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69. That's what those 'ropes' are for.

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Mon Jul 20, 2015, 04:47 PM

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Robert Reich on the Netroots Nation event [View all] kentuck Jul 2015 OP

Yep. Red Knight Jul 2015 #1

That obligation falls on both sides of the divide we mean to avoid. Betty Karlson Jul 2015 #27

I agree with the sentiment of your idea, but Admiral Loinpresser Jul 2015 #99

I am not a PoC, but I do happen to be gay. Betty Karlson Jul 2015 #110

Thank you for your genteel approach Admiral Loinpresser Jul 2015 #119

Then maybe you too can teach me a thing or two. Betty Karlson Jul 2015 #128

You have a valid point. Admiral Loinpresser Jul 2015 #132

Well, we can all do our little part. Betty Karlson Jul 2015 #134

It's hard for Black people to understand what is obvious to white progressives: that JDPriestly Jul 2015 #43

What black people understand, that white progressives don't get is psychmommy Jul 2015 #50

I appreciate your answer. JDPriestly Jul 2015 #83

I agree that your issues are important and your comment about your merrily Jul 2015 #114

It's hard for Black people to understand what is obvious to white progressives DonCoquixote Jul 2015 #60

You may be surprised, but I agree with virtually all you say. JDPriestly Jul 2015 #85

So you basically think that every black person, because of their skin color CreekDog Jul 2015 #138

"It's hard for Black people to understand what is obvious to white progressives: that Starry Messenger Jul 2015 #63

Amen!!... The effects of racism should be mitigated. uponit7771 Jul 2015 #92

I have a white friend. Two of her (white) children have been convicted of drug offenses. JDPriestly Jul 2015 #108

Prop 47 in CA Starry Messenger Jul 2015 #131

ARE YOU FOR REAL WITH THE TITLE OF YOUR POST? Are you actually saying black people don't . . . brush Jul 2015 #129

Wait, you think black people don't understand the interrelationships of race and class? LeftyMom Jul 2015 #133

It's hard for women to understand what is obvious to male progressives. Gormy Cuss Jul 2015 #137

yep again daybranch Jul 2015 #65

Divide-and-conquer is the name of the game... polichick Jul 2015 #2

Yep, socialist is another divisve word they'll use a lot. lark Jul 2015 #13

We support DEMOCRATIC socialists! cascadiance Jul 2015 #18

I have no issue with Democratic Socialist, lark Jul 2015 #22

I think we are witnessing this "socialism is bad" meme starting to die like Limbaugh's show is... cascadiance Jul 2015 #40

Bank on it, lark. You are spot-on. calimary Jul 2015 #139

Yet some are STILL too blind to see hifiguy Jul 2015 #31

I don't think you can put the cart before the horse... Little Star Jul 2015 #3

But the killers of those black youths are supported by the riches of the PTB. The two issues are jwirr Jul 2015 #25

I think you may have it backwards. OrwellwasRight Jul 2015 #70

He or she is saying you can't work a job if you've been shot at age 12 for brandishing a toy gun or merrily Jul 2015 #125

I get that. OrwellwasRight Jul 2015 #142

Fixing the economy is irrelevant to people who are dead. merrily Jul 2015 #144

Once again: racism doesn't exist in a vacuum. OrwellwasRight Aug 2015 #153

Don't presume.nt merrily Aug 2015 #154

You either. OrwellwasRight Aug 2015 #155

Agree. I also agree that being economically secure and black does not mean you won't suffer merrily Jul 2015 #118

K & R. Great post, Reich says it so well. In his conclusion Bernie also emphasized for appalachiablue Jul 2015 #4

OT--what is an "undocumented American"? TwilightGardener Jul 2015 #5

Less offensive version of "illegal immigrant" (nt) jeff47 Jul 2015 #15

I've never seen that term used before. Usually it's undocumented immigrant. TwilightGardener Jul 2015 #21

According to Trump Plucketeer Jul 2015 #19

Yeahup.... daleanime Jul 2015 #33

Kentuck: It needs a link....! KoKo Jul 2015 #6

+10 ~nt~ 99th_Monkey Jul 2015 #11

Sorry. kentuck Jul 2015 #16

Thanks for link! 1,732 people gave it a Like! KoKo Jul 2015 #23

Doesn't the "divide"/"split" come when one group ignores/belittles ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2015 #7

