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ProgressiveProfessor

(22,144 posts)
29. In some ways she was right, but it really made no difference
Thu May 17, 2012, 09:07 PM
May 2012

While we are African Americans, my daughters were raised overseas and were really never exposed to the urban African American culture and norms. They did not even know what the term "diss" meant at the time. That said the three African American female students were known for being somewhere between domineering and bullies and could not deal with another black girl who did not understand things as they saw them. When they jumped her off campus (she was walking home) they had no clue of her background and capabilities which included years of martial arts training. She dropped all three of them, inflicting moderate injuries.

There was an off campus relationship between the GC and at least one of the girls' family. She took at face value the claim that my daughter had beat them horribly over what was supposed to be a minor educational "discussion". Her belief is that someone with that kind of "damage potential" and "lack of cultural understanding" was a risk to other students. She fought for suspension or even expulsion but eventually was told to back off by the district.

The GC had some good points about how the three assailants had lost so much face it would be hard for them to function in school and with their peers. Indeed one never returned to school and the others dropped out later. Their injuries were not all that serious (bruises, broken bones, and a lost weave) but clearly triggered some significant changes in their lives.

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You can't generally physically attack a person for "confronting" you. That's the problem. nt Romulox May 2012 #1
What if he seriously dissed you? ProgressiveProfessor May 2012 #5
Did it rise to the level of a "reasonable apprehension" of physical harm? Then yes. Romulox May 2012 #8
I don't think having your feelings hurt makes something an imminent threat JVS May 2012 #9
My daughters' high school counselor might disagree with you ProgressiveProfessor May 2012 #11
Wow. Just.... Wow. PavePusher May 2012 #20
In some ways she was right, but it really made no difference ProgressiveProfessor May 2012 #29
No hack89 May 2012 #2
"to chase and confront someone in public" is this not stalking? If he had been wearing a police jwirr May 2012 #19
To a layman perhaps. In the eyes of the law it has a very limited and specific meaning. hack89 May 2012 #25
Then this SYG law puts all of us in danger. All we need is an enemy. Fortunately for me Governor jwirr May 2012 #26
No it doesn't hack89 May 2012 #27
an armed person breaking into house ctaylors6 May 2012 #3
That was part of the argument on the PA castle doctrine change. Short answer: Yes. HopeHoops May 2012 #4
One of the key questions will be if Zimmerman committed a crime ProgressiveProfessor May 2012 #6
Not analogous. Breaking and entering is a crime; following and confronting isn't a crime. JVS May 2012 #7
No, and no. slackmaster May 2012 #10
I don't think you get a right to self defense while committing a crime. 4th law of robotics May 2012 #12
If a strange man chases me down the street at night, I'm going to fear for my safety. Nine May 2012 #13
Breaking into a home ctaylors6 May 2012 #14
You're right, those examples are not analogous. Nine May 2012 #16
I was responding ctaylors6 May 2012 #18
Yes, if gz had just been walking behind him but first he followed him in his car and then got out of jwirr May 2012 #21
Sure he can johnnie May 2012 #15
Not originally. Nine May 2012 #17
It's not a problem with SYG, it's a problem with a lazy/corrupt/incompetent... PavePusher May 2012 #22
I may be wrong but before SYG laws I think all self defense claims had to be looked into. I remember jwirr May 2012 #23
Call me cynical, but if you are Latino or African American hifiguy May 2012 #24
It has already been done. provis99 May 2012 #28
If Trayvon had broken into Zimmerman's house, I'd have to defend him... Comrade_McKenzie May 2012 #30
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