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AtheistCrusader

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257. I am cordial with the OP, because I read and understood the original post.

Tue Jul 21, 2015, 11:43 AM

Jul 2015

I get the idea.

Nothing belies that claim. I have, and will, alert on any misogynistic language leveled at anyone. I've alerted on fat jokes. I alerted on that 'c--t' 'comedy' sketch on gun control that was loved so much. I alert a lot on shit like that, and I will continue to do so, and I will continue to serve on juries and vote hide with context and explanation when I see it.

I've been quite damn clear about that.

What I will not do, is pretend the sky is falling because one 160 post asshole said something offensive, a jury failed to hide it, and admin/site owner review also failed to spike the user.

The term is offensive, and I do not like it. Yet it is part of American political dialogue, and I can understand when and why it gets used by people willing to employ that language, and I keep the use in context, even though I don't like it.

We can chat till the general election is over about all the shit I don't like, yet can understand when/why other people use it, even if I think it cheapens public discourse.

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On the evolution of language and the "W" word [View all] nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 OP

You shouldn't say it, and you know it. shenmue Jul 2015 #1

You do go and tell Gawker and NOW to stop using it nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #2

Gawker is the new standard? nt geek tragedy Jul 2015 #10

Gawker and Urban Dictionary, apparently. NuclearDem Jul 2015 #15

I hope you are not too shocked when you see it in LA Times, NYT nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #16

so, if someone calls Elizabeth Warren a "stupid whore' we should shrug our shoulders geek tragedy Jul 2015 #18

I expect it nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #21

do a google image search for the word. tell us how women are depicted in the results geek tragedy Jul 2015 #25

Words and their ussage do not evolve at the same speed nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #29

"Words and their ussage do not evolve at the same speed" geek tragedy Jul 2015 #33

Yes, but that is not the context of usage nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #36

getting a new meaning doesn't mean it loses the old one. nt geek tragedy Jul 2015 #37

And exactly where did I say that? nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #41

sure, new meaning doesn't mean primary or mainstream meaning, or that the new geek tragedy Jul 2015 #47

I would not bet on that nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #53

do you not understand the difference between reporting on the use of a word geek tragedy Jul 2015 #59

I understand it nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #62

It means that words stay the same skepticscott Jul 2015 #165

a "stupid whore" would be the wrong usage, the one that should be avoided. Warren Stupidity Jul 2015 #140

But the two words would be descriptive per current usage. nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #143

well, apparently at DU it's okay to call Hillary a straight up "whore" so that nuance geek tragedy Jul 2015 #144

Perhaps this is too hard to understand nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #148

The Vagina Monologues? That stuff maybe was cutting edge geek tragedy Jul 2015 #149

And it is still used nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #150

"Both" is a possibility, too, I think! MADem Jul 2015 #160

I prefer some riff on "corporate bootlicker" myself. hifiguy Jul 2015 #335

There are a few other terms used nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #343

I actually left DU a couple of years ago because I was so sick of the word policing hifiguy Jul 2015 #347

I left a year ago over overt antisemitism nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #349

Glad you came back to tell us how much you hate it at this "cesspool" as you called it. zappaman Jul 2015 #359

Thanks for the watch check nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #360

To Hell with watch checks, did you get your calendar fixed? Brother Buzz Jul 2015 #363

I find your keeping tabs on my posts nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #365

Mine too! zappaman Jul 2015 #370

Good I am glad nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #372

Nadine, Ive known a lot of semi-retired prostitutes, and a few politicians reddread Jul 2015 #380

Some pitty nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #381

Your point is you are trying to defend something that can't be defended William769 Jul 2015 #13

William this might be shocking to you nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #17

Nothing you say is shocking. It's other things, but not shocking. William769 Jul 2015 #19

Whatever dude nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #23

Adding a new use of a word doesn't cancel out the age-old OLD use. George II Jul 2015 #107

You mean like the other Indo European root, for the word KAMA nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #125

True - but in the context and wording of that sentence from Saturday.... George II Jul 2015 #129

I suspect that the term with the word political attached to it nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #131

Actually, "whoring" oneself to the highest bidder is an old use Warpy Jul 2015 #374

If I don't miss my cue it goes back to Shakespeare nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #375

One could make the case that sexist and racist words "internalize" rather than "evolve." ancianita Jul 2015 #185