Always right.... Stellar Jul 2015 #14

Where did he say it was? zipplewrath Jul 2015 #20

Have you not seen the "BLM=divivise/wedge issue" threads? ... If not ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2015 #41

Cross thread attribution? zipplewrath Jul 2015 #47

If the divide... MellowDem Jul 2015 #38

You would think so "the solution is just to focus on that issue more until people are satisfied." stevenleser Jul 2015 #52

The fact the other candidate get a free pass on all these issues AgingAmerican Jul 2015 #53

Who has gotten a free pass? O'Malley was also confronted. I am sure at her next open conference stevenleser Jul 2015 #54

Hillary gets a free pass AgingAmerican Jul 2015 #56

No, she isn't getting a free pass. But keep dismissing BLM. Everything is about protecting Bernie stevenleser Jul 2015 #58

So when was Hillary confronted with these issues? AgingAmerican Jul 2015 #59

LOL. And again. stevenleser Jul 2015 #61

When BLM decide to confront her. Raine1967 Jul 2015 #102

Not bloody likely. Clinton events, like those of Republicans, are very heavily controlled eridani Jul 2015 #112

Hillary will not be confronted. OrwellwasRight Jul 2015 #67

That's what those 'ropes' are for. L0oniX Jul 2015 #69

I bet after this, the Hillary camp will keep an even tighter control her "rallies". progressoid Jul 2015 #73

They're focused on the politics of it all... MellowDem Jul 2015 #55

Part of what fascinates me about all of this is that LGBT activists have met so very much criticism Bluenorthwest Jul 2015 #82

I have defended code pink for this kind of thing in the past. I criticized tea party for disrupting stevenleser Jul 2015 #94

Double standards are in DUs DNA. merrily Jul 2015 #123

Please see my Reply 118 above. merrily Jul 2015 #120

Agreed The Green Manalishi Jul 2015 #136

pretty sure there are few anti-racist black activists who are like "let's not raise taxes on job geek tragedy Jul 2015 #8

No, but there are plenty of poor whites who say that because jeff47 Jul 2015 #17

"Doing both at the same time" apparently means that PoC shut up about structueral Chakab Jul 2015 #26

What part of "at the same time" is so unfathomable to you? jeff47 Jul 2015 #29

Find me any advocates on black issues or issues affecting any other group of PoC who OPPOSE Chakab Jul 2015 #36

Oh yes, here we go. OrwellwasRight Jul 2015 #45

Well don't hold your breath waiting for them to demand Hillary address race. zeemike Jul 2015 #49

Don't worry I won't be holding my breath. OrwellwasRight Jul 2015 #66

She has a history of solving intractable problems? merrily Jul 2015 #130

See 1SBM above, complaining about "economic primacy" DisgustipatedinCA Jul 2015 #107

No ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2015 #44

Doing both at the same time means AgingAmerican Jul 2015 #57

think again shaayecanaan Jul 2015 #51

K&R and... 99th_Monkey Jul 2015 #9

K & R SoapBox Jul 2015 #10

sure will Racism has been the blot on this country since it began, it's original sin. merrily Jul 2015 #122

Does Bernie Sanders and /or O'Malley, Clinton have ANYBODY that's affiliated with the BLM Stellar Jul 2015 #12

Does Hillary have anyone affiliated with BLM on her staff? Yes she has one black woman but I jwirr Jul 2015 #32

LOL ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2015 #46

I'd add two friends of mine, except for one thing DFW Jul 2015 #68

Well. It HAS been noted that some liberals ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2015 #72

I guess. Must be a different crowd from the ones I hang with. DFW Jul 2015 #76

Probably so ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2015 #80

What gave it away? DFW Jul 2015 #97

You are a 1%er ... you don't insult Black DUers ... you support HRc ... take your pick. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2015 #116

In that order: DFW Jul 2015 #126

I've never seen Hillary when she didn't have a black woman at her side. Probably NOT a BLM. Stellar Jul 2015 #74

