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8. No it's the left banging on the left, yet again

Reply to Erich Bloodaxe BSN (Reply #3)

Tue Jul 21, 2015, 04:05 PM

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Some things never change. We're a self defeating bunch of nitwits [View all] Armstead Jul 2015 OP

Sad but true. senseandsensibility Jul 2015 #1

Well we might be busy doing several things el_bryanto Jul 2015 #2

Passionate debate is one thing Armstead Jul 2015 #5

The racism pot is boiling over.... kentuck Jul 2015 #22

Hi Kentuck Armstead Jul 2015 #32

Good to see you kentuck Jul 2015 #57

This wasn't 'the exploiters exploiting us all'. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2015 #3

No it's the left banging on the left, yet again Armstead Jul 2015 #8

BS heaven05 Jul 2015 #64

This message was self-deleted by its author CANDO Jul 2015 #99

I have to say, I don't want to fucking wait for some candidate to come up with a plan Autumn Jul 2015 #118

Bernie can do it. He's in Congress right now. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2015 #119

I don't know about that? kentuck Jul 2015 #120

True, and you also have to take into account that if it did get to the floor Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2015 #121

I don't get why we have to wait for legislation no fucking way the pukes will let anything pass. Autumn Jul 2015 #122

Sure. Do it. I'm not against any of the things you're saying. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2015 #123

I have no power to tell the DOJ what to do. I agree on the need for legislation but Autumn Jul 2015 #125

I worded that poorly. I was indicating agreement that things need to be done now, in addition to Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2015 #126

Well, you gotta admit, it's a very clevery ruse. Atman Jul 2015 #4

I'm not talking about playing nicey nice to the racists on the right Armstead Jul 2015 #6

Well I think you are right. zeemike Jul 2015 #68

Yes, there are exploiters out there trying to divide. But there always will be. mmonk Jul 2015 #7

But we don't need to play into their hands Armstead Jul 2015 #10

I agree. Just do the right thing and don't let anyone take you off your message mmonk Jul 2015 #18

+1 n/t Triana Jul 2015 #9

I sort of agree but I'm with the People's Front of Judea. foo_bar Jul 2015 #11

Economic Justice and Social Justice should go hand in hand Armstead Jul 2015 #15

The principle of equality for all has been a sacred creed of progressives... kentuck Jul 2015 #36

oh boy, here it is again heaven05 Jul 2015 #69

+1000 sheshe2 Jul 2015 #76

thanks heaven05 Jul 2015 #80

Here it is again Armstead Jul 2015 #78

MLK???? heaven05 Jul 2015 #82

Whatever. Armstead Jul 2015 #85

I agree. MLK was "connecting the dots" among deutsey Jul 2015 #128

Perfect Phrase....We need more "dot connecting" Armstead Jul 2015 #135

Wow. You have cut to the bone of the matter. Tommymac Jul 2015 #129

Specifically.. kentuck Jul 2015 #87

I have explained heaven05 Jul 2015 #89

I read your recent posts... kentuck Jul 2015 #100

I don't think when it comes to POC heaven05 Jul 2015 #111

In that case... kentuck Jul 2015 #112

What a great point! calimary Jul 2015 #149

true and infected anew. Seems antibiotic resistant. heaven05 Jul 2015 #151

I hate to say it... kentuck Jul 2015 #154

You're gonna catch shit from people for this. Ignore them. Scootaloo Jul 2015 #108

",,,appeared only immediately after Bernie Sanders declared his candidacy...." navarth Jul 2015 #138

Splitter! geardaddy Jul 2015 #61

For my own part, I'm not concerned with sustaining the "American Dream." Maedhros Jul 2015 #73

Not all Progressives are heaven05 Jul 2015 #93

whenever contrasting the old production-oriented, MIC-run postwar economy of Fordism and Ike MisterP Jul 2015 #162

and as long as white people pretend that economic disparity is the same thing as racial disparity La Lioness Priyanka Jul 2015 #12

I don't think its pretending that at all Armstead Jul 2015 #16

i guess you missed a lot of the threads this morning. my point is merely dismissing racism La Lioness Priyanka Jul 2015 #19

My little tirade took those into account too Armstead Jul 2015 #21

again, my original point stands, dismissing and belittling the impact of racism on black people La Lioness Priyanka Jul 2015 #23

and you are engaging in what I am talking about Armstead Jul 2015 #30

that's false equivalency. blame is not shared all around. some people have had to pay La Lioness Priyanka Jul 2015 #31