Actually with the word Nigger, used these days by rappers regularly nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #186

And 'Yes.' ancianita Jul 2015 #195

My god, do you even know a thing about the origin of the word? Serious nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #196

I like the word. I love etymology. I'm an anti-censorship English teacher. Here, given the site's ancianita Jul 2015 #197

Then you are surredenring to the few folks nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #198

I get that and am here to tell you I've never been one of that group. I don't support them, even ancianita Jul 2015 #199

Well I think it is time to push back on that group nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #200

I don't check that group, usually, so thanks for sharing. ancianita Jul 2015 #204

Neither do I, nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #205

Then you might like this site, kentauros Jul 2015 #525

One of my favorite sites nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #533

Nice! Thanks! ancianita Jul 2015 #535

Jury results...... nc4bo Jul 2015 #201

Thanks not surprised it was alerted nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #203

actually I have known some old people using it too hfojvt Jul 2015 #385

You know that is a nice distinction of the language nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #388

or I'll smack your hands with a ruler! snooper2 Jul 2015 #55

Concur with nadin. nt edgineered Jul 2015 #3

Jury was unanimous tomm2thumbs Jul 2015 #4

Thanks I expected this to be alerted nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #5

Oh of course, you can always count on a word jumper Warpy Jul 2015 #178

Well especially since I am speaking of language evolution nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #180

By the way, here is the definition nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #182

Doesn't the word just mean a willingness to do anything for money? craigmatic Jul 2015 #6

Yes, and the finer point nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #7

Then why are people mad at the word? In the 2 most recent cases where I've seen it used it was craigmatic Jul 2015 #8

Because of the sexual context in nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #12

It's a college thing Warpy Jul 2015 #206

I took women's studies in college nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #364

Then there are the HOR submarine engines of WW II... Eleanors38 Jul 2015 #269

See I learn something every day nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #367

Silent Victory, a book by Clay Blair, gives an account of the HOR engines... Eleanors38 Jul 2015 #450

It likely did nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #452

Here a link to a book on this nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #371

Enjoyed the read! Thanks. Eleanors38 Jul 2015 #462

You welcome nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #463

How is using a word meaning "selling oneself for money" to describe "selling oneself for money" NuclearDem Jul 2015 #9

It's semantic shift. Igel Jul 2015 #96

7-0 edbermac Jul 2015 #11

Sadly I expected the alert. nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #14

Even more sadly, I expected the results. misterhighwasted Jul 2015 #27

Given that I am talking of language and how it evolves nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #30

"Word Evolution". Haa. Yup that's about how Fox News would misterhighwasted Jul 2015 #136

I guess it is time to treat you like a child nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #137

The thread shouldn't have been hidden, but... Adrahil Jul 2015 #20

Post removed Post removed Jul 2015 #24

Yeah, apparently not. Silly me. nt Adrahil Jul 2015 #72

And I suppose men too nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #34

The word can be applied to men, but... Adrahil Jul 2015 #74

Ergo why it is losing it's magic nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #80

Except is HASN'T lost it's power. Adrahil Jul 2015 #117

I guess we are still stuck in the original term used nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #120

It's more complicated than that. Igel Jul 2015 #113

And this is why I love me some DU nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #116

If enough people say it is offensive, then there should be no problem with not using it. randome Jul 2015 #22

This word has gone from OH MY GOD, to I hear it often nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #26

No. You should be polite and make your points intelligently. No one said you need to scold anyone. randome Jul 2015 #35

So reality is a strawman nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #39

"You guys" was not me. randome Jul 2015 #44

I love it when folks get personal nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #49

Now there's a strawman if I ever saw one. NuclearDem Jul 2015 #57

Here comes more nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #60

Bravo! MADem Jul 2015 #45

Another we cannot discuss langauge evolution nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #50

Maybe you missed the conversations. We've discussed it. It's a bonehead move to call a woman a MADem Jul 2015 #64

Call me back when you guys don't use this langauge with Republicans nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #66

What is this YOU GUYS shit? I don't know those people!! MADem Jul 2015 #69

Pointing out the hypocrisy nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #73

No you aren't--your goal was to make the casual skimmer think that I wrote that shit, MADem Jul 2015 #93

I am playing no games nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #100

No--I am telling it like it is. nt MADem Jul 2015 #163

Keep playing... because that is what you are doing nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #168