I agree. jwirr Jul 2015 #77

Politics is a funny business. in 2008, Hillary, who i supported and voted for, was, along with Bill, CentralMass Jul 2015 #106

" tagged with playing the race card during the primary." Stellar Jul 2015 #111

You need Bernie or BLM to find a way to stop cops from killing black folks? DFW Jul 2015 #140

"Tagged with"? Would that be from the candidate of "hardworking people, white people"? n/t eridani Jul 2015 #113

If #BLM really wants, they can see how much they matter under Bush or Walker or Christie or Cruz. Darb Jul 2015 #62

What the heck are you trying to say? Stellar Jul 2015 #79

I think that was the point.. 2banon Jul 2015 #86

Just let Clinton, Sanders and O'Malley ignore them... Stellar Jul 2015 #89

+1, by now all of the campaigns should have sat down with BLM leaders uponit7771 Jul 2015 #93

Lots of African American organizations exist. Maybe, it would be useful to have merrily Jul 2015 #127

Good article. I hope nobody accuses him of "whitesplaining". (nt) Nye Bevan Jul 2015 #24

Agreed. mmonk Jul 2015 #28

The economic stresses of inequality impact marginalized people the hardest. lumberjack_jeff Jul 2015 #30

Republicans are probably already trying to figure out madville Jul 2015 #34

Thom Hartmann is reading this on the air right now. Liberal In Texas Jul 2015 #35

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Jul 2015 #37

honestly it's always worrying to assume that the Dems' "big split" is between social and economic MisterP Jul 2015 #39

Yup nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #42

I think Robert is telling it like it is. kentuck Jul 2015 #48

He's right! d_legendary1 Jul 2015 #64

Police killings of White homeless people ... dougolat Jul 2015 #71

It appears they don't matter as much as some other killings seveneyes Jul 2015 #75

are you seriously whining that black victims of police violence get disproportionate attention geek tragedy Jul 2015 #143

Hardly seveneyes Jul 2015 #145

"it appears they don't matter as much as some other killings." geek tragedy Jul 2015 #146

The ones getting more attention seveneyes Jul 2015 #147

which ones are getting more attention? geek tragedy Jul 2015 #148

google is your friend seveneyes Jul 2015 #149

so you can't name a single murder case that gets more geek tragedy Jul 2015 #150

Exactly right. blackspade Jul 2015 #78

Creating a divided and chaotic Democratic party is a great way to ensure we lose in November 2016. pa28 Jul 2015 #81

The divide is already there Kevin from WI Jul 2015 #87

Unfortunately I think you have it right. The divide has been growing and now it's becoming visible. pa28 Jul 2015 #88

Yes, lose as in end up with Hillary Clinton as president davidpdx Jul 2015 #105

Spot On! 2banon Jul 2015 #84

That wedge has been pushed by DU third-wayers PowerToThePeople Jul 2015 #90

They are desperate. They hate liberals as passionately as Fox nation does Doctor_J Jul 2015 #98

+1 n/t Admiral Loinpresser Jul 2015 #121

M. L. King, Jr was saying EXACTLY THE SAME THING, Damansarajaya Jul 2015 #91

There you go bringing up MLK again . . . . stranger81 Jul 2015 #101

Supposedly now, MLK and Brother Malcolm are off limits- they belong to only certain people Hydra Jul 2015 #104

HAH! good one nt Damansarajaya Jul 2015 #152

no question the issues are intertwined restorefreedom Jul 2015 #95

The disruptors were clearly playing a role in Clinton's campaign Doctor_J Jul 2015 #96

Yes, it's about time we white people stop causing a divide on racial issues and get on board gollygee Jul 2015 #100

"In short, the Republican strategy has been to divide-and-conquer..." villager Jul 2015 #103

Agree completely. cui bono Jul 2015 #109

Kicked and recommended to the Max! Enthusiast Jul 2015 #115

Spot the fuck on madokie Jul 2015 #117

I have argued (and been flamed) for posting this exact same list on DU for weeks... Sancho Jul 2015 #124

^^^^ +100% ^^^^ Cosmic Kitten Jul 2015 #135

dig it subject Jul 2015 #141

K&R The most important election of all our lives. raouldukelives Jul 2015 #151