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JonLP24

(29,981 posts)
43. When you hear Britain (or US for that matter) at war
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 04:00 AM
Jul 2015

they mean BP at war or some other multinational. Iran popularly elected Parliament kicked out BP then came the 1953 Iranian coup.

We usually have a former bank or oil & gas board of director (often both) as Secretary of Defense though it interests me we have an academic in the field of Nuclear Physics. Never mind spoke to soon, a member of "Government Sachs"

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In 1997, Carter and former CIA Director John M. Deutch co-chaired the Catastrophic Terrorism Study Group which urged greater attention to terrorism. From 1998 to 2000, he was deputy to William J. Perry in the North Korea Policy Review and traveled with him to Pyongyang.[21] In 2001–02, he served on the National Academy of Sciences Committee on Science and Technology for Countering Terrorism, and advised on the creation of the Department of Homeland Security.

Carter was also co-director of the Preventive Defense Project,[38] which designs and promotes security policies aimed at preventing the emergence of major new threats to the US.

Carter had been a longtime member of the Defense Science Board and the Defense Policy Board, the principal advisory bodies to the Secretary of Defense. During the Bush administration, he was also a member of Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice's International Security Advisory Board; co-chair of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee's Policy Advisory Group; a consultant to the Defense Science Board; a member of the National Missile Defense White Team, and a member of the National Academy of Sciences Committee on International Security and Arms Control. He has testified frequently before the armed services, foreign relations, and homeland security committees of both houses of Congress.

In addition to his public service, Carter was a Senior Partner at Global Technology Partners, focused on advising investment firms in technology and defense. He has been a consultant to Goldman Sachs and Mitretek Systems on international affairs and technology matters, and speaks frequently to business and policy audiences.

He was also a member of the Boards of Directors of the MITRE Corporation and Mitretek Systems and the Advisory Boards of MIT Lincoln Laboratory and Draper Laboratory. Carter was also a member of the Aspen Strategy Group, the Council on Foreign Relations, the American Physical Society, the International Institute for Strategic Studies, and the National Committee on U.S.-China Relations. Carter was elected a Fellow of the American Academy of Arts and Sciences.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashton_Carter

What I came across as well as what I stumbled through the Saudi leaks I'm starting to believe "nuclear threats" are "nuclear energy trading threats". Think of TPP

--From the wiki above under his tenure as Secretary of Defense--
The United States is coordinating closely with Saudi Arabia, Sudan, Egypt, Qatar and the other Sunni Arab allies in the Saudi Arabian-led intervention in Yemen against the Shia Houthis and forces loyal to former President Ali Abdullah Saleh,[35] who was deposed in the 2011 Arab Spring uprisings.[36]


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Following the March 2011 Fukushima I nuclear accidents, China, Germany, Switzerland, Israel, Malaysia, Thailand, United Kingdom, and the Philippines are reviewing their nuclear power programs. Indonesia and Vietnam still plan to build nuclear power plants.[4][5][6][7] Thirty-one countries operate nuclear power stations, and there are a considerable number of new reactors being built in China, South Korea, India, and Russia.[8] As of June 2011, countries such as Australia, Austria, Denmark, Greece, Ireland, Latvia, Lichtenstein, Luxembourg, Malta, Portugal, Israel, Malaysia, and Norway have no nuclear power stations and remain opposed to nuclear power.[9][10]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_energy_policy

Instead of Sunni Arab allies I wish they would use Wahhabi allies instead but Saudi Arabia definitely wants in on the nuclear trading game.

I don't know if these are cryptonyms or broken translations such as who is Eritrea?

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Record Office of Ministry of Foreign Affairs 0 - 873872..70
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Secret
HE Rnes the Royal Court and the private secretary to the Custodian of the Two Holy Mosques
I received from the Embassy of the Holy place in Asmara (Eritrea) as stating that there was a meeting in the Sudanese embassy in Asmara based on 433/4/1 1 d annexation of all the Sudanese ambassador in Asmara and Mr. Ali al-Tahir polar Sudanese Consul (beggars intelligence in the embassy), Mr. Yamani's Tomb August political Alhenwn the Popular Front for Democracy and Justice and adviser to Eritrean President for Political Affairs in the framework of Eritrean efforts responsible to ensure Sudan's position in less deterioration of the situation on the Eritrean-Ethiopian border, said Yamani tomb August We are not asking Sudan that weakens his relationship with Ethiopia or to give up his interests with them, but we demand Sudan to play a positive role in alleviating the pressure on Eritrea by America by Ethiopia, the official added Eritrean he can to Sudan would contribute to alleviating the effects of the economic embargo on Eritrea and Sudan is an opportunity at the end of this year to clarify the strategic position of Eritrea, this meeting came the impact of the Sudanese security authorities have recently Batql two senior agricultural crops dealers in Gedaref in Sudan after they bought large amounts of grain in preparation to be sent to Eritrea, in addition to the delay in the coming of the Sudan Petroleum fuels supply to Eritrea, I hope the offer on the High considering Karim For your kind information, and Your Excellency my best
No greetings. ,,,
1
Sauod Alfaisal
Minister of Foreign Affairs
https://wikileaks.org/saudi-cables/doc99891.html

