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whereisjustice

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Mon Jul 20, 2015, 04:00 PM Jul 2015

Dear BLM, I just discovered there is an old, white, tough on crime millionaire [View all]

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who advocated the exact polices that NAACP says has been destructive to Black lives.

Hillary Clinton is nearly 70 years old, white, with an estimated net worth of $31,195,006 in 2010.
http://www.opensecrets.org/pfds/summary.php?CID=N00000019&year=2010

A supporter of conservative economic, law enforcement and military policies, in 1994 she proclaimed:

"We need more police, we need more and tougher prison sentences for repeat offenders...

"We need more prisons..."

"three strikes... has to be part of the plan."


Here's what the NAACP says:

Racial Disparities in Incarceration
African Americans now constitute nearly 1 million of the total 2.3 million incarcerated population
African Americans are incarcerated at nearly six times the rate of whites

Contributing Factors
"Get tough on crime" and "war on drugs" policies
Mandatory minimum sentencing, especially disparities in sentencing for crack and powder cocaine possession
"Three Strikes"/habitual offender policies
Zero Tolerance policies as a result of perceived problems of school violence; adverse affect on black children.
http://www.naacp.org/pages/criminal-justice-fact-sheet


Ms. Clinton, an older, white, multi-millionaire said the solution to the economic injustice against Blacks is...

CORPORATE TAX BREAKS AND PROFIT SHARING
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/hillary-clinton-propose-incentives-corporate-100002119.html

Seriously. She said that.

So, all you need is a job at a profitable corporation. Like Goldman Sachs or JP Morgan.

Ok, perhaps now you can see that Hillary Clinton's ideas for helping the Black community aren't helping, they are hurting.

There is a middle class civil rights leader whose career has been spent not being a multi-multi-millionaire, or Walmart director, or Wall Street lobbyist at $250,000 a pop, not advocating sending jobs to Asia, but as someone who advocated for civil rights for over 40 years.

Not only that - this person believes sending jobs from the US to low wage workers in Asia harms non-rich people as evidenced by the devastation in Black communities around the country.

Bernie Sanders has an estimated net worth of $429,004 in 2010.
http://www.opensecrets.org/pfds/summary.php?CID=N00000528&year=2010

Here's what Sanders is proposing to support the Black community:

– Invest in our crumbling infrastructure with a major program to create jobs by rebuilding roads, bridges, water systems, waste water plants, airports, railroads and schools.

– Transform energy systems away from fossil fuels to create jobs while beginning to reverse global warming and make the planet habitable for future generations.

– Develop new economic models to support workers in the United States instead of giving tax breaks to corporations which ship jobs to low-wage countries overseas.

– Make it easier for workers to join unions and bargain for higher wages and benefits.

– Raise the federal minimum wage from $7.25 an hour so no one who works 40 hours a week will live in poverty.

– Provide equal pay for women workers who now make 78 percent of what male counterparts make.

– Reform trade policies that have shuttered more than 60,000 factories and cost more than 4.9 million decent-paying manufacturing jobs.

– Make college affordable and provide affordable child care to restore America’s competitive edge compared to other nations.

– Break up big banks. The six largest banks now have assets equivalent to 61 percent of our gross domestic product, over $9.8 trillion. They underwrite more than half the mortgages in the country and issue more than two-thirds of all credit cards.

– Join the rest of the industrialized world with a Medicare-for-all health care system that provides better care at less cost.

– Expand Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid and nutrition programs.

– Reform the tax code based on wage earners’ ability to pay and eliminate loopholes that let profitable corporations stash profits overseas and pay no U.S. federal income taxes.


“If we are going to address the issue of crime in low-income areas and in African-American communities, it might be a good idea that instead of putting military style equipment into police departments in those areas, we start investing in jobs for the young people there who desperately need them,” Sanders said.
http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/senate/215648-sanders-ferguson-shows-need-for-black-unemployment-bill

By BLM's words and actions, it seems like there is obvious confusion between these two people:

- Bernie Sanders, a humble, civil rights leader pushing for jobs

- Hillary Clinton, a Wall Street promoter and millionaire who pushed for-profit prisons.


I'm obligated to point this out to you.

Thank you for your time and here is more reading for your interest:

The Clinton dynasty’s horrific legacy: How “tough-on-crime” politics built the world’s largest prison system
http://www.salon.com/2015/04/13/the_clinton_dynastys_horrific_legacy_how_tough_on_crime_politics_built_the_worlds_largest_prison/

Why Hillary Clinton Lacks Credibility On Criminal Justice Reform
http://www.forbes.com/sites/jacobsullum/2015/04/30/why-hillary-clinton-lacks-credibility-on-criminal-justice-reform/
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I think they probably know a lot of this. I don't think this is helpful mmonk Jul 2015 #1
I do think it is helpful, I don't buy the "hands off" approach and the more I am learning whereisjustice Jul 2015 #3
They may have been helped by them (almost positive they were). But many may not be in the mmonk Jul 2015 #5
Yes, there is. However, the idea that Sanders and O'Malley whereisjustice Jul 2015 #8
I do too but do you really think everyone who has gathered mmonk Jul 2015 #10
there are two things that any reasonable person would have done in this event: whereisjustice Jul 2015 #16
Hillary is not remotely interested in anything but her political career. mmonk Jul 2015 #18
Exactly. nt snagglepuss Jul 2015 #7
I think you need to post this in GD:primaries. Cleita Jul 2015 #2
*sniff sniff*... SidDithers Jul 2015 #4
Good stuff there.... no doubt about it. However....... Smarmie Doofus Jul 2015 #6
lol - it's the onion right? whereisjustice Jul 2015 #9
Justice... I wish it were. You don't know HOW MUCH I wish it were. Smarmie Doofus Jul 2015 #14
No worry, no sarcasm thingy needed. I really ldid laugh out loud at the "taking names" meme whereisjustice Jul 2015 #17
Because you think the people in BLM are too dumb to discover this themselves? pnwmom Jul 2015 #11
Do you think I am too dumb to recognize someone changing the subject? whereisjustice Jul 2015 #15
Are you aware that as Mayor of Baltimore, O'Malley pushed through a zero-tolerance on crime pnwmom Jul 2015 #20
Check all the correct answers LittleBlue Jul 2015 #12
You forgot D. Demented Social Security recipients HereSince1628 Jul 2015 #19
you (and the article you posted) appear to have conflated her statement on repeat offenders bigtree Jul 2015 #13
Hillary is 67, born 10/26/47. Falsely stating her age won't make Bernie any younger. n/t pnwmom Jul 2015 #21
Locking. Sorry, but threads relating to the Democratic primaries are excluded petronius Jul 2015 #22
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