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xmas74

(30,054 posts)
95. Actually, you do teach them not to melt down.
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 05:24 PM
Jul 2015

How do you do this? It's not hard. I was a single mother and I took my child nearly everywhere with me. If I wanted to go out to eat, she went with me. If I wanted to go to a movie, she went with me. She learned how to act in public at a very young age.

So, how is it done? When you take a young child out to eat you do the following things:

1) Bring something to keep them occupied. Not a loud toy or anything of that nature but a coloring book, maybe a plush toy or even a story book to read together.

2) Interact with the child. Point things out on the menu to them, ask them what they want to eat (even if they won't tell you or can't quite say it yet), talk about the table or the wall paper or anything. Just interact with them.

3) When you place the order ask how long it will take. If the server says there are a number of customers ahead of you consider leaving. Tell the server that you'd love to stay but don't think you're child can wait that long and tell them that you'll be back another time when it's not so busy or without your child. It's not a big deal but please do it before the order is placed.

If you know there will be a wait and you decide to stay:
-Always bring a snack before you ever leave the house. I always had packs of raisins in my purse or snack crackers.
-Ask the server if they have fruit, saltines or even dry cereal on hand that can be brought out with your drinks, in case you've forgotten your snack.
-Don't sit the entire time, waiting for the order. Get up with the little one and walk around, stretch your legs. As long as you stay out of the staff's way this isn't a problem at most places.
-Keep interacting with the child. Show interest.
-For pity's sake, when the food is delivered immediately attend to the child. Get that pancake cut up and ready for the little one to snack on. The adults can wait another minute, little one has waited far too long.
-Finally, if little one starts crying it's time to go outside. Take them out to walk around outdoors, if possible. As you're walking out the door let a server know that you'll be back in a few minutes to finish up. If it takes more than five minutes to calm down pop back in the door long enough to tell a server that you'll be leaving and you'd appreciate it if your meal could be packed up to go.

Over time the kids learn how to act in public places and it's not such a big deal. I left a restaurant once with my child-just once. She knew why we left. The next time we went back she did well and never had a problem. She was two years old. It's not a bad thing to teach a child how to act in public and the sooner they learn it easier it is for everyone around them.