There are numerous cables of Saudi discussing Nuclear trading that I probably didn't save some of the translations but I think this one sums it up from the Saudi embassy in Tokyo

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Tokyo
K
oyal Embassy of Saudi Arabia
Telegram issued
Energy savings from the demand side and the use of nuclear energy safer and solid fuel cleaner and renewable energy cheaper than the supply side. "Challenges 3E + S in Asia and the Middle East will become 3E + S even more important in the supply and demand for energy in Asia and the Middle East. Above all, will play provision / Alhgat energy a key role. In the energy mix, will promote the introduction of both renewable energy and nuclear energy energy security through diversification of energy sources, as well as help protect the evidence through the reduction of solid fuel consumption.

(!) Energy security

It is expected that Enkqd energy self-sufficiency in Asia from 85 to Article
Currently Balmanh to 70-75 in 2035 due to increased demand for energy. Therefore, it will be important to the development of energy produced locally and the diversification of energy sources, and also promote energy conservation to ensure stable power supply in Asia. It is also important to effectively take advantage of abundant coal in Asia, and therefore is required to provide Almottagbmh technologies to reduce the burden of interconnecting coal. And Hmak also an urgent need to ensure a stable supply of oil and van Tabas in Asia. Therefore, it will be important to strengthen ties with resource-rich countries with Tdhuaaa sources of supply. Above all, the steady increase of production in the Middle East will be crucial for energy supplies in Asia. And will increase the importance of Asia to the Middle East as a major destination for the export of oil and the van, the Anakady of North America that are heading towards Taniq self-sufficiency of energy and Europe, where demand for oil and two thousand low growth will be built, so the mutual dependence between Asia and the Middle East Matamq. Moreover, it will be encouraged Almottagbdh energy and nuclear energy use
https://wikileaks.org/saudi-cables/doc52781.html

Sorry to hit you with you all this. Initially I was just going to look through for a recent recap to find out who exactly and how many Secretary of Defense were on the Board of Directors of a Banking or Oil & gas firm (a recent one was both!) but to find out he is a nuclear physicist who is hawkish on Iran in a way that presents them of trying to nuke us or somebody else but given they subsidize an awful lot of industries & government programs & their legitimate transition into using renewable resources to meet their powering needs & all the recent deals to reduce carbon emissions but I have no idea what is going on. I know enough about to economics to know foreign policy is about money and see no reason why to expect differently (particularly with Goldman Sachs looting Libya). Whatever this is I can't tell but this looks to be some tricky 3D chess stuff right here.

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Since about 2001 the term nuclear renaissance has been used to refer to a possible nuclear power industry revival, driven by rising fossil fuel prices and new concerns about meeting greenhouse gas emission limits.[3] However, nuclear electricity generation in 2012 was at its lowest level since 1999,[2] and new reactors under construction in Finland and France, which were meant to lead a nuclear renaissance,[26] have been delayed and are running over-budget.[26][27][28] China has 32 new reactors under construction,[29] and there are also a considerable number of new reactors being built in South Korea, India, and Russia. At the same time, at least 100 older and smaller reactors will "most probably be closed over the next 10-15 years".[8] So the expanding nuclear programs in Asia are balanced by retirements of aging plants and nuclear reactor phase-outs.[30]