No, what's personal here is your conduct. MADem Jul 2015 #211

Mild personal attack nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #246

You continue to demonstrate that you're unclear on the meaning of the term. nt MADem Jul 2015 #265

Now a version of you are ignorant nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #298

Now you're trying to put words in my mouth--how disruptive! MADem Jul 2015 #300

Keep digging. nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #301

What's "not civil" is making a case for the W word used towards women MADem Jul 2015 #302

So noting that the political press is using nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #304

Yes it is. This isn't a discussion, though. There's only one non-misogynist view on this topic MADem Jul 2015 #306

That is a strange definition nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #307

No, it's not. Calling women whores is wrong. And I have no desire to "amuse" YOU. nt MADem Jul 2015 #308

You insist on not trying to have a conversation nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #309

I am not insisting on anything. Calling women whores IS wrong. No "insisting" needed. MADem Jul 2015 #311

I am talking of a change nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #312

Yes. And I'm the King of England. nt MADem Jul 2015 #313

Nice way to deflect from the discussion nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #315

I am not interested in your literature recommendations. Why would I be? MADem Jul 2015 #325

Ah, you have no interest as to why for the normalization nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #326

I don't hate the language, but I have no respect for those who play cutesy games with it. MADem Jul 2015 #328

Jesus age, you still cannot understand that I am not ok with it nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #330

Yeah, that's why you wrote an OP on it. And you've written hundreds of posts to keep your little MADem Jul 2015 #391

You mean an OP that deals with the fact that WOMEN nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #392

You are excusing/normalizing the use of the word. MADem Jul 2015 #393

Recognizing when things are happening nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #394

No. You are excusing/normalizing use of the word. Fail. MADem Jul 2015 #395

Hmm like CNN nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #396

You aren't the NYT or CNN. You are an anonymous poster on the internet writing bad words for shock MADem Jul 2015 #397

You mean the fact that the stories ran nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #398

It's not "sweet crow" when you rudely refuse to provide the links in the first place. MADem Jul 2015 #402

They are there nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #404

Your links are saying the WORD IS BAD. Your thesis is not that. You argued "evolution" --these MADem Jul 2015 #408

Now progress nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #410

No "progress." You had to delete your ugly, hateful post where you actually figured MADem Jul 2015 #412

Please do point out where I have said it is cool nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #417

That's the thesis of your thread. MADem Jul 2015 #418

Sadly it is not nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #425

That jumble of words just doesn't make any sense at all. MADem Jul 2015 #426

Ah yes, another pushing of buttons attempt and nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #433

You are pushing your own buttons, by repeatedly asking the same question, over and over and over MADem Jul 2015 #440

I did not realize classic british commedy was a nasty video nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #442

And THAT's why you quickly deleted it and offered a halfassed apology wrapped in insults. Yep! MADem Jul 2015 #470

You felt a classic John Cleese tape nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #472

Awww, look at YOU! You called me a LOONY with a bit of "classic comedy" and now--after you MADem Jul 2015 #474

Nah did not call you a loonie, but told you would be able to find the word easily, analogy nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #476

You called me a loony. That's why you deleted the video. MADem Jul 2015 #483

I did apologize nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #485

Tammy told you all about your "apology." MADem Jul 2015 #487

That is her interpretation, she is free to it nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #488

No one is trying to "read your mind." Paranoid, much? She summarized your very words. MADem Jul 2015 #495

When you tell me I did not apologize when I did nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #497

Anyone can read your words, you know--unless you want to delete THAT post, too! MADem Jul 2015 #507

And people can read your constant nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #508

Only they aren't "personal attacks." But there you go, "mischaracterizing" yet again. MADem Jul 2015 #509

So a tape was considered offensive by you nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #510

! Kali Jul 2015 #511

Ain't it, just! MADem Jul 2015 #513

I know you cannot recognize it nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #516

I recognize "it" just fine. MADem Jul 2015 #517

Well I truly feel sorry for you at this point nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #518

Isn't that special. MADem Jul 2015 #519

Yup it is nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #521

Ah, more insults! Fix yourself before you give advice, there! MADem Jul 2015 #522

If you feel that is an insult nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #524

No. MADem Jul 2015 #530

Was Sgt Jay Polk there? zappaman Jul 2015 #526

Adorable nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #527

Especially when it comes with a lecture about how to use language zappaman Jul 2015 #514

