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sufrommich

(22,871 posts) Wed Jul 22, 2015, 08:13 AM Jul 2015

Dear MSM,stop calling Sandra Blands arrest a "routine traffic stop". [View all]

There was nothing routine about it,she was ticketed for not using her turn signal while moving into a lane.That's not a routine ticket at all,it's done a million times a day with no repercussions from the police.Call it what it was,a trumped up excuse to pull her over,because that's what it was.

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Dear MSM,stop calling Sandra Blands arrest a "routine traffic stop". [View all] sufrommich Jul 2015 OP

There is something very wrong in America when while simply ladjf Jul 2015 #1

Sudden movements (including raising your unarmed hands) ecstatic Jul 2015 #29

If you can, while cop is approaching place wallet and registration on dash. Sit with hands on wheel. ieoeja Jul 2015 #33

NO,NO,NO,NO!!....Do NOT reach into your pocket or glove box for documents!!!! louis-t Jul 2015 #43

Partly OK! Have your registration and insurance card easily accessible. Place on dash with license. TheBlackAdder Jul 2015 #46

You don't want an approaching cop to see you COLGATE4 Jul 2015 #52

They are already expecting something. Finish your collection and minimize movement after contact. TheBlackAdder Jul 2015 #64

That's why I said you should FIRST inform the officer COLGATE4 Jul 2015 #65

That's why you tell him where you are reaching, what you are doing. louis-t Jul 2015 #72

A Standard Police M.O. - She was going to get pulled over regardless. TheBlackAdder Jul 2015 #42

good insight. yurbud Jul 2015 #50

Just put your hands, clasped, on top of the wheel nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #69

Not to mention he whipped his car around once he got a good look at her BEFORE ... Hassin Bin Sober Jul 2015 #2

Yeah, not only whip his car around but he immediately sufrommich Jul 2015 #4

The behavior he engaged in was reprehensible and IMO criminal... kristopher Jul 2015 #14

If suddenly I see a policeman who turned around ahead of me Mira Jul 2015 #16

You would mouth off to a cop? CANDO Jul 2015 #80

Police speed up on cars for the sole purpose of intimidating the driver into making a mistake. nt TheBlackAdder Jul 2015 #48

You are so right. It was not routine. That cop was heading the other way . . . brush Jul 2015 #3

Yup. truebrit71 Jul 2015 #6

By that logic there are no routine stops mythology Jul 2015 #5

But you'd expect to be pulled over for speeding or running a red light kcr Jul 2015 #7

I do know several people who have, in fact, gotten tickets for that precise thing. niyad Jul 2015 #35

Yeah, I should clarify. I don't know anyone who simply got a ticket for that as a matter of course kcr Jul 2015 #59

I was pulled over for that once in Suburban Chicago. Ace Rothstein Jul 2015 #36

And if there is no traffic and it is safe treestar Jul 2015 #8

If you watch the very beginning of the 52 min video... blackspade Jul 2015 #24

He was inappropriate with the first driver as well, IMO ecstatic Jul 2015 #57

+1 Lilith Rising Jul 2015 #60

True though that could also be friendly chat treestar Jul 2015 #74

She was a sophomore. Igel Jul 2015 #76

My hearing isn't good enough to disern her ethnicity. blackspade Jul 2015 #77

Umm- it was a routine stop Lee-Lee Jul 2015 #9

Except his attitude changed immediately on the second stop. Kingofalldems Jul 2015 #45

It was a bs stop and you know it. Kingofalldems Jul 2015 #53

Texas has a new law that went into effect Horse with no Name Jul 2015 #10

it's a fucked up reason to get pulled over but we all signal when we know a cop is nearby because Demonaut Jul 2015 #11

I know if you are a truck driver it would be a routine traffic stop. I can't count how many times B Calm Jul 2015 #12

I know a number of cops... Whiskeytide Jul 2015 #13

It's routine if you have out of state plates. Gidney N Cloyd Jul 2015 #15

That's why there numbers are in the toilet bigdarryl Jul 2015 #17

Follow a cop for 2 minutes. Guarantee you'll see a lane change without signal. AtheistCrusader Jul 2015 #18

They also think it's okay for them to travel at very high speeds in the left lane. Many B Calm Jul 2015 #19

Seriously, I don't know about that state, but here in WA there is no exemption to the speed limit AtheistCrusader Jul 2015 #27

Welcome to Texas maindawg Jul 2015 #20

She was profiled and harrassed. Because she didn't play, "Yes sir, no sir" it escalated. jalan48 Jul 2015 #21

Yep! She knew her rights. brush Jul 2015 #25

Unfortunately, knowing her rights probably got her killed. It's Amerika. jalan48 Jul 2015 #26

Putting out a cigarette is a lawful command when detained for a traffic stop Lee-Lee Jul 2015 #30

Show us evidence of that in legal code. brush Jul 2015 #32

Here is some reading for you Lee-Lee Jul 2015 #38

As was the request to leave the vehicle. Indydem Jul 2015 #40

Tell me where is the part about not violating the 4th Amendment . . . brush Jul 2015 #41

If the cop did nothing wrong, why is he on desk duty? Kingofalldems Jul 2015 #47

Mr policeman, do you signal every time you change lanes? Kingofalldems Jul 2015 #49

I'm not a man, thank you Lee-Lee Jul 2015 #51

kick samsingh Jul 2015 #22

Her arrest should have never happened. blackspade Jul 2015 #23

The cop was a testy unprofessional. Starry Messenger Jul 2015 #28

No one signals in Texas when they change lanes Gothmog Jul 2015 #31

the first thing I put in my alternative driving manual for texas was, "turn signals are optional niyad Jul 2015 #37

It is dangerous to show any weakness on the highway Gothmog Jul 2015 #54

+1 uponit7771 Jul 2015 #75

It fucking drives me crazy. I do, and I expect others to do so. X_Digger Jul 2015 #79

I am a Missouri resident... Moostache Jul 2015 #34

I was stopped for speeding recently Ms. Yertle Jul 2015 #39

What I used to tell my clients all the time. COLGATE4 Jul 2015 #55

I agree with you, BUT MH1 Jul 2015 #58

I understand what you are saying, but one problem I see with it is the inherent reinforcement niyad Jul 2015 #61

No. The idea is that the Supreme Court has made it clear COLGATE4 Jul 2015 #66

wonderful reinforcement of submitting unquestioningly to authority. niyad Jul 2015 #67

So far as I know, the Supreme Court is the law of the land. COLGATE4 Jul 2015 #70

and it is always the peasants who face the consequences of their actions. the jackboots niyad Jul 2015 #78

Highly rhetorical but not really very relevant COLGATE4 Jul 2015 #82

I didn't say "always" Ms. Yertle Jul 2015 #73

Good people can snap sometimes, even when every neuron ecstatic Jul 2015 #63

The cop had to know she was changing lanes to get out of his way. Kingofalldems Jul 2015 #44

Routine for African-Americans malaise Jul 2015 #56

The entire premise of this discussion is way wrong. Glassunion Jul 2015 #62

No, it is not Lurker Deluxe Jul 2015 #68

Cops kill a black person about once every 40 hours. Glassunion Jul 2015 #71

In NYC, not signaling between lanes is a huge no-no Reter Jul 2015 #81