendly_iconoclast Jul 2015 #79

Yet, I'm not the technical expert like some of you guys. I just know when Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2015 #84

Dead Marines, dead African-Americans praying in their church malaise Jul 2015 #30

Full autos are a pain in the ass to acquire, currently. Paladin Jul 2015 #37

Shakes head malaise Jul 2015 #46

And shootings reported in Maine, this morning. Paladin Jul 2015 #52

Hadn't heard of that one malaise Jul 2015 #55

Too bad we were not guaranteed libodem Jul 2015 #41

+1. Paladin Jul 2015 #43

And not just in America malaise Jul 2015 #44

I despise guns libodem Jul 2015 #48

Back at yah malaise Jul 2015 #54

More people die of second-hand smoke than guns every year. nt Adrahil Jul 2015 #25

Link to that claim? P.S. Smoking is BANNED in many places. WinkyDink Jul 2015 #82

Right on the cdc website Adrahil Jul 2015 #97

And who says libodem Jul 2015 #26

The US Government, see 10 US Code Section 301 happyslug Jul 2015 #34

I still think is more akin libodem Jul 2015 #40

If you read the article, assult Weapons/rifles are NOT a problem happyslug Jul 2015 #53

Do gun advocates seriously think they are going to stop a dictatorship from happening? jalan48 Jul 2015 #36

Modern militaries are too expensive and too lethal to effectively field large number of forces. Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2015 #42

That is not the reason I own guns. hack89 Jul 2015 #49

Ban all guns! n/t PowerToThePeople Jul 2015 #45

Thanks for your support. nt hack89 Jul 2015 #50

I'll drive the collection vehicle libodem Jul 2015 #51

And when people decline to comply? Then what? Mere registration has < 5% compliancy. Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2015 #57

Last time I replied to a "they won't comply" thread my post was hidden. ileus Jul 2015 #72

But will you do the collecting? Eleanors38 Jul 2015 #94

Powerlessness To The People! Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2015 #56

Only in your nra deluded mind. PowerToThePeople Jul 2015 #58

Well, cops seem to be having a field day killing and injurying unarmed citizens. Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2015 #59

Ummm, FYI, Darb Jul 2015 #65

Oh blaming the 2nd amendment for cop brutality. former9thward Jul 2015 #68

Happens all the time. Some like to pretend that citizens just got guns recently TheKentuckian Jul 2015 #89

Eric Garner & Freddy Grey weren't killed because the cops feared for their lives. Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2015 #74

Truth. PowerToThePeople Jul 2015 #91

It is so obvious, the solution is more guns. Darb Jul 2015 #64

It starts off with a bit of a strawman, but the specific suggestions are rather good: petronius Jul 2015 #66

I live near an alternate flight path. KamaAina Jul 2015 #69

Why won't guns stop killing people...hateful things. ileus Jul 2015 #71

Strange that a lot of otherwise rational folks believe in animism... friendly_iconoclast Jul 2015 #81

Perhaps the "Strict Constructionists" would limit "arms" to those extant in 1776. WinkyDink Jul 2015 #80

Only if they issue their opinion on moveable-type press. AtheistCrusader Jul 2015 #85

Works for me! WinkyDink Jul 2015 #98

So, it's Gunz Discussion time again? Eleanors38 Jul 2015 #90

Time for you to complain, again, because people are criticizing your need for gunz. Hoyt Jul 2015 #93

Actuaaly, it seems like your usual suspects. Got two groups, still can't build a movement Eleanors38 Jul 2015 #96