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mntleo2

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64. Oh and PeeEss:

Sun Jul 19, 2015, 05:25 AM

Jul 2015

Here are some wonky links to give proof of what I am saying. My best and most definitive information was taken from The National Coalition for Child Protection Reform. This organization does their homework (Robert Wexler is their Director).

Evidence for keeping Families together: http://nccpr.info/the-evidence-is-in-foster-care-vs-keeping-families-together-the-definitive-studies/
Here is the original study for the above: http://www.mit.edu/~jjdoyle/fostercare_aer.pdf

Child Abuse after being taken: Shattered Bonds: The Color of Child Welfare BY Dorothy E Roberts is a in depth study of children who have been removed from their families and the evidence of how badly it fails.
ABC News Report: Foster-Care System Stretched Too Far http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/story?id=130266
http://www.buzzfeed.com/aramroston/fostering-profits#.hpRAzpz35

I have lots more info I can give but the facts have been documented for decades ~ and are studiously ignored because of the mega-funding that pays far more to gatekeepers who benefit more if they get funding for removing children from their homes rather than giving the family services that could improve their lives, not destroy them.

My 2 cents (again),

Cat in Seattle

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Single mom arrested for ‘abandoning’ her kids at food court while interviewing for job 30 feet away [View all] RandySF Jul 2015 OP

In these times, she's lucky the kids aren't orphans. HooptieWagon Jul 2015 #1

I've been through this. RandySF Jul 2015 #5

I wouldn't doubt they are working on that. lpbk2713 Jul 2015 #7

Baloney ! virgogal Jul 2015 #16

Quite true... cops are outt of control, they get green light from DoJ, everyone is afraid of cops whereisjustice Jul 2015 #29

No problem Turbineguy Jul 2015 #2

30 feet within line of sight is not a problem even for a 6 and 2 year old. aikoaiko Jul 2015 #3

"Crying." Igel Jul 2015 #19

That is an important detail. It helps explain why a citizen might call the police. aikoaiko Jul 2015 #21

Some, too many, cops are just aholes who once they decide to arrest you . . . brush Jul 2015 #46

This, too. Igel Jul 2015 #62

How do we know they were crying.... msrizzo Jul 2015 #27

I could tell when my kids were crying just because they didn't get something they wanted, or didn't Ghost in the Machine Jul 2015 #36

That justifies the call to police, but not the arrest. Yo_Mama Jul 2015 #47

I once watched my sister in law stay on the phone mnhtnbb Jul 2015 #56

I'm sorry, but it's not. She was right there. Those children were not abandoned. kcr Jul 2015 #66

Six-year-old and two-year-old LittleBlue Jul 2015 #4

They HAD adult supervision. Mom was there and able to watch them the whole time! nt tblue37 Jul 2015 #17

Why are you saying they didn't have adult supervision when she was 30 feet away? n/t gollygee Jul 2015 #49

how much attention could she pay to them and to her interview simultaneously? onenote Jul 2015 #72

This is so fucking stupid I want to cry Warpy Jul 2015 #6

I agree. delta17 Jul 2015 #52

I bet Depaysement Jul 2015 #8

Again it is a bystander who called the police yeoman6987 Jul 2015 #9

Really? WinkyDink Jul 2015 #10

CPS was there. No way the police are going to let this go yeoman6987 Jul 2015 #12

I disagree LordGlenconner Jul 2015 #18

An arrest probably was out of order, but I disagree about the "meddling busy body." A Simple Game Jul 2015 #20

Right on all counts. If their intellectually curiousity and detective skills are so numb that they GoneFishin Jul 2015 #35

what police are hired to do... icarusxat Jul 2015 #32

They can ASK QUESTIONS Warpy Jul 2015 #34

OTOH, why could she not have taken the children inside wherever she was interviewed? WinkyDink Jul 2015 #11

They were inside BrotherIvan Jul 2015 #13

THIS. That's correct. No childcare lostnfound Jul 2015 #40

They absolutely do BrotherIvan Jul 2015 #44

if she had a job she could have paid for childcare 6chars Jul 2015 #81

I know what a mall food court is! Aside from the larger social issue, 30' ain't 5'. J/S. WinkyDink Jul 2015 #67

Then you should know they were inside n/t kcr Jul 2015 #70

Fear of being rejected for the job? Xipe Totec Jul 2015 #14

It takes VERY little to get rejected in this job market. RandySF Jul 2015 #15

That's not possible. I had employers threaten to fire me because my kids passed through the office Hekate Jul 2015 #33

Because,really, her life doesn't appear to be tough enough. mountain grammy Jul 2015 #22

That is just callous, brain-dead policing. No arrest was necessary. Comrade Grumpy Jul 2015 #23

What happened was he never existed. cstanleytech Jul 2015 #25

My mother would have been arrested multiple times. stage left Jul 2015 #24

If she was in the area close by and could see them, i dont see a problem. Warren DeMontague Jul 2015 #26

What would have been a story packman Jul 2015 #28

"A nation of snitches." How many of these unfortunate police incidents begin with a snitch NBachers Jul 2015 #30

Getting somebody involved when a two year old is alone is not snitching Travis_0004 Jul 2015 #37

In most states it is the law Omaha Steve Jul 2015 #38

The mom was 30 feet away within sight gollygee Jul 2015 #50

Did the kids know where she was Travis_0004 Jul 2015 #54

30 feet isn't that far gollygee Jul 2015 #55

Was the kid wearing a sign saying "My mom is 30 feet away"? ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jul 2015 #61

Did the cops have to arrest her when they realized the mom was 30 feet away? kcr Jul 2015 #69

The cops were idiots. That has nothing to do with my comment. ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jul 2015 #71

Who's shitting on the bystander? The problem is she was arrested. n/t kcr Jul 2015 #73

Have you even bothered to read this subthread? ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jul 2015 #74

Yes, I did kcr Jul 2015 #75

So you completely ignored that this subthread.... ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jul 2015 #77

No, I didn't ignore how the subthread was started, but why does it matter? kcr Jul 2015 #78

You asked "Who's shitting on the bystander?" ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jul 2015 #79

Yes, because no one was shitting on the bystander n/t kcr Jul 2015 #80

Yeah, you're right ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jul 2015 #82

Nonsense Lulu Belle Jul 2015 #42

She's lucky she didn't get beaten and shot litlbilly Jul 2015 #31

Single moms have nowhere to turn for help, and a single dad would have been applauded lostnfound Jul 2015 #39

This is not just about cops, it is about CPS funding mntleo2 Jul 2015 #41

CPS False Allegations, Altered Files Confirmed - OIG, News32 Investigations P1-3 2006-07 me b zola Jul 2015 #48

It is also a "solution" to families in poverty mntleo2 Jul 2015 #63

Oh and PeeEss: mntleo2 Jul 2015 #64

This has been a problem in Kentucky too. KentuckyWoman Jul 2015 #68

I just left my 5-yr old child out of eyesight twice today alone NickB79 Jul 2015 #43

I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess she's not a white woman NickB79 Jul 2015 #45

Yeah that pretty well went without saying gollygee Jul 2015 #51

Uh oh, you used the p-word. U4ikLefty Jul 2015 #59

Thanks. But I think your headline should say "Black mom" instead of "single mom" because pnwmom Jul 2015 #53

sad Liberal_in_LA Jul 2015 #57

It is hard to be poor in this country nt artislife Jul 2015 #58

In addition to steroids romanic Jul 2015 #60

And the cops didn't shoot her? Emelina Jul 2015 #65

Surprise, surprise! KamaAina Jul 2015 #76