I am sorry you feel that is a lecture, but trust me, that is your issue nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #523

I am sorry this is funny to you nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #520

Yes, you should use google to figure out what Monty Python is! zappaman Jul 2015 #444

Nope, it is a fact nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #445

Since you like language... zappaman Jul 2015 #446

recomendation nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #448

At least spell it right if you are going to lecture. zappaman Jul 2015 #449

ah predictable nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #453

No, what's predictable is you lecturing on language and zappaman Jul 2015 #456

How cute nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #458

Adorable even! zappaman Jul 2015 #459

. nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #461

Here your normalization nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #414

One more thing, telling people their sourced views nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #399

Below, not bellow. And you are anonymous to me, and you didn't provide links to prove your claims. MADem Jul 2015 #400

Yup, and people are seeing I am calling you out nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #401

You don't apparently know what "bully" means either. You are shopping serious errors of fact. MADem Jul 2015 #403

This message was self-deleted by its author nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #405

Now you're calling me a LOONY for pointing out that you made up that stuff about those MADem Jul 2015 #406

Nope, I am telling you nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #407

You called me a loony and that's a direct personal insult. Further, you didn't tell the truth about MADem Jul 2015 #409

And I apologized and removed it nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #411

You apologized? More like you realized you stepped way the fuck over the line, as you do. nt MADem Jul 2015 #413

Look if you cannot accept an apology nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #415

Yup. zappaman Jul 2015 #416

This isn't an apology tammywammy Jul 2015 #420

Thank you so much for that succinct deconstruction! You held the mirror up beautifully. nt MADem Jul 2015 #423

Trust me neither of you is Michelle Foucault nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #432

Yesk yes it is nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #430

What exact part of your apology "validates the feelings of others"? tammywammy Jul 2015 #434

Thanks, I expected it nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #436

tilt. nt. dionysus Jul 2015 #529

come down from the cross, we could use the wood for something useful. dionysus Jul 2015 #528

This thread. randome Jul 2015 #51

Before the train left the station, too! MADem Jul 2015 #52

The wreck may have started inside the station but it concluded outside Brother Buzz Jul 2015 #172

A for effort. AtheistCrusader Jul 2015 #176

Well some here have done their best to derail it, that's abundantly clear! nt haikugal Jul 2015 #421

The word you are looking for is "its," no apostrophe. Gormy Cuss Jul 2015 #40

That is fine with me nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #43

The overloaded meaning of the word "whore" is a FEATURE, not a bug. JoePhilly Jul 2015 #75

Read 76 Joe nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #81

Outrage brigade? Please--you just stuck your foot in it. MADem Jul 2015 #28

It's the same o same o here on DU. William769 Jul 2015 #32

Never seen anything like it here--this is crazytime. MADem Jul 2015 #38

You nailed it! William769 Jul 2015 #42

Yes, outrage brigade nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #54

"You welcome?" Thought you were a writer! MADem Jul 2015 #68

None of you is going ever on ignore nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #70

That's not ME, either. Give it up!!! MADem Jul 2015 #82

If the site is not going to use those words nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #83

You are CALLING OUT individual DUers who are not participating in this thread with those links. MADem Jul 2015 #94

I am pointing out the language has been used nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #101

No--you're naming and shaming DUers who aren't even here to defend themselves. MADem Jul 2015 #158

So now pointing out that these words are liberally used nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #159

You found a few examples from WAAAAAY back in DU2--and you're calling that "liberally used?" MADem Jul 2015 #161

Hillary supporters seemed to find ONE case of a 160-post-count newbie using the word in the OP and AtheistCrusader Jul 2015 #164

And I'm sure if Mrs. Sanders were called that vile word from a "160 post count newbie" the MADem Jul 2015 #166

I expect the term to be used with him too nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #169

You'll be the one using it, then--I don't think anyone who doesn't support him as their first choice MADem Jul 2015 #171

Why would I use it? nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #174

Because YOU are in the minority here, CHAMPIONING the use of the word. MADem Jul 2015 #210

You should re-read that OP carefully nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #241

Jane Sanders isn't, to my knowledge, a politician. AtheistCrusader Jul 2015 #170

She wrote MRS... I missed that nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #177

