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SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
78. Sounds as if she may have been left the money outright,
Sat Jul 18, 2015, 09:52 AM
Jul 2015

rather than in a 529 plan, or in a UGMA (Uniform Gift to Minors Act) account. It also matters which state she lives in, as some allow full access and control at age 18, others not until age 21.

We lived in Kansas, which is an age 21 access and control age, right next to Missouri which is age 18. My childrens' grandparents were very generous and gifted them with money, as well as set up a 529 account for each. My older son has always been very responsible and frugal. Younger son was far less so, especially growing up. By the time they were in their mid-teens we made sure they knew about the money, saw how much there was, participated in investment decisions, but could not have free access to the money.

I honestly think if younger son had been able to get and spend the money, much of it would have been squandered by the time he was 21. Instead, by that age he appreciated what he has, treats it as the irreplaceable nest egg it is. Recently when his car completely died and he needed a new one, he consulted with me and bought a good used car.

Had the money been left to Kim as a 529, she could only have used it for legitimate school expenses: tuition, room & board, books, fees, maybe a couple of other items. Not a trip to Europe.

I am very pleased that the parents are not willing to just give her more money.

A while back when I was attending my local junior college, a noticeable number of kids in the classroom had spent a year, maybe two, at a four-year school where they'd partied and done badly, and for every one the parents had said they weren't underwriting any more of that crap. Now the kids lived at home, and some of them had to demonstrated good grades before the parents would pay for the semester at the community college. All of those kids recognized that they'd blown it before, but were very glad of this second chance.

This young woman, while something of an extreme example, is one day going to be carefully explaining why, despite an income that puts her in the top 10 or 15 percent, cannot possibly afford to save a penny. And I see an awful lot of that out there. Most people live exactly at the edge of their income, often a bit beyond, and think getting a brand-new car every few years is simply the way you live. And owning the nicest possible home, with a mortgage payment that's 40% of their income is absolutely okay.

I do have some hope that this young lady will learn her lesson.

