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karynnj

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Wed Jul 22, 2015, 02:12 PM Jul 2015

DU became a powerful forum fighting a bad war, NOW we can fight - and win this time - to avoid one [View all]

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DU grew in the days when people united to fight against the neo cons who led us into a terrible war that this has major ramifications. It is very likely true that in reality, nothing could have prevented that war.

Now, President Obama, working with 5 other countries, has a deal that could prevent Iran from getting a nuclear bomb. Now, in addition to preventing Iran from getting a nuclear bomb, it stops the neo cons who have been agitating for a military strike for years in their tracks. This deal helps the world avoid a war.

That simple truth was expressed in some accounts of the last "talks" among the foreign ministers and top negotiators who got the deal. They got together one last time and went around stating what it meant to them personally. They went in alphabetical order of country name - so Kerry was last.


Afterward, each minister made remarks about the collaboration. Kerry, who spoke last, recalled going off to war as a young man, the traumatic experience of Vietnam, and his commitment, when he returned, to end that war. The diplomacy with Iran, he told his peers, was one time that he could prevent the horrors of war.

At the end of Kerry’s comments, his eyes welled up, his aide said. Others teared up, too, including the Iranians. Then everyone applauded.


( Thanks, MBS) http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2015/07/27/tehrans-promise )


Everybody needs to look at the agreement. There are many things you can watch to understand it - Obama's news conference - http://www.c-span.org/video/?327122-1/president-obama-news-conference-iran-nuclear-deal Obama was on Jon Stewart yesterday - http://www.rollingstone.com/tv/news/watch-jon-stewarts-final-barack-obama-daily-show-interview-20150722 Kerry and the fantastic former MIT professor of nuclear physics, Secretary Moniz were on several talks shows explaining it last Sunday - http://www.democraticunderground.com/11094615

This is the time to call your Senators and representatives - even if you think they are against it or already for it. You KNOW that the other side has ramped up their efforts - and you know what happens if they hear just one side. Also, if your people are doing town halls - GO TO THEM.

Let's give peace a chance!!
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The target is Scott Walker and his like minded idiots Fearless Jul 2015 #1
No, this is more immediate - we need to win over more Senator and Congressmen karynnj Jul 2015 #3
No - the FIGHT is all over, especially in media and lawmakers' offices. blm Jul 2015 #7
The absolute last thing this country needs is another war. Initech Jul 2015 #2
Than work on this now to make it harder for them to initiate a war if the country makes the karynnj Jul 2015 #4
Don't be shy - share that view with other DUers. ; ) blm Jul 2015 #15
Chuckie Schumer's staff in NY & DC offices annabanana Jul 2015 #5
Some have said it is a good sign that Schumer is still quiet on this nt karynnj Jul 2015 #6
That's my girl!!!! blm Jul 2015 #8
: ) good for you. n/t MBS Jul 2015 #12
Do you know where Kirsten stands on this? Agony Jul 2015 #21
I haven't heard any confirmed stance, but, I think she's for it. blm Jul 2015 #22
k&r nt steve2470 Jul 2015 #9
DESERVES MANY KICKS annabanana Jul 2015 #10
kicking…..as long as it takes blm Jul 2015 #11
Detroit tee vee is airing a PAC-type anti-Peace ad saying deal is bad because Iran is a big threat. Octafish Jul 2015 #13
EXACTLY what's at stake. GOP and war profiteers will fight this deal FIERCELY and too many blm Jul 2015 #14
Normally I agree with you, blm. Take the beneficiaries of secret government warmongering... Octafish Jul 2015 #16
Here's what Hans Blix said - this will piss off the BombIran crowd, too. blm Jul 2015 #23
when is kerry going before congress to speak about this ? JI7 Jul 2015 #17
Tomorrow at 10 am - Senate Foreign Relations - I think it's an open session karynnj Jul 2015 #18
Thank You.. mylye2222 Jul 2015 #19
Kicked for visibility! mylye2222 Jul 2015 #20
K&R brer cat Jul 2015 #24
I'm writing to my senators and congressman today MBS Jul 2015 #25
"We can't let the warmongers win." It really is THAT crucial. blm Jul 2015 #27
Another kick.. because (now on CSpan3) annabanana Jul 2015 #26
Schumer and Gillibrand are undecided Agony Jul 2015 #28
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