In March 2011 the nuclear emergencies at Japan's Fukushima I Nuclear Power Plant and shutdowns at other nuclear facilities raised questions among some commentators over the future of the renaissance.[31][32][33][34][35] Platts has reported that "the crisis at Japan's Fukushima nuclear plants has prompted leading energy-consuming countries to review the safety of their existing reactors and cast doubt on the speed and scale of planned expansions around the world".[36] In 2011 Siemens exited the nuclear power sector following the Fukushima disaster and subsequent changes to German energy policy, and supported the German government's planned energy transition to renewable energy technologies.[37] China, Germany, Switzerland, Israel, Malaysia, Thailand, United Kingdom, Italy[38] and the Philippines have reviewed their nuclear power programs. Indonesia and Vietnam still plan to build nuclear power plants.[4][5][6][7] Countries such as Australia, Austria, Denmark, Greece, Ireland, Latvia, Liechtenstein, Luxembourg, Portugal, Israel, Malaysia, New Zealand, and Norway remain opposed to nuclear power. Following the Fukushima I nuclear accidents, the International Energy Agency halved its estimate of additional nuclear generating capacity built by 2035.[39]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_energy_policy

Sorry, I was looking for some that discussed Germany as I have seen that countries name quite a bit but don't think my document search searches the text or very well of my Microsoft documents. But this is one I'm not quite sure what is saying because the most important word, usually a noun, is dis-configured. I've seen Reagan spelled "President Irhejan" (it was obvious who it was based on the rest of the cable). Anyway, whatever this one is saying or naming interested me and reminded me of TPP. As I go through these I lost track of how often I was of TPP.

Hold on before I get to that one this is more of what I was looking for

Beyond the political regime and the opposition circle as seen in the events of 2009 Angkhabat.
3. Alawaagaft taken by Sheikh Rafsanjani in recent years and on both internal and external that. At the level of the interior rejected Sheikh Rfsnjaia and implicitly Futura Results 1 presidential Atkhabat in 2009 and calling for the release of all political Batay Mahkulain Algod on the background of the events that followed and still insists on his opinion that despite the fact that the regime is seeking to gain leadership repeatedly. Even when he made his opinion in the parliamentary injuries (March 2/2102 m), Rafsanjani said: I wish I could be Ntanj 1 Atkhabat also make exercisers 1 Tdhun their opinions, which interpreted one of Aracbon 1 to politicians discomfort Sheikh Rfsndjaa of some internal policies followed by the system that stewed rejected amendment Qadhun Alatkhabat 0 and at the outer level, tell student Sheikh Rafsanjani Baltnawd with the United States to an American one and said: As we are negotiating with Russia, China and the rest of the European countries, why should not we negotiate 0 p America? And that the positions of Rfsndjaa this caused concerns and fears of the conservative The Hague accepted by the people and secondly stepping up Rfsndjaa regarded in the international arena than embarrass the regime.
4. motionless reformers toward Assapat presidential contest in 2013, as one supporter to visualize the conservatives and after removal of the green opposition leaders from the scene as well as Kahat that emerged between reformists in pro Aoumaardth system that arena may Khalit them fully. But it came
https://wikileaks.org/saudi-cables/doc40195.html


This is the interesting one

Telegraph number: ............................................... ......................... RFM: ...................... View .... Altaakh: .......................... Almerfvat:
Latin America and his father countries participated by twenty-year-old in the bombing of the Israeli embassy in Argentina by Hezbollah process, Ma'aleh predicted that there will be a number of bombings in various places in Thailand be the work of a number of Iranian cells and that the Thai security authorities pursue this matter follow closely and coordinate in this with the US and Israeli intelligence services, also it reported that the influx of Iranians to Thailand intensive Menen three years and especially in recent times and offer of Malaysia and Cambodia are illegal and illegitimate as these two countries to Aatlpon visas from the Iranians to enter it and Altaalveh authorities monitor this matter closely and carefully Shadid, reported that Iran is working to increase the trade balance with Asian countries and that he expects that the Nthom Iran integrating business with intelligence work in this region, making it easier to have a presence hidden hands to hit the target before them, and deny that he Menen year Nthreyaba and security agencies monitor and follow up the cultural center activities Iranian in Bangkok and that the (National Security Council device Thai) has had a crucial role in Rfajy Altaalveh authorities to the request of the Iranian Embassy to establish the University of Mustafa in Bangkok and expressed fear Thai authorities of the Iranian Alnchahd and that if the increase will lead to ignite sedition and increasing violence between Sunnis and the Shab'a, also reported he Menen year 6002 m Mossad is always passing the security and intelligence information to the Thai authorities on a weekly and monthly and deny that he Menen (12) year there was an attempt to blow up the Israeli embassy in Bangkok when he set off a truck loaded with explosives and led by the Iranian people from the mall
https://wikileaks.org/saudi-cables/doc84633.html



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