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This message was self-deleted by its author petronius Jul 2015 #1
I bet this is fake. Seems like trolling for attention / anger. Oneironaut Jul 2015 #2
I believe you are not correct dballance Jul 2015 #12
I got $48,000 insurance settlement and spent it in less then 6 months. vinny9698 Jul 2015 #19
Not all investments, but a lot of durable goods in that list. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2015 #43
I agree with you - there are many who don't start with $90,000 karynnj Jul 2015 #20
She used some of the money to pay for a trip to Europe. jeff47 Jul 2015 #31
Right - and her parents, though they legally may not have been able to stop her, karynnj Jul 2015 #58
Yeah, but sometimes the kid has to "skin their knee" before they'll listen. jeff47 Jul 2015 #60
yep. if it's a UGMA acct the kid gets it all at 18 elehhhhna Jul 2015 #79
Siiiggghhh . . . . HughBeaumont Jul 2015 #3
Didn't even bother to read the link. The real problem is tuition costs, not Kim. n/t demmiblue Jul 2015 #4
She had enough money to cover tuition Matrosov Jul 2015 #5
No...the problem is Kim Rebubula Jul 2015 #7
No, no you can't. demmiblue Jul 2015 #8
OK...fine Rebubula Jul 2015 #9
No, the problem is whoever thought it was a good idea to give that kind of money kcr Jul 2015 #13
Yep. Hard to imagine that going well. I actually think making it three years is pretty good for stevenleser Jul 2015 #27
My stepdaughter at 19 would have had no problem managing that money. Maedhros Jul 2015 #28
My eldest daughter would have done well too, she's almost scary responsible. But that isn't typical stevenleser Jul 2015 #33
Good for your daughter. I don't believe I said all. kcr Jul 2015 #38
At eighteen, a child becomes an adult. Maedhros Jul 2015 #44
If that's your parenting philosphy, hey. Whatever floats your boat. kcr Jul 2015 #53
I dislike how we, as a society, have started treating college students as if they are children. Maedhros Jul 2015 #68
I think the problem starts long before college. cui bono Jul 2015 #85
Have you ever read Samuel Butler's novel tblue37 Jul 2015 #42
I've not read it, but kcr Jul 2015 #55
Yes but when I was reading that book low info coworkers accused me of reading porn Person 2713 Jul 2015 #63
So it's her grandparents' fault for being so generous? mainer Jul 2015 #66
Not necessarily kcr Jul 2015 #74
BTW, U of MD cost per year is $24,587. demmiblue Jul 2015 #14
That is all costs estimated, not just tuition, which is under $10k. bluedigger Jul 2015 #21
$60 K went to tuition in three years leaving 10K per year to live on. What's everyone yarping about Monk06 Jul 2015 #61
The grandparents should have put the parents in charge of the fund. Obviously its the kids fault for stevenleser Jul 2015 #6
I know at that age I would have spent most of the money on fast women and raucous parties . . . Journeyman Jul 2015 #11
;-) +1 nt stevenleser Jul 2015 #34
Keep this in mind. Igel Jul 2015 #23
Yep. And you can see why the loans are given out one semester at a time. stevenleser Jul 2015 #26
Kids have to screw up sometime. jeff47 Jul 2015 #32
I'm sure she's a real person. Brickbat Jul 2015 #10
It was foolish to put her in charge of that much money. HappyMe Jul 2015 #15
Where is Geraldo when you really need him? nt bemildred Jul 2015 #16
I'm not listening to her tale of woe. Paladin Jul 2015 #17
The footnote to the story I wanna know.... dixiegrrrrl Jul 2015 #22
I'm of the opinion that the purpose of University education is to become educated, not trained. Maedhros Jul 2015 #29
By that standard, she has gotten her education already, then. dixiegrrrrl Jul 2015 #40
Education comes from many sources, not just books and institutions. Maedhros Jul 2015 #46
I agree to a certain extent. HappyMe Jul 2015 #41
But it takes a special type of ignorance to get into a mountain of debt TexasMommaWithAHat Jul 2015 #48
My degree is in Geology, with an advanced degree in High Temperature Geochemistry. Maedhros Jul 2015 #49
And I'm sure you had no intention of doing the work you are doing TexasMommaWithAHat Jul 2015 #50
Well, we need teachers and social workers. Maedhros Jul 2015 #67
Yes, we do. TexasMommaWithAHat Jul 2015 #70
Your finances, your call. :) Maedhros Jul 2015 #71
I support tax-payer funded junior college and technical college for all TexasMommaWithAHat Jul 2015 #75
yep. my kids a 4th yr theatre major elehhhhna Jul 2015 #80
I have a B.A. in History, one of those 'worthless' degrees. Made a pretty good living as a lawyer. Shrike47 Jul 2015 #59
Would have answered you sooner, dixiegrrrrl Jul 2015 #72
Hey, thanks. My trip through educationland was damned strange and I wasn't offended. Shrike47 Jul 2015 #76
Same here. dixiegrrrrl Jul 2015 #84
Her story is extreme. Igel Jul 2015 #25
She didn't LOSE her education. She just has to get a loan for the last year Yo_Mama Jul 2015 #39
Europe? ....EUROPE? Warren DeMontague Jul 2015 #18
Europe must sound so far away DFW Jul 2015 #36
Poor pretty pretty princess. NT B2G Jul 2015 #24
So she will only have about 20k debt JI7 Jul 2015 #30
She should apply for a Federal Stafford taught_me_patience Jul 2015 #35
My 20 year old niece Nicole was left $42K by NY mother TexasBushwhacker Jul 2015 #37
smart grandma. elehhhhna Jul 2015 #81
She knew that was the only way she could go to college TexasBushwhacker Jul 2015 #82
too close to home for me to comment olddots Jul 2015 #45
I am not sure how good I would have handled money at age 22 Liberal_in_LA Jul 2015 #47
I was great at it! Phentex Jul 2015 #56
I would have spent it faster than a fire could have consumed it. jeff47 Jul 2015 #62
lol. Liberal_in_LA Jul 2015 #73
Most college aged kids can't manage money for shit. Warpy Jul 2015 #51
That's what trust funds are for. KamaAina Jul 2015 #52
$30,000 a year for tuition, books, incidentals and living expenses Warpy Jul 2015 #54
The total yearly cost for my youngest daughter's university was a bit over $38,000 Adsos Letter Jul 2015 #69
Why didn't her parents teach her how to take better care of herself? snot Jul 2015 #57
They might not have. They might have. jeff47 Jul 2015 #64
Not a new story. I saw it when I was in university in the '60s, NCjack Jul 2015 #65
I can sympathize with her situation, but not blaming her parents. Shrike47 Jul 2015 #77
Sounds as if she may have been left the money outright, SheilaT Jul 2015 #78
It's not her money mismanagement that irks me; it's her attitude mainer Jul 2015 #83
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