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DetlefK

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22. So, what's the alternative?

Mon Jul 20, 2015, 05:18 AM

Jul 2015

We need a plan that punishes banksters, oligarchs, tax-evaders and all the corrupt politicians who accumulated this debt while saving the ordinary tax-evading greek people and the savings they have in bank-accounts. And of course, the plan contains safeguards to prevent similar out-of-control borrow&spend in the future.

You have a plan that could do that?

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The Failed Project of Europe [View all] marmar Jul 2015 OP

Don't be ridiculous. The greek referendum was simply a sham to buy time. DetlefK Jul 2015 #1

Absolutely agree.... BooScout Jul 2015 #2

Robert Reich appears to present a different story. Emelina Jul 2015 #5

Goldman Sachs is not a member of the EU; they were employed by the Greek governments muriel_volestrangler Jul 2015 #10

He blames the banks while totally ignoring that they were doing Lee-Lee Jul 2015 #23

What? Put more stock in Reich's analysis that in some angry anonymous rightwing internet poster!? villager Jul 2015 #28

Way to go! Sticking up for the oligarchs and banksters of Europe truebluegreen Jul 2015 #3

Was anything I said incorrect? DetlefK Jul 2015 #4

The implication that the Greek people have truebluegreen Jul 2015 #7

Greeks elected Syriza which never wanted to leave the EU or the euro. If Greeks want out of the EU, pampango Jul 2015 #14

Nope..... BooScout Jul 2015 #8

That's true. Sometimes they are crazy. DetlefK Jul 2015 #20

What situating are we talking about? Greece? JonLP24 Jul 2015 #43

The nerve! Orrex Jul 2015 #35

yes Johnyawl Jul 2015 #11

So, what's the alternative? DetlefK Jul 2015 #22

You're missing a key ingredient to any plan Johnyawl Jul 2015 #24

Okay, let's downsize the plan. DetlefK Jul 2015 #26

Agree: Greece needs reforms first... Johnyawl Jul 2015 #29

But who in Greece should we give that money? DetlefK Jul 2015 #32

I'm not sure on how the money should be pumped into the Greek economy... Johnyawl Jul 2015 #33

+10 million and I'm an Irish woman. Ireland is also amongst the troubled EU riderinthestorm Jul 2015 #40

The Greeks voted out the crooks who have been pulling this crap killbotfactory Jul 2015 #13

As Schäuble said: "A contract is a contract." DetlefK Jul 2015 #21

. randome Jul 2015 #25

How will forcing Greece to adopt reforms that will never work help anybody? killbotfactory Jul 2015 #30

Are you trying to tell me... DetlefK Jul 2015 #31

Be like the Argentines... MattSh Jul 2015 #19

Radix malorum est cupiditas. ananda Jul 2015 #6

Even in the German parliament, there were 65 voices of dissent Betty Karlson Jul 2015 #9

My advice to any country in financial distress nilesobek Jul 2015 #12

The consequence of not taking any money from Europe was that the banks shut down. Yo_Mama Jul 2015 #34

Do you think the rich in Greece are getting over nilesobek Jul 2015 #36

They do need to fix the corruption Yo_Mama Jul 2015 #37

It might be a cultural thing in Greece. nilesobek Jul 2015 #44

The European right has known for decades that the EU is a 'failed project'. That is a core belief of pampango Jul 2015 #15

Continental cooperation is one thing..... marmar Jul 2015 #16

The European right does not want anything that enforces anything on sovereign countries. pampango Jul 2015 #17

Collecting taxes is now a rightwing conspiracy???? n/t Yo_Mama Jul 2015 #38

Huh marmar Jul 2015 #39

Now that I think about it, cemaphonic Jul 2015 #18

Times change HassleCat Jul 2015 #27

This is a paper written in 2003 about Greece's entry into the EMU Yo_Mama Jul 2015 #41

Actually, there was a lot of skepticism in the Euro zone about letting Greece in DFW Jul 2015 #42