I don't disagree Armstead Jul 2015 #35

again, just because income inequality is your priority, dismissing other people's priorities La Lioness Priyanka Jul 2015 #40

Okay there is NOTHING as important as race. NOTHING. No otehr issue matters. Armstead Jul 2015 #41

it's exactly this attitude, and this dismissiveness and condescension that causes the rifts La Lioness Priyanka Jul 2015 #42

Exactly. nt betsuni Jul 2015 #46

Yep you're right. Armstead Jul 2015 #47

Okay, so once the impact of racism on black people has been acknowledged by white progressives.. frylock Jul 2015 #53

are you serious? you can't think of policies a presidential candidate can champion La Lioness Priyanka Jul 2015 #55

A presidential candidate? How about a sitting President with keen insight into what black people.. frylock Jul 2015 #59

+1 historylovr Jul 2015 #75

+2 hifiguy Jul 2015 #81

+3 nashville_brook Jul 2015 #88

+4 840high Jul 2015 #90

I would also like to know. WorseBeforeBetter Jul 2015 #98

plus 5 wilsonbooks Jul 2015 #106

Because the POTUS is from the monied power structure dreamnightwind Jul 2015 #109

Yep. Money is low priority, but those with the money are immune from criticism about race. Nailed it GoneFishin Jul 2015 #116

a very good point, the impact of racism must be faced and discussed for as long as it takes Sunlei Jul 2015 #58

They are not the same. blackspade Jul 2015 #20

while they are intertwined, doing one doesn't necisssate the other La Lioness Priyanka Jul 2015 #24

What do you think a president should do to end racial disparity? JDPriestly Jul 2015 #25

this is like asking what a president can do about income inequality La Lioness Priyanka Jul 2015 #27

There' a significnt difference there. hifiguy Jul 2015 #84

Not all laws affecting race are local La Lioness Priyanka Jul 2015 #130

I agree with you but individual PDs hifiguy Jul 2015 #134

This is not about sanders or clinton La Lioness Priyanka Jul 2015 #136

I asked the question because I can see how a president can, through his appointments, JDPriestly Jul 2015 #94

what can we point to in the Obama administration that a candidate can build on? nashville_brook Jul 2015 #95

Agreed La Lioness Priyanka Jul 2015 #131

Racism on the left is worse in many ways than racism on the right. hunter Jul 2015 #63

YES!!!!! La Lioness Priyanka Jul 2015 #165

Alert Results irisblue Jul 2015 #72

the alerter is way dramatic. La Lioness Priyanka Jul 2015 #164

and wrong as well irisblue Jul 2015 #166

yeah that too, but it's one thing to be wrong, it's another to be dramatically wrong. La Lioness Priyanka Jul 2015 #167

The Results are in! sheshe2 Jul 2015 #74

0-7 to LEAVE IT! poor little alert squad.. :( couldn't handle what she had to say.. :( Cha Jul 2015 #79

lol. how is this naked bigotry? La Lioness Priyanka Jul 2015 #163

+1000 heaven05 Jul 2015 #83

I don't see how posts on a discussion board are the equal of eating our young... LanternWaste Jul 2015 #13

I agree with that actually. Armstead Jul 2015 #17

isn't complaining about trendy t-shirt cynicism itself a form of trendy t-shirt cynicism? Warren DeMontague Jul 2015 #28

And isn;t complaining about comp,laining about...etc? Armstead Jul 2015 #48

Yes- but as George Washington once said, "hypocrisy is the consistency of small internet hobgoblins" Warren DeMontague Jul 2015 #50

Yep, and I see the same screen names over and over and over that are doing the enflaming. hamsterjill Jul 2015 #14

ridiculous flamefests? Warren DeMontague Jul 2015 #26

And on top of this the teaparty morons in the House just voted to give tax breaks randys1 Jul 2015 #29

I wouldn;t say doomed -- But we're definetly allowing things to get worse Armstead Jul 2015 #38

As if anything here has any import outside this ingrown cyber bubble uhnope Jul 2015 #33

Enh, it's a reflection. Armstead Jul 2015 #37

Not of the debate at large uhnope Jul 2015 #45

Well the debate at large is who is going to win the next Final Four, or... Armstead Jul 2015 #49

Well... Dr Hobbitstein Jul 2015 #141

Yeah, white people should absolutely join with people of color so that we aren't gollygee Jul 2015 #34