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Ms Carson, mother of the child, is not a very good parent if she knowingly ordered a slow dish. Shrike47 Jul 2015 #1
Except pancakes aren't a slow dish. pnwmom Jul 2015 #27
If she was the only customer maybe yeoman6987 Jul 2015 #76
I read enough of the diner owner's comments to not trust anything she says. n/t pnwmom Jul 2015 #80
I'll Keep that in mind yeoman6987 Jul 2015 #84
I've worked the grill in a diner Nac Mac Feegle Jul 2015 #70
Three 12 inch pancakes?!?!? That is an ENORMOUS amount of food! Coventina Jul 2015 #2
Right, even ditch diggers would have trouble putting that away. Warpy Jul 2015 #132
a pancake should take less than 5 minutes to cook. something else going on here nt msongs Jul 2015 #3
I can order grits down here Aerows Jul 2015 #5
Some might consider grits to be child abuse. Buns_of_Fire Jul 2015 #38
Wait! Wut? nt Are_grits_groceries Jul 2015 #41
Oops. 'Scuse me. Buns_of_Fire Jul 2015 #44
Oh hey!!!!! Creamy grits with butter and black pepper and maybe a little cheese - oh my. djean111 Jul 2015 #87
Exactly. n/t pnwmom Jul 2015 #28
these were 12 inches JI7 Jul 2015 #36
Have you ever cooked pancakes before? Ms. Toad Jul 2015 #112
Yeah, 75 other breakfast eaters also in that diner. Do you think their order should have been put Bluenorthwest Jul 2015 #42
Regular pancakes, yes. xmas74 Jul 2015 #91
Not likely, with this menu. Ms. Toad Jul 2015 #115
That's what I figured. xmas74 Jul 2015 #133
3 12" pancakes for a 2-year old?! cvoogt Jul 2015 #4
Maybe the pancakes are extra fluffy and she was going to use them to soundproof the little tike. Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2015 #40
sound-dampening pancakes cvoogt Jul 2015 #125
This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Jul 2015 #6
I'm gonna go out on a limb here, and speculate you don't have much experience with 2 year olds. Warren DeMontague Jul 2015 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Jul 2015 #12
They should have removed the kid from the diner, absolutely. Warren DeMontague Jul 2015 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Jul 2015 #19
Fair enough. Sorry, I get a little defensive when it sounds like people talk about the need to Warren DeMontague Jul 2015 #21
This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Jul 2015 #25
Not exactly true for everyone ann--- Jul 2015 #34
And they often grow up calling another two year old as such also... LanternWaste Jul 2015 #67
Everyone is wrong here except for the kid but the kid is the one who had a stranger yell at her CBGLuthier Jul 2015 #7
No the 'special snowflake' is a 'brat', obviously the 2 YR OLD hasnt been disciplined enough Warren DeMontague Jul 2015 #11
Forty minutes is also too long for any kid to be crying in public. Paka Jul 2015 #13
I believe I implied the parents were at fault also but if you think that is how CBGLuthier Jul 2015 #15
I agree with you. Warren DeMontague Jul 2015 #16
When my kid was young and threw a fit anywhere in public and we couldn't calm her down, we left. killbotfactory Jul 2015 #23
Right there with you. Warren DeMontague Jul 2015 #24
You are so right! dem in texas Jul 2015 #52
I agree with you completely that children should be treated with respect. Paka Jul 2015 #30
40 minutes is way to long to have to wait for an order of 3 pancakes. pnwmom Jul 2015 #29
It says the parents didn't help her eat tammywammy Jul 2015 #111
Agree with you. The parents did not give a darn for the other patrons. Paper Roses Jul 2015 #104
it didn't take 40 minutes to make the pancakes. the parents didn't help her eat them. nt magical thyme Jul 2015 #39
If a kid was crying for 40 minutes, then the parents needed to take said child outside bigwillq Jul 2015 #8
Good for the owner. zappaman Jul 2015 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Jul 2015 #17
I can't speak for Maine, so, scratch that. Warren DeMontague Jul 2015 #18
Lol. zappaman Jul 2015 #20
Well, I can speak for Maine Gormy Cuss Jul 2015 #92
It would appear that the Washington Post agrees with you. Warren DeMontague Jul 2015 #143
If the screen caps I've seen are true, she referred to the child as a 'retard' on Gormy Cuss Jul 2015 #146
Agree. Warren DeMontague Jul 2015 #149
I was born in Massachusetts and spent my first 16 years there... Miles Archer Jul 2015 #137
The owner should have LiberalElite Jul 2015 #22
Yes, she should have asked them to leave. murielm99 Jul 2015 #26
She asked them to leave more than once Go Vols Jul 2015 #61
Well perhaps the worker was ok in this yeoman6987 Jul 2015 #78
Then I think she should have called the cops - LiberalElite Jul 2015 #109
Imagine how she would have been vilified for that! "Cops called on sobbing 2 year old" Coventina Jul 2015 #116
That headline would be twisting the facts too nt LiberalElite Jul 2015 #117
I think it more than likely it would be spun that way. If only to get people to read or click on Coventina Jul 2015 #118
Yup. I've clicked on a couple of unrelated stories today and then LiberalElite Jul 2015 #119
That's pretty extreme. Paka Jul 2015 #127
IMO the owner had no right to yell at someone else's kid nt LiberalElite Jul 2015 #135
Lotsa blame to go around here. Arkansas Granny Jul 2015 #31
Yeah, and your advice is great for "Children", not so much babies and toddlers. A 2 yr. old Warren DeMontague Jul 2015 #33
I did not criticize the child. It was the adults in the situation who were responsible. Arkansas Granny Jul 2015 #37
I disagree. I think expecting a 2 yo not to melt down under certain circumstances isnt realistic. Warren DeMontague Jul 2015 #46
I agree that the parents fucked up in this situation, as did the restaurant owner who yelled at the Arkansas Granny Jul 2015 #53
If you're going to lecture me about parenting, be prepared for me to lecture you back. Warren DeMontague Jul 2015 #55