That's because you don't read. MADem Jul 2015 #215

Public Figure != Politician. AtheistCrusader Jul 2015 #218

If you really do "cringe" at it, then why are you endorsing the use of it in this thread? MADem Jul 2015 #221

Let me stop you right at your bullshit subject line. Nowhere have I "endorsed it". Try again. AtheistCrusader Jul 2015 #224

It's not bullshit--everyone can read what you've written here--your words endorse--you don't have MADem Jul 2015 #226

I said I would ban. I said I alerted. (I did) If you can't understand that, then yes, let this AtheistCrusader Jul 2015 #232

Nice personal attack nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #242

I'm supposed to know your personal history? MADem Jul 2015 #248

Well one starts by not telling people nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #258

When you don't -- clearly -- read the words on the post, that is not an untoward inference to make. MADem Jul 2015 #261

Yet you did it with me. AtheistCrusader Jul 2015 #262

You are the person affecting a dislike for a word while cheerleading a thesis that takes the MADem Jul 2015 #266

I didn't cheerlead the thesis. AtheistCrusader Jul 2015 #268

You're running more interference for it than a championship defensive line. MADem Jul 2015 #270

Wow, pro football must be super easy then. AtheistCrusader Jul 2015 #273

I don't understand why you came to this thread. MADem Jul 2015 #275

Keep at it nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #286

Why? You seem to be doing JUST FINE all on your own. nt MADem Jul 2015 #287

You are doing just fine nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #290

Too bad you can't rec your own thread more than once, eh? MADem Jul 2015 #292

Do proceed nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #294

Go ahead and alert on it--I am simply pointing out that you rec your own thread-- MADem Jul 2015 #295

Please continue nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #297

No. Not blown. She's a woman in VERY public life--not a private citizen. MADem Jul 2015 #212

I missed the part where Public Person and Politician became interchangeable terms. AtheistCrusader Jul 2015 #217

Your parsing at this stage borders on ABSURD. MADem Jul 2015 #225

No, you seem determined to energetically misunderstand everything I say. AtheistCrusader Jul 2015 #228

I don't "seem" to be doing anything of the sort. Look, your words speak for you. MADem Jul 2015 #230

No, 'My Words' don't speak for me anymore after you've regurgitated them back through your misunders AtheistCrusader Jul 2015 #233

I expect people to go to the source -- so give that "regurgitated" nonsense a rest. MADem Jul 2015 #253

Odd you don't know why, since I've stated it plainly. AtheistCrusader Jul 2015 #259

Perhaps since I was looking for the examples for the first time nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #167

You keep calling out DUERS who aren't participating in the conversation. MADem Jul 2015 #213

That seems like a bullshit argument. AtheistCrusader Jul 2015 #219

The term is NOT commonly used at DU. MADem Jul 2015 #220

I see plenty of it using the simple search built into DU. AtheistCrusader Jul 2015 #222

It's not "plenty" in recent years. Even the thread starter had to use the MADem Jul 2015 #227

I did not have to use the wayback machine. AtheistCrusader Jul 2015 #234

It was DU 's way back machine nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #235

You didn't say that, though--did you? Of course you didn't. MADem Jul 2015 #250

Since I wrote DU way back machine. nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #252

Yup nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #236

Personally I would have banned that user with a 'lurk more' message, but i'm not going to make a AtheistCrusader Jul 2015 #237

And they are nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #239

!!! "Here's another pro tip: .... Understand this--I don't give a shit." dionysus Jul 2015 #531

What you call 'nasty', I call 'context'. AtheistCrusader Jul 2015 #147

So, you approve of calling out DUers for words they said years ago, when they aren't MADem Jul 2015 #157

If it's relevant. Sure. AtheistCrusader Jul 2015 #162

Totally uninterested in spelunking your post history--that's Nadin's forte. MADem Jul 2015 #214

Years ago? How about weeks ago? AtheistCrusader Jul 2015 #238

You are not "all for changing the discourse." Your words in this thread belie that assertion. MADem Jul 2015 #251

I am cordial with the OP, because I read and understood the original post. AtheistCrusader Jul 2015 #257

Sure--whatever you say. MADem Jul 2015 #264

You assume too much. AtheistCrusader Jul 2015 #267

All I can say is this--you appear, to me, to be playing both sides of the street. MADem Jul 2015 #274

Technically I am. AtheistCrusader Jul 2015 #278

Your vigorous defense of the OP ensures that the word will survive here at DU MADem Jul 2015 #279