Speak for yourself. japple Jul 2015 #39

Yep. And who do you suppose it was that bought the racism nonsense to DU? Zorra Jul 2015 #43

Zorra, shhhhh. hifiguy Jul 2015 #62

So true. I came to DU Sunday evening hoping to read recaps of Sunday morning shows blm Jul 2015 #44

The other side only needs to poke and prod us a wee bit before we turn on each other villager Jul 2015 #51

except in this case it is most definitely not the other side. it is people on our side La Lioness Priyanka Jul 2015 #52

urgency and legitimacy of issues was never the problem; which targets we aim at usually is villager Jul 2015 #56

Yes and my contention is that we do this La Lioness Priyanka Jul 2015 #132

If we take an "Eyes on the Prize" approach, what's the best strategy to get to where we want to be? villager Jul 2015 #142

No one expects democrats or government overall La Lioness Priyanka Jul 2015 #143

Right. And hopefully they will be more adamant with those powerful factions who ignore them even villager Jul 2015 #145

Myself... I know it is an emergency nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #70

You also bring up a good point about timelines, Nadin. We don't know, ultimately, how this will play villager Jul 2015 #144

I was scouring the nets nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #147

Again, this may have been our side obliging them with tactical choices, muffed responses, etc. villager Jul 2015 #148

I agree in the grand scheme of things nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #152

You're absolutely right, Nadin. We need that "grand coalition" if we're have even the remotest villager Jul 2015 #153

Exactly nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #155

What we need is to get the 1%ers at each other's throats villager Jul 2015 #156

That would be nice nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #157

Why wouldn't they use it. It works. It's hard to trace back to the source. And for right wingers it GoneFishin Jul 2015 #117

You don't even need heavy-handed overt "secret police" tactics when the reform faction so willingly villager Jul 2015 #146

For the present I should like merely to understand how it happens that so many men, jtuck004 Jul 2015 #54

Excellent post...I very much enjoyed reading it Oilwellian Jul 2015 #102

It's best printed and read in blocks - they probably had an easier time concentrating in 1550. <G>. jtuck004 Jul 2015 #104

I don't like the bickering but I do see a 'teachable moment' in it. lovemydog Jul 2015 #60

Agree with all of that, and there is entertainment value in debate too Armstead Jul 2015 #77

Very much agree with you lovemydog Jul 2015 #86

I gotta admit, this is why I find the streets nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #65

ive made my case angrychair Jul 2015 #66

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Nice to see you, too. Iggo Jul 2015 #67

Amen!!! n/t Oldtimeralso Jul 2015 #71

This message was self-deleted by its author Corruption Inc Jul 2015 #91

I suppose racism isn't an issue with you.... Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2015 #92

Oh I'm so glad you had the sarcasm thingy there Armstead Jul 2015 #96

Aren't those adrenalin surges a rush? Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2015 #97

This is actually a very interesting "fight" on DU Hydra Jul 2015 #101

I also took a break. glinda Jul 2015 #103

K&R awoke_in_2003 Jul 2015 #105

it will pass Scootaloo Jul 2015 #107

I love posts like this! Orrex Jul 2015 #110

No, it's not that DU sucks....It's just that certain things about DU (and the left) suck Armstead Jul 2015 #124

This is what it sounds like artislife Jul 2015 #113

Slightly over the top. Fearless Jul 2015 #114

It's a fucking mess. There's no getting past the defensiveness. The right wing has won. We're are GoneFishin Jul 2015 #115

I tried to say that yesterday, but you said it much better. CanonRay Jul 2015 #127

It's just a few loud voices, we are not divided, just being targeted with garbage sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #133

You got it. And far from doing nothing. raouldukelives Jul 2015 #137

American history has shown that when white people dominate social movements YoungDemCA Jul 2015 #139

You're making a lot of assumptions there Armstead Jul 2015 #140

I still think it was a good thing that I voted for Barack Obama... kentuck Jul 2015 #150

K&R X 1,000 You hit this nail right on the head. Divide and Conquer rides again! PatrickforO Jul 2015 #158

Ha! Go read some GOP sites if you want REAL dysfunction!! Trump leading? 7962 Jul 2015 #159

That's what gives me comfort...They're as f'd up as we are Armstead Jul 2015 #160

And here we all go again. WHEN CRABS ROAR Jul 2015 #161