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jwirr

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112. Your post was used as a link on another post commenting on the BLM protest at NN. The new

Mon Jul 20, 2015, 10:05 AM

Jul 2015

post asked why anyone would scream at protestors who were making a lot of noise. What I answer was - so that the speaker could be heard. You might ask why your original post was a link in the first place.

This whole argument has been just about as crazy as DU has ever been while I have been on and a whole bunch of unrelated stuff has been thrown in. I did not look to see when your post was dated

Sorry.

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Just posted this on GetEqual's FB page (re: Michelle Obama heckler) [View all] markpkessinger Jun 2013 OP

Thanks Mark, for your level headed rational response to the idiocy shown by Ms. Sturtz. Tarheel_Dem Jun 2013 #1

So the President should never sign an EO because the next one might reverse it? LonePirate Jun 2013 #51

What the White House said just hours before Michelle's speech, below Tx4obama Jun 2013 #69

Excellent points eissa Jun 2013 #2

She probably got more than she expected. If she had waited for the appropriate time would A Simple Game Jun 2013 #6

Not all publicity is good publicity eissa Jun 2013 #8

All publicity is publicity. It gets the message out. No, it probably won't change peoples minds A Simple Game Jun 2013 #24

Shouldn't the aim be making changes instead of making scenes? eissa Jun 2013 #28

Not always zipplewrath Jun 2013 #32

The White House restated their position hours before Michelle's speech, below Tx4obama Jun 2013 #70

Still waiting for that to ACTUALLY HAPPEN. Fearless Jun 2013 #82

Senator Harkin has said that he will hold a vote on ENDA this year. Tx4obama Jun 2013 #83

And it will pass the House? Fearless Jun 2013 #84

Which probably wouldn't have satisfied the heckler zipplewrath Jun 2013 #90

Wrong.... we're not talking about any agenda right now, we're talking about horrible bahavior groundloop Jun 2013 #31

Zero discussion? You even mention it in your post saying it is not discussed. A Simple Game Jun 2013 #35

The only thing that got exposed leftynyc Jun 2013 #38

No � 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2013 #45

She could have done it for a selfish reason, I don't know, nor do I care. A Simple Game Jun 2013 #57

And ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2013 #58

You may be right, depends on how long it stays in the news. n/t A Simple Game Jun 2013 #59

So ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2013 #68

The First Lady should have stood there quietly and allowed the heckler JDPriestly Jun 2013 #78

??? onpatrol98 Jun 2013 #86

This is not about race. Watch how well President Obama handles JDPriestly Jun 2013 #108

Interesting... onpatrol98 Jun 2013 #109

Pres. Clinton used to listen to hecklers and talk to them Kurovski Jun 2013 #107

Great logic, mark. Major Hogwash Jun 2013 #3

thank you! handmade34 Jun 2013 #4

+1 onpatrol98 Jun 2013 #5

Excellent post leftynyc Jun 2013 #7

First Obama needs to apologize dbackjon Jun 2013 #10

ONLY Obama needs to apologize? Nothing about the previous 43 Presidents? Thats telling. JaneyVee Jun 2013 #11

Are the previous 43 still in office? dbackjon Jun 2013 #13

No but 41, 42, & 43 are still alive. JaneyVee Jun 2013 #17

And have little power dbackjon Jun 2013 #20

And has done more for gay rights then every President combined in US history. JaneyVee Jun 2013 #23

The only answer you will get is: "But only because it was politically possible". Liberal Veteran Jun 2013 #55

How wrong you are. dbackjon Jun 2013 #98

I don't dismiss the role of activism. I do, however, reject your assertion about "our money". Liberal Veteran Jun 2013 #99

I expect a President and a party that can multi-task dbackjon Jun 2013 #101

And what is your criteria for deciding which speaking events can focus on another issue? Liberal Veteran Jun 2013 #102

You are ignoring that the speech was a fundraiser for corporations dbackjon Jun 2013 #103

I see. Heckling is saintly behavior that must be rewarded. Liberal Veteran Jun 2013 #104

Protesting a worthy cause is dbackjon Jun 2013 #105

And still thinks Gay Rights are a state's rights issue dbackjon Jun 2013 #97

I do hope this "little power" stays true DonCoquixote Jun 2013 #96

Seriously panader0 Jun 2013 #19

Take it up with the President leftynyc Jun 2013 #36

One moment. The 1st sitting President to openly support gay marriage need to apologize to gays? Liberal Veteran Jun 2013 #54

+ I can't even begin to write a number that large Number23 Jun 2013 #76

. bunnies Jun 2013 #91

You mean Obama that opposed Gay Marriage dbackjon Jun 2013 #93

yeah that last guy DonCoquixote Jun 2013 #95

The evening was a DNC political fundraiser. While the topic was important Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #12