Bullshit. AtheistCrusader Jul 2015 #282

You don't give yourself enough credit, there. MADem Jul 2015 #284

I disagree but AtheistCrusader Jul 2015 #285

I imagine if one is compelled to use it... LanternWaste Jul 2015 #31

So let me ask you also, nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #46

Oh, snap! MADem Jul 2015 #48

Indeed. n/t JTFrog Jul 2015 #223

Obviously NOW is a rightwing, anti-feminist, group that wants to insult women. K&R Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2015 #56

Good one nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #58

The Huckleberry Finn defense. Lovely. NuclearDem Jul 2015 #61

Yep. And, it's true here too. Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2015 #67

Whoosh. NuclearDem Jul 2015 #86

Well if you are going to be consistent nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #89

I don't use that word, even for people I don't like. NuclearDem Jul 2015 #98

Will you call people here who do? nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #99

I do, and I have. NuclearDem Jul 2015 #103

I will pay attention and complement you when I see it nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #104

Nobody's telling you to stop doing your job. NuclearDem Jul 2015 #108

Actually it was quite implied nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #111

Is the predominate use of the allusion to the cross NuclearDem Jul 2015 #118

As I said, I will not stop you nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #122

People have explained to you why "whore" is offensive. NuclearDem Jul 2015 #123

It is, and I also explained to you a "semantic shift" nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #124

"this is a term you do not understand." NuclearDem Jul 2015 #126

please proceed and do have a last word nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #127

Look up the word "context". It might help you. Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2015 #95

I do, because I know where the word comes from and what it means. NuclearDem Jul 2015 #102

Good for you. Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2015 #109

Sad that your standards of what's socially acceptable or not are locked centuries in the past. NuclearDem Jul 2015 #115

Do you think that other writers, modern writers, avoid the evil word? Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2015 #139

Oh steinbeck and Hemingway are so last century nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #141

I've read Steinbeck and Hemingway. I learned much from Steinbeck and Hemingway. randome Jul 2015 #151

Why the need for the personal attack? nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #152

Not an attack. You presume to lecture the world on proper writing. randome Jul 2015 #153

But you are engaging in a nasty personal attack nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #155

I share your view. Basic spelling and grammar are not optional elements of even marginal writing. nt MADem Jul 2015 #229

Ah yes, another personal attack nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #317

That's not a personal attack. That is an accurate observation. MADem Jul 2015 #324

I know exactly what it means nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #327

Oh really? You don't say! MADem Jul 2015 #329

Yup, you are funny nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #331

Oh really? You don't say! MADem Jul 2015 #332

Please do continue nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #334

If you insist.... MADem Jul 2015 #340

I do, I do, by all means nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #344

OK. MADem Jul 2015 #351

. nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #352

OK. MADem Jul 2015 #353

. nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #354

- MADem Jul 2015 #355

. nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #357

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I know that is what you wish nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #368

. MADem Jul 2015 #377

That's good news, glad to see that troll gone. n/t tammywammy Jul 2015 #373

Skinner came through for us. MADem Jul 2015 #376

Ok, but I am not directing the word at women nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #379

. MADem Jul 2015 #386

Yes, and nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #387

you bullying, personal attacker, you... dionysus Jul 2015 #532

I don't care how anyone else has used it in the past. JoePhilly Jul 2015 #63

I am just pointing out that it is being used nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #65

The overloaded meaning of the word is a FEATURE, not a bug. JoePhilly Jul 2015 #71

Sadly I am not talking about HRC nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #76

I'm not referring to your use of the term. JoePhilly Jul 2015 #84

Well I am sure somebody will use that term nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #85

You are playing with the abstract notion of the word. I'm not. JoePhilly Jul 2015 #90

I am referring to the here and now actually nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #97

I doubt we'll see rank antisemitism against Sanders here on DU ... JoePhilly Jul 2015 #105

As soon as it makes it's undeniable appearance I am gone... not a threat, a promise. nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #106

I'm purchasing the book on your recommendation, thanks! nt haikugal Jul 2015 #504

All this outrage seems to me making sadoldgirl Jul 2015 #77

Thanks I started going to the DU wayback machine nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #78

+1 PassingFair Jul 2015 #184

There is no question in my view that the meaning of "W" changed after George W Bush was president still_one Jul 2015 #79