You keep tossing James Dobson's name out there. He's talking about punishment, which is not what Arkansas Granny Jul 2015 #63
Yeah, whatever. You don't "teach" a 2 year old not to melt down. It's their wiring. Warren DeMontague Jul 2015 #69
I'm kind of amazed by adults who..... CajunBlazer Jul 2015 #81
Thanks for your opinion. Warren DeMontague Jul 2015 #82
Actually, no... CajunBlazer Jul 2015 #88
Well, welcome to DU. Warren DeMontague Jul 2015 #89
Thank you CajunBlazer, Paka Jul 2015 #129
Actually, you do teach them not to melt down. xmas74 Jul 2015 #95
Thank you. That is exactly what I was talking about. Arkansas Granny Jul 2015 #97
Yeah, I get that all the time, too. Warren DeMontague Jul 2015 #100
The servers would always compliment my daughter, xmas74 Jul 2015 #101
The parents in this situation handled it badly, we agree on that. Warren DeMontague Jul 2015 #98
Do you only have one child? gollygee Jul 2015 #113
You take the kid outside until he clams down. Travis_0004 Jul 2015 #126
Which is exactly what I've been saying throughout this thread. Warren DeMontague Jul 2015 #130
Two years old is an important time to teach a child behavior. Paka Jul 2015 #128
No, dearie ann--- Jul 2015 #32
if we can ban kids from diners can we also ban old people from supermarket checkout lines? Warren DeMontague Jul 2015 #35
Most of the people I see with coupons are young mother types. cwydro Jul 2015 #43
Not me. Warren DeMontague Jul 2015 #47
Are they screaming and crying? kiva Jul 2015 #45
And then she wanted to cash in lottery tickets and buy more..... bettyellen Jul 2015 #48
see, you know what I'm talking about. Warren DeMontague Jul 2015 #49
They don't always have the tell tale sales circular in hand.... bettyellen Jul 2015 #50
The overstuffed manila folder, that's what I watch for. Warren DeMontague Jul 2015 #51
I asses the line for the courtesy counter- are they merely a smoker or is this a gambler who bettyellen Jul 2015 #56
Yes, or the interminable debate about the expired 50 cent coupon Warren DeMontague Jul 2015 #57
Yep. My grocery is literally next door, so I shop small and often. The people there smirk as they bettyellen Jul 2015 #60
Then they write a fucking check! A CHECK in 2015, FFS, like they're Amish or something! PeaceNikki Jul 2015 #66
... Warren DeMontague Jul 2015 #71
and don't take the checkbook out until everything is bagged and of course phylny Jul 2015 #108
And then they write the check for an even dollar amount... Lizzie Poppet Jul 2015 #141
I'm far from Amish, Paka Jul 2015 #131
I hate to be that old lady counting out the pennies for the cashier but sometimes.... CTyankee Jul 2015 #103
Im sure you're fine. Warren DeMontague Jul 2015 #122
I go over my coupons pretty carefully and have them readily at hand... CTyankee Jul 2015 #139
We covered this topic in a parenting class taught by a child psychologist Divernan Jul 2015 #54
the best way to stop a toddler from having a screaming fit notadmblnd Jul 2015 #58
I've been in numerous restaurants where the owner LibDemAlways Jul 2015 #59
She asked them to leave a few times Go Vols Jul 2015 #62
Absolutely agree. Parents were cruel to the patrons AND their kid Nevernose Jul 2015 #72
Agree, there are places that should be baby/toddler free zones. LibDemAlways Jul 2015 #75
DU loves shaming "kid haters" ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jul 2015 #73
In my post that ignited the flame war, I started LibDemAlways Jul 2015 #77
I once had a superball thrown at my head in a restaurant shrike Jul 2015 #106
Oh come on davidpdx Jul 2015 #138
Okay. You wanted to know. shrike Jul 2015 #142
Plus one thing I never thought of is that if he threw it hard enough davidpdx Jul 2015 #145
The child should have been fed. Low blood sugar. Hypoglycemia. Manifestor_of_Light Jul 2015 #64
They're all at fault, in my opinion. BlueStater Jul 2015 #65
Are parents no longer responsible for their small children? CajunBlazer Jul 2015 #68
In general I don't believe in taking children out to eat with you Capt. Obvious Jul 2015 #74
Lol. So true. yeoman6987 Jul 2015 #79
In that scenario the problem isn't the child. It's the lame ass "children's menu" offerings and Guy Whitey Corngood Jul 2015 #83
My daughter and I usually shared one meal. xmas74 Jul 2015 #99
I've seen it done well Retrograde Jul 2015 #110
Sounds like solid advice to me davidpdx Jul 2015 #140
I have a friend whose kids was awful one time at a restaurant. tammywammy Jul 2015 #114
We do that too Capt. Obvious Jul 2015 #136
Well, this is a diner gollygee Jul 2015 #121
Should have taken the kid to Chuckee Cheese. n/t cherokeeprogressive Jul 2015 #123
Then they could have had an outright brawl. roamer65 Jul 2015 #124
You address the parents not the child jberryhill Jul 2015 #85
+1 nt steve2470 Jul 2015 #86
The parents had been addressed several times, to no effect. Coventina Jul 2015 #90
Well now I'm hungry for some pancakes. Kingofalldems Jul 2015 #93
now the media brings us click interviews with, The "SHUT THE FUCK UP" Screamer. Sunlei Jul 2015 #94
Seems to me that all the adults in this particular story Butterbean Jul 2015 #96
Sounds like long waits are a given at this place shrike Jul 2015 #102
They ordered too much food? abelenkpe Jul 2015 #105
When my now 22 yr old was about... 3catwoman3 Jul 2015 #107
Hard to tell which ones were the children without being present. roamer65 Jul 2015 #120
I have eaten in places with unruly kids....screaming, yelling, crying.... chillfactor Jul 2015 #134
Thanks God someone is taking a STAND by SCREAMING at a BABY!! Woo-Hoo!!! Warren DeMontague Jul 2015 #144
I see you're still trying to make your points using potty mouth language CajunBlazer Jul 2015 #147
Yep. Warren DeMontague Jul 2015 #148
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