So fucking what? leftynyc Jun 2013 #37

Ruined their evening. Boo fucking hoo. What rarified world they must live in Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #40

Ah - I had no idea I was dealing with a child leftynyc Jun 2013 #41

They were there to talk about inner city children treestar Jun 2013 #62

^THIS^ SunSeeker Jun 2013 #72

I'm not sure urinating on an equally worthy topic is ever effective. Liberal Veteran Jun 2013 #73

Exactly. SunSeeker Jun 2013 #75

They were there to raise money for the DNC. Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #79

As a gay man dbackjon Jun 2013 #9

There is a flip side, and it is not specific to this event. Fire Walk With Me Jun 2013 #14

Didn't hear anything "snotty" or "selfish" about her statement. JaneyVee Jun 2013 #18

If the protester is a toddler, why does the adult have to threaten to walk away from it? n/t Fire Walk With Me Jun 2013 #46

Excellent post - and one hundred percent agree dbackjon Jun 2013 #21

What about Michelle's "rights" to be heard without being disrupted??? Major Hogwash Jun 2013 #39

I don't really care either way but I think Sturtz did a smart thing. As for spin? A Simple Game Jun 2013 #42

You're missing two points of the post you've replied to. Fire Walk With Me Jun 2013 #47

Why can't I get anyone to respond about where you draw the line in re private property? I'm agreeing patrice Jun 2013 #53

K&R. Totally agree. The time and place to speak about inequality is always 'here and now'. idwiyo Jun 2013 #88

As a hetero LittleGirl Jun 2013 #15

"Ms. Sturtz's actions reflected badly on the4 entire LGBT community." NCTraveler Jun 2013 #16

Yup - most gays I know applauded her actions dbackjon Jun 2013 #22

if that had been ann romney, more DUers would be applauding her actions as well. frylock Jun 2013 #25

Well maybe it would be because eissa Jun 2013 #29

When it became politically ok for them to be supportive dbackjon Jun 2013 #33

i think it's because people, in general, are extremely partisan.. frylock Jun 2013 #63

No, they would not treestar Jun 2013 #61

yep. more so on facebook. not so much here. nt boilerbabe Jun 2013 #26

I haven't acted as though I were a "spokesman" at all . . . markpkessinger Jun 2013 #43

I really dont care who or what she is or what she has to say... jessie04 Jun 2013 #27

Very well said, Mark, and thank you! Glorfindel Jun 2013 #30

And I agree with you old friend. Mark speaks for those of us who understand who our allies are Rowdyboy Jun 2013 #74

Same here, Rowdyboy! Us Mississippians need to stick together. Glorfindel Jun 2013 #94

Way to go, Dude. Way to go! nt MrScorpio Jun 2013 #34

Excellent on you! � 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2013 #44

Some people call that a part of the 1st Amendment, but what are you gonna do. n/t Fire Walk With Me Jun 2013 #48

Yep ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2013 #49

Power concedes nothing without a demand. ~Frederick Douglass Fire Walk With Me Jun 2013 #50

True ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2013 #52

Frederick Douglass was also one who didn't cede his platform to hecklers. onpatrol98 Jun 2013 #80

LGBTQ people suffer from inequal rights and this is unacceptable in any form. I'm sure that Fire Walk With Me Jun 2013 #81

Frederick Douglass onpatrol98 Jun 2013 #85

You are correct, I cannot surmise his reaction, however I hope the gist is taken. n/t Fire Walk With Me Jun 2013 #89

I get the gist of it...but, I always got the gist of it. onpatrol98 Jun 2013 #92

Well said. And you made some great points. BenzoDia Jun 2013 #56

Great point about executive orders treestar Jun 2013 #60

Thanks mark! Cha Jun 2013 #64

An immature self promoter got treated as she deserved. alphafemale Jun 2013 #65

Apparently, you're not alone Mark. Amanda Turkel reports that Ms. Sturtz was.... Tarheel_Dem Jun 2013 #66

Spot on, Mark! After thinking about it for a while I've concluded Strutz wanted her 15. alp227 Jun 2013 #67

Topical and in public DevonRex Jun 2013 #71

Dan Choi was mercilessly crucified right here on DU ruggerson Jun 2013 #87

Glad to hear your perspective. Thanks for sharing it. Number23 Jun 2013 #77

K & R Scurrilous Jun 2013 #100

The couple who hosted the party... Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2013 #106

When no one can hear what you are saying. jwirr Jul 2015 #110

I'm not exactly sure what your comment means . . . markpkessinger Jul 2015 #111

Your post was used as a link on another post commenting on the BLM protest at NN. The new jwirr Jul 2015 #112

Thanks for clarifying . . . markpkessinger Jul 2015 #113