But the word 'santorum' originated by intelligent design. randome Jul 2015 #88

Yes, and it is only 5000 years old still_one Jul 2015 #92

The Stuff Of Thought olddots Jul 2015 #87

Thanks for the reading recomendation nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #91

It's a "DU debate" Prism Jul 2015 #110

I do not consider DU serious activism nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #114

There are some gems Prism Jul 2015 #119

Humans are funnny creatures nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #121

logically Earth would have a universal language olddots Jul 2015 #112

Languages are disapearing faster than ever before in human history nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #128

Misogyny is especially useful BainsBane Jul 2015 #130

I am sure it will come as a shock to the former CIA director that nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #132

I guess because mercuryblues Jul 2015 #133

I guess you are into personal attacks instead of noticing that three of the people nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #134

I don't understand mercuryblues Jul 2015 #135

Nah what you are incapable of understanding is that the magical word nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #138

Well gee mercuryblues Jul 2015 #145

Because it's just more from Bull Shit Mountain. misterhighwasted Jul 2015 #146

"Word Evolutionists" would not be insulted by this, but rather it would become a misterhighwasted Jul 2015 #142

... ancianita Jul 2015 #202

How is this nadin's "umpteenth op supporting calling women whores"? Links please. kath Jul 2015 #190

It is not nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #194

reasons mercuryblues Jul 2015 #271

FAIL. You said this is nadin's "umpteenth op supporting calling women whore". NONE of your links are kath Jul 2015 #281

you fail at comprehension mercuryblues Jul 2015 #288

NO. of all the links, that is one of the very few (if not the only one)that was actually an*OP*, kath Jul 2015 #310

I read your two links nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #314

lol mercuryblues Jul 2015 #322

You can speak nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #323

oh yes, her defense of the word c**t tammywammy Jul 2015 #333

Not a shocker. zappaman Jul 2015 #337

And while it was never meant as an insult and I apoloogized to her nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #338

Ahh yes, the ol' "I didn't mean to insult her" excuse. tammywammy Jul 2015 #345

You know most adults do take apologies when offered nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #346

For some, when people question or correct you, it's "bullying". zappaman Jul 2015 #369

Well since it was not meant that way nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #378

the perrennial victim mercuryblues Jul 2015 #422

Wrong, the victim who is now finding the bullies rip roaring hilarious nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #468

Personally I am not surprised they nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #296

I suspect... quickesst Jul 2015 #154

I am just making an observation nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #156

like I said... quickesst Jul 2015 #173

Well I expect the clutch their pearls brigade to continue to fight a losing battle nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #175

I thought... quickesst Jul 2015 #187

Using that word would require you--if you weren't trying to "secret snark" -- to have confidence MADem Jul 2015 #272

Yes quickesst Jul 2015 #289

I agree with your "water it down" assessment and share your opinion. MADem Jul 2015 #291

Ha quickesst Jul 2015 #299

so a person who used the term got the reaction of Kali Jul 2015 #471

Given that now people use it nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #475

um... Kali Jul 2015 #479

You do know the word goes back 15,000 years nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #481

for a writer, historian, reporter, mega-expert at everything, and gigantic intellect Kali Jul 2015 #484

And how predictably you go personal nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #486

Don't forget the "n word"! zappaman Jul 2015 #489

You do know that African American Rappers nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #490

You're gonna lecture us about rap now?!?! zappaman Jul 2015 #491

Nobody is lecturing you, except of course in your imagination nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #492

yeah, I see she is now an expert on rap and Black culture too. Kali Jul 2015 #493

A few. zappaman Jul 2015 #494

I see that you two are in a fine series of personal attacks nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #498

Thanks for the lecture! zappaman Jul 2015 #179

Thanks for the kick nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #181

Post removed Post removed Jul 2015 #188

Ah yes, we can use the words to insult nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #189

Pffffftttt.... Little Star Jul 2015 #191

How mature nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #192

that hide kind of proves nadin wrong treestar Jul 2015 #207

Nadin wrong? zappaman Jul 2015 #208

Yeah, and she "didn't alert," either! MADem Jul 2015 #216

I know you will not believe it nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #243

You are correct, I don't believe it. nt MADem Jul 2015 #245

Of course you don't nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #247

That's right. Based on your posting history, I've come to a conclusion. And you surmised it MADem Jul 2015 #249

GO on nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #254

There's nothing more to say. Go re-read what I wrote, if you didn't get it the first time. nt MADem Jul 2015 #276

I don't need to continue. The point was made, and clearly, too. MADem Jul 2015 #280

YOu really are into attacking people nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #316

Oh, look--a "personal attack." nt MADem Jul 2015 #389

. nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #390

Sorta. That hide is a personal attack. Gormy Cuss Jul 2015 #240

When I authored this OP nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #244

well it is but nadin is arguing the word is not that bad treestar Jul 2015 #336

And I did not alert nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #339

nadin don't do "wrong" Kali Jul 2015 #496

Except that I did not alert nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #505

Context...it's not what you think it is. haikugal Jul 2015 #512

. Capt. Obvious Jul 2015 #193

National Organization For Women. Brickbat Jul 2015 #183

Easy peachy! zappaman Jul 2015 #209

Language evolutions are always 100 percent valid, I guess... Brickbat Jul 2015 #231

Language evolves whether you like it or not nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #382

My comment was a snarky reference to your error, which I found ironic. Brickbat Jul 2015 #383

Well we at least seem to agree on something nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #384

I look forward to the day when I hear words that offend me Blue_Adept Jul 2015 #255

Absolutely nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #256

I was never a heavy poster from back in the day Blue_Adept Jul 2015 #263

This is partly the result of hyper partisanship nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #293

What refreshing remarks...thank you! haikugal Jul 2015 #515

The 'w' word? Wanker, wally, whore? truebrit71 Jul 2015 #260

"Willy" hifiguy Jul 2015 #341

They are few, they are proud nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #356

ever notice that calling someone a prick olddots Jul 2015 #277

Yeah I have nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #319

I can't be too offended unless ericson00 Jul 2015 #283

Which is part of the semanitic shift nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #318

That's because you are sensible. hifiguy Jul 2015 #342

For me the W word has evolved to mean this bad four letter word kydo Jul 2015 #303

Well there is that one too nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #305

I remember when the W word was in reference of Bush. . B Calm Jul 2015 #320

Yeah but these days, becuase of a small group of folks nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #321

Political correctness sometimes goes way too far. It can get so bad B Calm Jul 2015 #361

Yes nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #362

Does this mean I can't call Scott Walker or Chris Christie "Koch Whores"? backscatter712 Jul 2015 #348

According to the langauge police nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #350

you are making an analogy treestar Jul 2015 #358

This reminds me of Capt. Kirk arguing for war in front of the Organians. randome Jul 2015 #419

Perfect. zappaman Jul 2015 #424

in before the self-delete! Kali Jul 2015 #427

Why should I do that? To please the same group nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #428

why do you usually do it? Kali Jul 2015 #429

What? Try to have an actual adult discussion? nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #431

Bonus points for telling us how much you hate DU again! zappaman Jul 2015 #435

I am glad you enjoy it nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #437

I do! zappaman Jul 2015 #438

I am glad you do nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #439

uh this subthread was about your potential self-delete, Kali Jul 2015 #441

Nah, it is just a few nattering nanies that I find disagreable nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #443

nanies? Kali Jul 2015 #447

Perhaps you should not avoid the not so hot posts nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #451

I am sure you think that makes sense, Kali Jul 2015 #464

Guess you don't know the language! zappaman Jul 2015 #465

. nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #467

Why do you insist on asking a question? nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #466

*sigh* Kali Jul 2015 #477

Should I point to other folks self deleting threads? Are you going to go harrass them too? nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #478

You don't hate? zappaman Jul 2015 #454

Nope I don't hate nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #455

Yes, because saying you don't care if DUers you have on ignore die... zappaman Jul 2015 #457

Still laughing at you nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #460

Laughing about DUers dying? zappaman Jul 2015 #469

Nah specifically laughing AT YOU nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #473

I don't think DUers dying is a laughing matter. zappaman Jul 2015 #480

Since I am laughing at YOU nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #482

LOL! Funny! Texasgal Jul 2015 #500

I did? nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #502

You are the bully. Texasgal Jul 2015 #503

Yup you are correct nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #506

oh no! Kali Jul 2015 #534

Hysteria is a great example of word evolution. It once refereed to a condition that affected women Agnosticsherbet Jul 2015 #499

That is an excellent example nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #501